Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Does the Christie CP-2000 ZX Do full Resolution 3D?

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Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 10-17-2008, 11:31 AM:

Is the CP-2000 ZX using the new 1.2" DMDs that can do full resolution triple flash 3D?

Posted by Tristan Lane (Member # 1169) on 10-17-2008, 11:45 AM:

The ZX uses the .98 chip, which can process 3D at full res and triple flash.

Posted by David Zylstra (Member # 4230) on 10-17-2008, 11:52 AM:

I was under the impression that the M is the only Christie with the .98" chip and the ZX and SB are getting the latest 1.2" that can do full res triple flash.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 10-17-2008, 01:02 PM:

Tristan would be wrong. The CP2000-ZX is a 1.2" machine. At the moment, it can not do full-res triple flash 3D. However, Christie does plan on incorporating that into all of their 1.2" machines as well as offer an upgrade path for existing machines.

This is not to be confused with version 2 chips due out next year (which will also dull full-resolution triple flash but with added DCI security features).

Steve

Posted by Tristan Lane (Member # 1169) on 10-18-2008, 01:38 PM:

Steve's right. I was somehow under the impression that the ZX as a .98 machine. Sorry for the misinformation.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-18-2008, 03:35 PM:

Actually Steve would be wrong... Christie will be shipping ZX's with the new chipset in November, CP-2000's in December. They used two CP-2000's with the new chipsets at Showeast to run 3-D at the usual AMC Theater.

Mark

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 10-18-2008, 06:46 PM:

What is wrong with you Mark? I was not wrong...Christie is NOT currently shipping with the new chipset...they WILL be incorporating it into all of their 1.2" machines. I merely didn't specify the ship date(s).

Steve

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-18-2008, 07:16 PM:

Nothing at all wrong Steve... its obvious you didn't fully read my post. I stated when they will be shipping... which is not next year. I don't think thats too difficult!

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 10-18-2008, 07:19 PM:

Another newbie question here: What's is triple flash?

Figured to better learn this new stuff while I can so when the time comes to apply this digital technology, I can be a bit ahead of the pack.

thx-Monte

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 10-18-2008, 07:38 PM:

Mark,

I did read your post...you didn't read mine. The version 2 chips are not shipping until next year...however triple-flash version 1 chips are going to be shipping later this year (for Christie).

You clearly don't seem to make the distinction.

Monte...triple-flash refers to a 3D process where each eye is flashed three times in a LRLRLR fashion to reduce the sequential nature of the 2K 3D presentation. The 144Hz rate exceeds the capability on the older 1.2" design at full resolution. As such, the resolution is reduced (with either a change in the lens or, if there is enough range, a zoomed out image) to make up the difference. The new 1.2" chips due out this year will fix that. The .98" chips never had the problem.

Steve

Posted by Tristan Lane (Member # 1169) on 10-19-2008, 11:29 PM:

For some reason during the introduction of the machine, I heard someone tell me they were .98 projectors and that information stuck. In fact a few industry folks I've worked with also had the same idea that the ZX was capable of full-res triple flash. I just assumed that meant it had the .98 based engine. It appears that both of those ideas are wrong.

Can anyone who has worked with the machines tell me if the ZX projector uses the same EFIB and Formatters as the SB or XB?

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-20-2008, 11:41 PM:

[QUOTE]Can anyone who has worked with the machines tell me if the ZX projector uses the same EFIB and Formatters as the SB or XB?
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Yes, the light engines and associated parts are the same in the ZX and CP-2000SB. The interface cards are very different though.
Mark

Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 10-21-2008, 01:44 PM:

When doing reduced resolution for triple flash, what is the resulting resolution for both scope and flat 3D?

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 10-21-2008, 05:15 PM:

I believe the max resolution is 1080 x 1800 in triple flash with current 1.2" chips. Thus, the limiting factor is the 1800 pixel width...the vertical resolution is a scaler representation of that for 1.85 and 2.39 respectively.

Steve