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Posted by Mitchell Cope (Member # 32) on 05-18-2005, 12:10 PM:
 
I normally don't follow the digital stuff too much, but I thought this article was interesting. Does this measure up to reality over the next 3 years?

USA Today article - "Digital film revolution poised to start rolling"

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Digital film revolution poised to start rolling
By David Lieberman, USA TODAY

NEW YORK — Director George Lucas sure has a vivid imagination.

Science-fiction fans will see one aspect of it this week at theaters showing his latest flick, Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, in which Lucas explains how Darth Vader got to be such a bad guy.

For the film industry, though, the movie is a reminder of what a dreamer Lucas has been about another pet project: digital cinema. A passionate advocate, Lucas predicted in 2001 that by the time Sith was released, thousands of theaters would show it using digital projectors.

The reality? Fewer than 100 of the USA's nearly 36,700 screens show images from digital projectors.

Lucas didn't anticipate how much bickering there'd be over quality and encryption standards — and particularly over who'll pay for all that slick new equipment.

Yet after years of false starts and hype, the digital revolution now is making headway in the last big bastion of analog entertainment: the movie theater.

A consortium of the seven major Hollywood studios is poised to give its final blessing to a set of digital cinema standards. That should clear the way for a host of companies to market hardware and software.

Meanwhile, several studios, banks and digital cinema equipment companies are close to deals to help finance the $3 billion transition from analog to digital.

"There are two or three serious and significant deployment plans that I believe will come together over the next couple months," says Julian Levin, 20th Century Fox executive vice president for digital cinema and non-theatrical sales and distribution. "This is the first year when all the elements are coming together."

"You could see a substantial transition (to digital) begin by the end of 2006," National Association of Theater Owners (NATO) President John Fithian says.

If they're right, it could change everything from the quality and variety of what consumers see at the local Bijou to how Hollywood does business.

"This can be as profound a change in the movie-making experience as color and sound," Titanic director James Cameron told theater owners at an industry convention in March where he and Lucas hawked digital cinema.

Among ways the digital experience differs:

• Images are consistently crisper and cleaner than on today's films. Unlike celluloid, digital pictures don't break, scratch or smudge. And each frame is more evenly lit from edge to edge: There's no bright spot in the middle.

• There'll be more 3-D films (although you'll still need special glasses). A single digital projector can beam images that trick each eye into perceiving depth. With traditional film, theaters need two prints running simultaneously on two projectors.

"We need to maintain the supremacy of the theater over the living room," says Sony Pictures Digital President Yair Landau. "You don't want to be in a position where, as people start getting high-definition televisions, they say, 'This looks as good as what we see in the theater.' "

Lucas, for one, recently said that he'll release remastered 3-D versions of all the Star Wars movies.

• As with DVDs, studios can distribute digital films with soundtracks in multiple languages. Since a movie house would not have the hassle of changing prints for each language, it theoretically could schedule a new blockbuster to play in Spanish at 5 p.m., Japanese at 7 p.m. and then go back to English at 9 p.m.

Also, each audience could see different trailers and ads. Theaters could change programming as easily as one might rearrange play lists on an iPod.

• Digital theaters can show supersized non-movie entertainment including live concerts and major sports events to fill the house in typically slow periods. They can become more attractive venues for corporate presentations, college lectures and religious services.

Champing at the digital bit

Hollywood can't wait to go digital.

Studios look forward to the day when they can slash by 75% the $1.2 billion they spend each year to make film prints and ship them in bulky metal cans to and from theaters. With digital, they transmit encrypted signals to theaters via satellite or ship a small, reusable hard drive with the film preloaded.

In addition to the cost savings, studios and theaters can respond more quickly to audience tastes. When a movie is successful, theater owners can copy the digital file and feed it to multiple projectors. With celluloid, studios must estimate in advance how many prints they'll need. They're often caught short when a movie is a surprise hit and can be overrun with copies of unexpected bombs.

Digital films also will be packed with anti-piracy technology — controlling who can show the film and identifying where unauthorized copies originated — potentially reducing the $3.5 billion that the Motion Picture Association of America estimates Hollywood lost last year to illegal copies.

"Today, there's no mechanism to prevent a film from being played in off hours" to make an illegal copy, says Ahmad Ouri, president of Thomson's Technicolor Digital Cinema.

