Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Has Dolby have DCI Certificate?

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Posted by Tugushan Ozdener (Member # 5496) on 08-06-2011, 07:01 AM:

Hello Guys,

I've received this e-mail

quote:
Dear d-cinema partner,

As you may be aware, our digital cinema deployment agreements with you require your compliance with the DCI Specification.

Projector Updates
As per the terms and conditions of our agreements, we are asking all of our integrator and exhibitor partners for a status check on the updating of TI Series 1 projectors. As I’m sure you can recall, we made specific reference to this in our agreement and now that the “TI Security Upgrade” (aka Gore Fix) is available, we expect these projectors to be fitted with this.

Pls send us an update on this issue by 15th July 2011 by letter or return email.

Server Updates
Doremi’s d-cinema server received its DCI compliance certificate on the 7th June 2011. As a result all other servers used in the field must be DCI certified within 6 months of this date, namely 7th December 2011. It is also worthwhile to note that Sony’s projector/server combination has already received DCI certification. If your servers have not been certified by this time, they must be replaced with those that have been certified or we will not be able to play our content on these machines.

We strongly suggest that contact your hardware vendors to update you on this pressing matter.

Best Regards,

Richard Aseme
Director, Digital Cinema
Paramount Pictures International

Then checked out DCI Compliance webpages @ http://www.dcimovies.com/compliance/index.html

Dolby doesn't in Compliant Equipment list

quote:
COMPLIANT EQUIPMENT
Barco NV:

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-12C, 11Cx
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-15C
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-20C, 18Cx
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-19B
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-23B
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP2K-32B
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DP4K-32B, 23B, 19B
(with 2K Link Decryptor)
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DCP3-LX II, -MX, -SX
[view html] [get pdf]

Barco Digital Projector DPC-80
[view html] [get pdf]

Christie Digital:

Christie Digital Projector CP2210
[view html] [get pdf]

Christie Digital Projector CP2220
[view html] [get pdf]

Christie Digital Projector CP2230
[view html] [get pdf]

Doremi Cinema:

Doremi Cinema Integrated Media Block ShowVault
[view html] [get pdf]

Doremi Digital Cinema Server DCP-2000, -2000-NTS, -2K4, Montage CDCS 2000
[view html] [get pdf]

NEC:

NEC Digital Projector NC1200C
[view html] [get pdf]

NEC Digital Projector NC2000C
[view html] [get pdf]

NEC Digital Projector NC3200S
[view html] [get pdf]

SONY:

SONY Digital Projector SRX-R220
[view html] [get pdf]

SONY Digital Projector SRX-R320
[view html] [get pdf]

SONY Digital Projector SRX-R320S
[view html] [get pdf]

Then I found this newsletter in 2007

quote:
Dolby Laboratories, Inc. (NYSE: DLB) today announced that the Dolby® Digital Cinema server has officially earned its Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS) 140-2 Level 3 validation certificate. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a nonregulatory federal agency within the US Department of Commerce, awarded the certificate.

The Dolby Digital Cinema server is the first digital cinema server to achieve the highest level of content protection security specified by the Digital Cinema Initiative (DCI). All Dolby Digital Cinema servers, currently in over 400 cinemas worldwide, meet the FIPS Level 3 requirements, which is a major step toward achieving DCI compliance.

“We are proud to reach this important milestone, as our team has been diligent in its efforts to make Dolby Digital Cinema DCI compliant to the fullest extent possible,” said Tim Partridge, Executive Vice President, Products and Technology, Dolby Laboratories. “To be the first company awarded the FIPS Level 3 certification in digital cinema validates our engineering approach. Studios and exhibitors alike can be reassured that Dolby has their best interests in mind by committing to the highest levels of content security specified by DCI in every location.”

FIPS 140-2 are security standards adopted by DCI and cover detailed requirements for physical security, software, interfaces, key management, and cryptographic algorithms. To earn the certification, the Dolby Digital Cinema server underwent a rigorous testing process by InfoGard Laboratories, an accredited cryptographic module testing laboratory, which performed extensive analysis of the design and construction of the unit. InfoGard submitted its test report to NIST, which issued the FIPS 140-2 Level 3 validation certificate.

“Due to the specialized design and documentation requirements combined with the rigorous validation testing, FIPS 140-2 Level 3 is one of the toughest objectives for DCI server manufacturers to meet,” said Thomas Caddy, General Manager and Laboratory Director of InfoGard Laboratories. “We congratulate Dolby for achieving this significant milestone.”

The official Dolby Digital Cinema FIPS 140-2 NIST certificate is number 842.

I'm confused [Confused]

Has Dolby DCI Compliant or not? If no what will we do

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 08-06-2011, 07:17 AM:

Perhaps you should call Dolby about this? I imagine they're working on it...

Posted by Tugushan Ozdener (Member # 5496) on 08-06-2011, 07:21 AM:

Thank you Chris, It's Saturday and they never reply any questions on weekend [sleep]

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 08-06-2011, 07:58 AM:

On the other hand, Dolby says that they're servers are DCI-compliant but that isn't the same as being certified... [Smile]

Posted by Tugushan Ozdener (Member # 5496) on 08-09-2011, 06:47 AM:

I've received an e-mail from dolby. They are working on it still. I hope they will catch death-line.

Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 08-09-2011, 07:07 AM:

Even if they miss the deadline, they sure will negotiate. You can think about Dolby whatever you want, but their market dominance at least is good for something.

- Carsten

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-10-2011, 01:56 AM:

Carsten gets the prize. Dolby is too big for the deadline to pose a problem. This thread is unnecessary worrying.

Posted by Michael Karagosian (Member # 5280) on 08-19-2011, 05:36 PM:

DCI compliant products are listed at http://www.dcimovies.com/compliance/. It's a safe assumption that all servers not yet compliant are in queue for test. But it's not a safe assumption that the testing process will complete for all manufacturers by December 7. One of the certification entities says it takes them 12 weeks to complete a test cycle. If there are errors, fixes have to be made, and then tested again.

Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 08-20-2011, 08:24 AM:

Well, with only two or three server types being left without compliance clearance, that queue shouldn't be too long...

- Carsten

Posted by Jorgen Larsen (Member # 5302) on 12-03-2011, 05:30 AM:

Hi Does anybody have an update of this issue. Dolby is not yet certified as i can see.
Thanks

Posted by Steven J Hart (Member # 2340) on 12-03-2011, 09:33 AM:

GDC servers aren't on the compliance list either. Lots of those going in.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 12-03-2011, 02:07 PM:

This ONLY pertains to those collecting VPF payments. Those that are collecting VPF's will just need a letter of guarantee from either Dolby or GDC stating that they will be compliant by a certain date.

There are about three times as many GDC servers going in right now than any other brand. So I have no doubt that both Dolby and GDC will become compliant and that it shold be pretty easy to upgrade to full compliance. But really... how much more compliant does it need to be? Fips 140-3 is the same suckurity level the CIA typically uses in their document transmissions.
Mark

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 12-03-2011, 05:22 PM:

Word has it...the Doremi servers that were installed prior to DCI compliance may need hardware updates to make THEM DCI compliant. Kinda like how Series 1 projectors needed GORE board updates.

I'm sure DCI compliance is pending on both GDC and Dolby...it is a long process and not necessarily in the hands of the companies. I think they have something like 6-months from the time one entity obtains compliance that heretofore was not compliable.

-Steve

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 12-03-2011, 05:51 PM:

Gee, amazing how film doesn't need a software update or certificate to be compliant with the projectors. [Smile]

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 12-03-2011, 06:48 PM:

Tony... I bet that if the studios were paying for your film projectors they wold have to be!

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-04-2012, 01:18 PM:

Dolby's DSS200 has now passed its DCI compliance test.

Note too, GDC's SA-2100A has also passed.

For your viewing pleasure:

http://www.dcimovies.com/compliance/

Posted by Jason Raftery (Member # 6291) on 01-04-2012, 04:46 PM:

The DSS200's compliance report at the link Steve provided shows the following software versions were used on the tested unit:
System Version: 4.4.0.39
Show Manager Version: 4.4.0.25

I thought 4.3.5 was still in beta. If 4.4.x is needed for DCI compliance, when is it scheduled to be released?

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-04-2012, 06:14 PM:

4.4.x.x is to be the DCI compliance release. The actual current GA release of the Dolby software is 4.3.0.36. There are higher versions in Beta, as you say.

Note, the GDC player that passed DCI is running software 8.x not 7.x too.

I know the Dolby player is JUST a software update...I'm pretty sure Doremi will have hardware fixes to earlier players...I'm not sure on the GDC player but I think it is just software too.

-Steve

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-04-2012, 08:59 PM:

Yep... just a software update on "the other" player, no kdm required [Wink]

. The only difference between "the other" players is the front panel and or lack of small touch screen monitor. INside it's the same.

Mark

Posted by Peter Castle (Member # 1997) on 01-04-2012, 10:12 PM:

Any reason why the GDC that has passed compliance is the discontinued 2100A and not the 2000?
BTW We've got a 2100A with an external touchscreen - our internal one failed. Took some effort to get it to notice the external touchscreen.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-06-2012, 09:07 AM:

GDC told me in an email yesterday that 8.x will be released with in a month or so's time frame. Oh, did I mention that no KDM is required to load this firmware in... [thumbsup]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-06-2012, 09:57 AM:

Are your pants getting tight there Mark?

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-06-2012, 12:30 PM:

Nope, somewhat baggy... boot cut in fact!

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-06-2012, 07:05 PM:

The remaining GDCs are now on the DCI list:

Digital Cinema Server GDC SA-2100A, SA-2100T, SA-2100AQ, SA-2100, SX-2001A,SX-2001T, SX-2001AQ

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 01-22-2012, 01:51 PM:

Just noticed yesterday on Dolby's site that the DSS-200 is DCI compliant now.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-22-2012, 02:28 PM:

You should have noticed on this site when I posted it weeks ago! Pay attention mister!

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 08-21-2012, 05:18 PM:

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Oh, did I mention that no KDM is required to load this firmware in...

As it turns out... a false statement. GDC does require a KDM for all players to make the jump to DCI compliance.

GDC (and I believe Doremi) do require a VERY slight hardware change too...that is an additional Ethernet cable will be required to connect the new security manager to the network (as well as program the new security manager).