quote: Michael Voiland

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Second does anyone have the manuals for the series 2 projector from nec and the communicator software.

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I would be careful about asking for this it may cause people to consider you suspicous.
 

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Posted by Michael Voiland (Member # 5386) on 05-20-2010, 06:24 PM:
 
I am more concerned about the fact that we will be forced to move them and then when it wont line up we will be totally screwed. They don't listen to the projection department about anything until its to late.
 

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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-20-2010, 09:21 PM:
 
It's simple... They can create a macro for each theater a given projector will be used in and tied to the buttons. So you might have scope and flat 2-D and 3-D buttons for each theater... This way you don't have to go in and change the screen file each time you move the projector. You can create all these macros in just a few minutes time once all the masking and color files have been saved.
By the way Michael... I don't consider you suspicious at all since I've known you for some time now. Check your e-mail....

Mark
 

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Posted by Michael Voiland (Member # 5386) on 05-20-2010, 10:29 PM:
 
They set the projector us strange their are 6 formats because its got reald so its
2 resolutions of 3d scope
2 resolutions of 3d flat
and flat and scope

the problem i see with moving it is taking a crowbar to wedge it into its final position between theaters.
 

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Posted by Demetris Thoupis (Member # 833) on 05-21-2010, 01:25 AM:
 
Its actually not that hard to do this configuration. As Mark said you need separate files for each theater UNLESS they are completely identical! What's this with the crowbar issue?
Demetris
 

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Posted by Michael Voiland (Member # 5386) on 05-22-2010, 02:14 AM:
 
Our booth tech wanted us to lower the projector down on the wheels. Line it up as best as we can in front of the glass. Then level it out with the feet on the base their are 6 leveling feet then use a crowbar to do fine adjustment for the left and right.
 

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Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 05-22-2010, 02:19 AM:
 
I've done this, successfully.

You need an accurate locking mechanism to get it into place in each screen, we use something that looks like a bathroom door bolt, only stronger, longer and with no slop in it. One of those on diagonally opposite corners. A metal plate on the floor for the locking pins to engage in. Done.

Use a commando socket for the power, and a EDAC for everything else.

Fine alignment is done as described, you have multitple sets of macros for each theater, multiple sets of measured colour data, lamp power trimming etc. One thing to be aware of it that Dolby servers only 'see' the macros associated to the first 14 buttons on Barco machines for some reason. I've not tried this with NEC's so I don't know what will happen there.

The caveat I always add to theatre owners/operators is that whilst the machine is mobile it is not a 5 minute job to move it, so don't be programming 11:00 in screen 1, 13:30 in screen 7. Usually they move it on Thursday night, with the programme.
 

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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-22-2010, 02:44 PM:
 
Heaven help the poor slob that requires more than those 14 macros!!!
 

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Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 05-22-2010, 06:21 PM:
 
You only need to have it mobile between 3 screens and you're up against this. Let's assume flat/scope + 3D flat/scope, that's 4 per screen.

Now on a Barco you've only got 12 buttons. With 12 macros this isn't an issue, but if you want to have scaler, satellite, BluRay etc that means more macros. So at first you think to yourself, no problem, I'll put the ones I'm never going to need as server cues, on the buttons. The theory is good expect you now find that the format macros you really want as server cues have vanished from the server.
The workaround is the nice touch screen or cheap laptop, you can use that to call up the more obscure macros, putting your daily use ones on the first 14 presets.

If you try to make it mobile between more than 3 screens, at this time of the morning, I'm stumped!
 

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Posted by Michael Voiland (Member # 5386) on 05-22-2010, 09:54 PM:
 
Its a bad idea still in my mind.
Our booth tech came out the other night and tried to move it 4 inches well it was on the leveling feet with a crowbar... he failed.
 

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Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 05-23-2010, 05:18 AM:
 
It's a bad idea if it's not planned and executed carefully.

The ones I've done do not require levelling feet as such. The weight is taken by the castors at all times. As they are positioned on centre, no horizontal or vertical rake, on a level floor the picture alignment is all taken care of on the lens shift. and macros.

By contrast, there's another I've seen mobile, NOT by us I hasten to add. The booth does not have two ports at the same height above FFL, the floor is not level or smooth, and the projectors is sat on what I can only describe as a contraption. It's difficult to align everyime it moves and with the use of car screwjacks to change its height (yes you read that right), downright dangerous!
 

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Posted by Danial Simmonds (Member # 4638) on 06-02-2010, 10:55 PM:
 
When the cinema here first got a 3D projector they kept moving it from big hall to small after a week... for almost a year...

imagine moving those christie CP2000-S, heavy projectors... Car Jack is the perfect solution for getting the tilt desired.

It would be best to just stick the projector into a medium sized hall and get rid of the 35mm projector...
 

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