For more protection, his company is about to roll out technology that embeds in a digital film video signals that are invisible to viewers but that jam camcorders, which pirates often sneak into theaters.

With so much going for digital, why has the transition taken so long?

In part, it's because digital cinema has operated like the Wild West, with different companies pushing rival versions of hardware and software — sometimes with images that purists consider inferior to film.

"Up to now there've been five incompatible compression formats used," Ouri says. "There's been no standard for compression (to shrink the huge size of a digital movie file) or encryption (to deter piracy)."

Standards are needed so all the projectors can show (decompress and decode) movies from any studio. Such compression and encryption standards, for example, let you play a movie DVD on any player.

Now a Hollywood consortium, called Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI), is preparing to endorse a set of standards everyone will be expected to follow.

"DCI is within a month of completing detailed technical specifications," says Fithian. "Most of the difficult issues have been resolved."

For example, it will mandate that the number of lines of resolution in digital movies (essentially a measure of the sharpness of the images) be at least 2,000 — topping the 1,080 in high-definition TVs. It will accept a format promoted by Sony that goes to 4,000.

A tough sell

All of their work will be for naught, though, if theater owners don't install and use digital equipment.

That's been a tough sell.

"A current 35-millimeter film projector costs about $30,000 and lasts 35 years," says NATO head Fithian. "Digital costs upward of $100,000, and I doubt it will last 25 years. You're giving us something akin to the first generation of a cell phone or a laptop."

His organization took a tough negotiating stand in November. It passed a resolution insisting that all of the major studios — the companies expected to benefit most from digital — finance in some way all the costs to buy and install digital cinema equipment for any theater that wants it. In addition, theater owners want the right to decide what models of gear to take and then want to own the equipment when the financing period is up.

What's more, NATO wants studios to guarantee that they'll offer digital versions of their movies to any theater that has a digital projector.

Skittish about financing

The owners are likely to get most of what they want.

"The studios have already said in principle that they will pay" for the equipment, says Bud Mayo, CEO of Access Integrated Technologies, a publicly traded firm that offers software and services to help theaters manage digital films and programming. "But the exhibitors have to have some skin in the game," such as by agreeing to cover maintenance costs for the equipment.

Studios are skittish about discussing how the financing might be arranged. They fear that they'll be accused of antitrust violations if all of the top distributors are perceived to have collaborated on a digital plan.

As a result, several deals are under discussion.

"There is a group of studios led by Disney, Warner Bros. and Sony trying to put together a funding consortium, and we think others will join them," Fithian says.

In each case, the planners expect to create a separate entity that would borrow cash to pay for digital projectors. The entity would own the projectors and let theaters use them, free.

The entity would recoup its cash from the studios. Each would pay a fee, effectively leasing the projector each time it shows one of the studio's digital films.

Executives are eager to get the party started, beginning with a midsize to large market that would convert to digital and test equipment made to the new DCI standards.

After that, "You can get to 15,000 screens in two to three years," says H.C. Wainwright analyst Bill Relyea. "Some people think it'll be faster."

Speed of transition

Mayo, who expects the digital transition to be virtually complete by the end of 2008, is doing his part to move things along.

This month he installed digital projectors for five of the eight screens in a Brooklyn movie house he owns, a former vaudeville palace that headlined stars such as Jimmy Durante, Mae West and Abbott & Costello.

Mayo will use his theater to showcase Access Integrated's software and services. "This is a disruptive technology, and the little guys often win in that market because they're single-minded," he says.

Others are less sure about the pace of transition.

"You're talking about a seven- to eight-year rollout or possibly longer," says Levin.

Studios may not be able to invest heavily on digital projectors. Their costs will probably rise as they have to simultaneously support digital and analog.

In addition, some theater owners may wait on the expectation that digital projectors will be better built or support even higher standards in a few years.

"There's a real chicken and egg to the conversion," says Landau. "You'd like it to move faster, but if not everybody is on board, then it won't be effective."

Fithian says that it's up to the studios to decide on digital's future — and that they'd better move quickly.

"They'll either have their act together this year, or it'll fall apart," he says.

Still up in the air is whether Lucas' fantasy will succumb to the Force, or the farce.


 
Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 05-18-2005, 02:57 PM:
 
Well, I saw my first DLP movie (Hitchikers Guide) this weekend, and was NOT impressed- the screen door effect was painfully obvious. Any time text came on the screen it looked jagged. The effect was the same as on those stupid pre-show video projectors- a lot more subtle but it was definitely there.

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"We need to maintain the supremacy of the theater over the living room," says Sony Pictures Digital President Yair Landau. "You don't want to be in a position where, as people start getting high-definition televisions, they say, 'This looks as good as what we see in the theater.' "
So tell the theaters to STOP building so many small screens that aren't much bigger than a good living-room projection setup, with smaller scope pictures than flat on top of that!!

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"This can be as profound a change in the movie-making experience as color and sound," Titanic director James Cameron told theater owners at an industry convention in March where he and Lucas hawked digital cinema.
Seems more along the lines of the change when porno movies went from film to video [Wink]
 
Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 05-18-2005, 03:53 PM:
 
Been a while since I've seen one of these articles, all full of hype and promises of utopia. Not to mention mistakes, lots of them:

That article is full of nonsense.
That said, I am curious to see what the specs DCI comes up with are like. I hope they will be pushing for 4K.
 
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 05-18-2005, 04:31 PM:
 
Didn't I read this article, first 6 and then 3 years ago?

Putting the Lucas hype machine aside, there is one major issue that none of these articles talk about....CONTROL.

I can't see any exibitor installing digital projection unless they have 100% control of what plays where and when just like they do today with film. This article alludes to one of the anti-piracy measures being that nobody will be able to play a "film" after hours. Well, that implies control by the studios now doesn't it???
 
Posted by Edward Jurich (Member # 1787) on 05-18-2005, 05:10 PM:
 
quote:
Still up in the air is whether Lucas' fantasy will succumb to the Force, or the farce.
[Razz] [Razz] [Razz] [Razz]
 
Posted by Kevin Wale (Member # 1851) on 05-18-2005, 07:15 PM:
 
That's just like bankers giving business advice. They'll advise you to not do something and then loan you the money anyway. lol. Reporters must read about television technology and think that's how the DCinema will work. I guess they think it's more evenly lit because of all those little mirrors or something???

Either that or they really are trying to convince the world that less quality is actually better.
 
Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 05-18-2005, 10:08 PM:
 
I saw a slight Xenon bulb flickering on the DLP movie I saw too, but only because I automatically notice that sort of thing. Appears to be NOTHING different about the light source (Dumb question- can you remove a projector head and use a DLP with the same lamphouse?)
 
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 05-19-2005, 02:27 AM:
 
quote:
• There'll be more 3-D films (although you'll still need special glasses). A single digital projector can beam images that trick each eye into perceiving depth. With traditional film, theaters need two prints running simultaneously on two projectors.

Well, lets see there were those films that had both left and right eye on the same film. Imax even though some have one projection unit they still use two roaters to feed the film through. And what are they going to use the Red and blue anogliphic glasses or will it be polarized and require the need for a silver screen.

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• Digital theaters can show supersized non-movie entertainment including live concerts and major sports events to fill the house in typically slow periods.
Woopie fucking doo. If I want to watch a sporting event I will watch it at home or go to the arena. If I want to see a concert I will travel to an arena where I can take in the whole experience of sound and visual from my own point of view not a bunch of cameras panning all over the place.
 
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 05-19-2005, 04:37 AM:
 
First-generation DLP projectors were mounted on conventional lamphouses. Christie mounted theirs on their own SLC, Barco on the Kinoton SK50, and I believe Strong also mounted the TI-based head on their own lamphouses.
The newer generation of DLP projectors are much smaller and usually an integrated design which can not be mounted on a conventional lamphouse.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-19-2005, 11:04 AM:
 
I wish the 'digital people' would quit harping all over the 'alternative content' thing because it'll never work, for the exact reasons Darryl specified. People want the aural/sensory experience of seeing the concert/ball game/boxing match or whatever in person. The cinema pub places will have a better shot at making it work than traditional theatres will.

But then there's the issue of screen sharing, which may not be a problem for megaplexes, but for anywhere with less than 8 or 10 screens, it could be troublesome. If you're playing Star Wars Episode XXVII or whatever, no "film" company is going to give you that screen on a Saturday night to show a basketball game, even if it is during the playoffs.
 
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 05-19-2005, 01:01 PM:
 
Also to Mike's point, what alternative content is available/viable during "off" time at a theatre? That is the only time it is worth anything. I guess in a very diverse area, you may be able to show world cup soccer at 3AM once every four years and get an audience.
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 05-19-2005, 01:39 PM:
 
The only viable "alternative content" that I could imagine would be corporate events--satellite conferences, product introductions, large-scale meetings, etc. I can see where a large company with employees spread around the world might want to have a way to communicate with them all at once in an efficient manner. In this case, I can see where it would be useful to have a large number of convenient venues for large-screen video projection. It's a limited market, but it probably does exist.

Other than that, I fully expect the whole "alternative content" thing to flop miserably, both due to "screen sharing" issues and due to the fact that no one is going to go out and pay money to watch a concert or sporting event on a big-screen TV.

If [dlp] is going to succeed, however, it will have to do so on the basis of cost savings in film printing and shipping, not because of some "alternative content" pipe dream. Of course, the sticking point is that nearly all of these cost savings would benefit the film distributors, not the exhibitors who would need to install [dlp] equipment.
 
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 05-19-2005, 03:58 PM:
 
When I worked at Hughes Aircraft back in the day we used to rent the auditorium at Redondo Beach High School in order to have our annual "State of the Group" presentations. Even though the room sat several thousand we still had to schedule numerous "shows" and fleets of charter buses in order to accommodate the approx 18,000 employees of the Space & Communications Group. Having a local multiplex handy for such use during business hours back then would have been very useful to us. But how big is the market for such corporate events, especially nowadays? Nowadays at places like PanAmSat they just stream it and let people watch in their cubicles or in small groups in the various conference rooms.

I have to disagree with the consensus regarding sporting events. Before the NFL shut us down, the Super Bowl used to absolutely pack every big-screen hotel/casino venue in this town. Every video projectionist in town and every AV rental house within 500 miles could count on a week's worth of work and video projector rentals at the end of January. In the last couple of years it grew to include any adjoining multiplex screens just to handle the overflow. I'm sure in certain markets, events like the World Series, World Cup, NCAA Finals, NBA Playoffs, the Triple Crown, and any heavyweight title fight would do quite well, especially when marketed and hosted as a party with plenty of food and booze for people that can't get tickets to the actual event.

But maybe 'Vegas is the only place where this would work on a regular basis--legal sports betting here makes these kinds of things extremely popular. D-Cinema gear is still too expensive to justify buying it in order to do this--there just aren't enough of these events in any given market to justify the purchase. For now, event-specific rentals of HDTV-capable gear work just fine.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-19-2005, 05:01 PM:
 
quote: Paul Mayer
a party with plenty of food and booze
What's to stop bars from putting in "digital cinema" units themselves? Just an upgrade from the current wall of crappy TV sets most of them have now.
 
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 05-19-2005, 05:20 PM:
 
My own feeling is digital IS on the way, and soon, maybe 2-3 years. At that time, I think it will ramp up in five years, like digital sound (in 1994 few had digital; by 1999 most had it). Like anything new, there is (and still will be) bickering and fights. But, the DCI seems to have learned from many of the previous false starts. The public wants it, the studios want it, and it seems they are resolving the financing issues. And when the hardware gets old, it will get moved to smaller/ second run theaters. I also feel alternative content will work, it just needs to get to the right price. No one is going to pay $40 for a concert, but I'd pay $15 to see U2 or the Stones rebroadcast live. This is a little like the cyan reader thing: it was put off for so long, people thought it was never going to happen.
 
Posted by Bruce Hansen (Member # 281) on 05-19-2005, 06:31 PM:
 
Same hype, different day.

If you have ever gone to a corporate meeting, you know people are seated at tables, and there is a stage. This is not going to happen at a theater. Most big companies have satellite networks, or at least computer networks, and don't need to bus people to a theater.

If a theater does not show a movie one night, in order to show alternative content, they will be turning away people who came to see that movie, and those people may never come back.

I still question the "cost savings" of digital. The studios may not want to so over satellite, if their scrambling system is broken, they are screwed. High speed land lines may well cost more than making 35MM prints. Shipping hard drives to every screen in the country, not to mention dumping the data onto them in the first place? That's just silly.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-19-2005, 06:45 PM:
 
I think the dream of every DC wonk is to 'beam' the content into the theatre's system a few minutes before the first scheduled showtime from a satellite.
 
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-19-2005, 06:58 PM:
 
quote: Bruce Hansen
Shipping hard drives to every screen in the country, not to mention dumping the data onto them in the first place? That's just silly.


No more "silly" than, say, shipping 7 reels of heavy film to each of the 3600+ screens showing "Star Wars". [evil]

Shipping the feature on a pluggable (and re-usable) hard drive with a cost of maybe $100 doesn't seem silly when compared to printing 25,000+ reels of film (Episode 3: 7 reels x 3600 screens = 25,200 reels of film), at a cost of $2000+ per complete print.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-20-2005, 12:10 AM:
 
But therein lies the problem...

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Shipping the feature on a pluggable (and re-usable) hard drive with a cost of maybe $100 doesn't seem silly when compared to printing 25,000+ reels of film (Episode 3: 7 reels x 3600 screens = 25,200 reels of film), at a cost of $2000+ per complete print.
Just look at the current state of shipping reels we are all dealing with. Now imagine just for a moment what will happen a year down the road when these hard drives containing the new movies start failing. BLAM! Show after show is lost, and pre-screenings become more and more important to look for data glitches.

It would indeed be smarter to send them out on DVD-ROMs and let each theater maintain their own hard drives and be responsible for loading them up. Then the DVDs can simply be tossed in the trash when the engagement is over.
 
Posted by Dominic Espinosa (Member # 2122) on 05-20-2005, 03:47 AM:
 
quote: Brad Miller
It would indeed be smarter to send them out on DVD-ROMs and let each theater maintain their own hard drives and be responsible for loading them up. Then the DVDs can simply be tossed in the trash when the engagement is over.
Or your dvd-wallet because it's only a matter of time before the copy protection is broken.

Who will they blame when HD copies are circulating on the internet and in back streets across the globe?

Moreover, you can't trust a hard disk no matter how old it is.
I've had drives dead within a week and dead within 10 years before.
 
Posted by Ian Bailey (Member # 1752) on 05-20-2005, 07:51 AM:
 
Well I hope all you negative people refuse to take on D-Cinema,3D and Alternative content when it does happen and when it does revive the industry.Maybe you guys can start stockpiling 35mm prints so you will have something to do when the rest of us are moving ahead with the new technology.
It is so easy to be negative.If all you negative guys actually took the time to somehow participate in this transition in a positive way it would probably happen quicker with less teething problems.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-20-2005, 10:06 AM:
 
Here's one solution to hacking of "DVD-ROMs": make theatrical digital "prints" on a different size (bigger) disk than a regular DVD. That would have two advantages: The theatrical disk would look different (i. e. cooler) than the standard consumer disk in the media coverage, and Joe Hacker couldn't just pop it into his computer DVD drive and copy the files.

How come nobody else thinks of these seemingly simple concepts besides us film-techers?
 
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 05-20-2005, 10:19 AM:
 
Minor thread drift, but why not develop compression schemes (both audio and video) for DC which are specifically designed so that when they are captured and recompressed in consumer formats, they no longer play (or look/sound really bad).

I'm sure there must be a way to accomplish this. Maybe not to the point of making the bootleg unwatchable, but at least maybe it can be made to be annoying enough that people won't want to watch.
 
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-20-2005, 11:15 AM:
 
I know all about the failure rate of hard drives. Current drives are pretty robust though, and if packed properly in hardshell cases lined with lots of foam rubber, they could probably take a pretty good beating and still survive. Theater gets a bad drive, hey, they order a new one, just like they order a replacement reel now if one is bad.

Maybe ship using 3 drives in a RAID-5 configuration. Then loss of any 1 drive doesn't stop the show.

Just thinking out loud. The idea that using hard drives, or DVDs, or some other physical media is any sillier than shipping reels of film just hit me as, well, silly. [evil]
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-20-2005, 12:54 PM:
 
The "alternative content" thing has been tried even earlier, with resounding failure. Anyone hear of "RCA Theatre Television"? This was before all of America had TVs in their homes, too. So, not only could audiences see live prize fights or Uncle Milty on the big screen, but the novelty aspect was present and it still failed.
 
Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 05-20-2005, 01:57 PM:
 
RCA theater television also cost $250,000.00 in 1952 dollars. It produced a stunning [Razz] 600 lumen output with a 2 footlambert image on a 15 x 20 foot screen. It was a light weight [Roll Eyes] 2400 pound (1090KG) system....any of today's under $1000.00 4 pound video projectors would blow this away with color at no additional cost. [Cool] I know a retired service tech who first job was to maintain these on rentals in the early 1950's...several hours tweeking for every hour of use. Very few where produced........
 
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 05-20-2005, 06:40 PM:
 
I have a feeling it may come down to networking it into theatres. Most likely using the highest level encryption that may be updated every so often so as to prevent anyone from getting a good hold onto the ability to break the encryption. I doubt it will involve satellite transmission since there are some risks and I am not sure about cost. Probably will involve advanced fiber optic transmission of some sort. There is some new technology that I can't remember what it was called but from what I understand they claim that it will be able to transmit gigabytes of information in a mater of minutes. If that is so that would make transmitting information to a server of some sort at a theatre rather easy to do and maintain. That is pretty much my theory on it.
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-21-2005, 09:24 PM:
 
quote: Richard Fowler
RCA theater television also cost $250,000.00 in 1952 dollars.
That didn't keep people out of the theatres that installed it.
 
Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 05-22-2005, 10:11 AM:
 
The RCA system required a hookup to a coaxial line for programming, no system for program storage or repeat playback. My old tech friend said most of the rentals where pay for view live events.
 
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 05-22-2005, 08:44 PM:
 
If shipping on hard drives is actually productionized, I expect that theatres will copy the entire feature off of the shipping drives onto their production equipment before running the feature. That eliminates the problems of premature failure because of shipping trauma. Shipping on multiple DVDs has got to be a pain in the neck to load.

(And, of course, there are no issues with extra "copies." This stuff is all encrypted...)

I do agree that in the far-future high-speed networking will lead the way, but I doubt we'll be there in 5-10 years.

--jhawk
 
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-22-2005, 08:53 PM:
 
quote: David Stambaugh
Episode 3: 7 reels x 3600 screens = 25,200 reels of film
My math was wrong. It's not 3,600 screens, it's 9,400 screens (3,661 theaters). That's according to boxofficemojo.com. If we figure 100 of those are digital, leaving 9,300 film screens, then it's 7 x 9300 = 65,100 reels of film, not 25,200. [Razz]
 
Posted by Bernie Anderson Jr (Member # 410) on 05-23-2005, 06:03 PM:
 
It seems like every three years I reply to a post like this. Damn Lucas! Didn't they say 6 years ago that by the third starwars there would be thousands of DPs out there. As it is in NJ, I only see 2 star wars being presented in Digital. And they are the same two that did Ep 2. 3 years ago. The first digital that projected Ep 1 in NJ isn't even there anymore. There was actually talk about removing the DLP at Jersey Gardens some time back. From my understanding, Loews will not go for it. It's a bad business model. I have 18 screens and I'm tried of hearing how film degrades over each showing. Come to my theatre and see if that's true. I'm tired of this "if we say it long enough and loud enough, it must be true" propoganda. First of all, a technology that costs a $100,00 + and won't last 25 years? Who's gonna pay for the replacement of the technology when it's out dated in the future? We're not talking about that. This is just about roll out and how to pay for it. They're talking about the theatres paying for up-keep. What's that gonna cost? My theatre is currently replacing the dying DCP 1000 and SDDS 2000 series. We're lucky if I can get two or three new replacement CP 650s a year. At that they're $9,000+. What's the cost of the upkeep of these projectors? On a 35mm, what's the most expensive part? Intermittent, maybe $1,000?

I've been saying for years that the thing that will revolutionize the business will be something in the form of IMAX. Big big screen presentation with a sharpness that can't be compared. Can't get that at home. I think Polar Express showed the possibilties that IMAX can only offer. With the IMAX schedule for this upcoming year, I think it will only reinforce that. $35 Million in IMAX for Polar Express? How many screens is that, maybe 200? I think they're pissing up the wrong flagpole with this. Maybe if they make a movie that someone wants to see, the business will pick up! These last 5 months sucked
 




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