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Posted by Ian Freer (Member # 1940) on 10-22-2013, 10:40 AM:
 
Is it possible to set up a Sony LMT-300 and Doremi ShowVault to be able to transfer content directly between them? I rarely come across Sony's but working a Film Festival where we have one as a back-up in case of problems with the main projection system.

It would be nice to be able to transfer the content quickly rather than having to ingest twice via USB.

Cheers,
Ian
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 10-22-2013, 03:23 PM:
 
Both support ftp client and server mode, so, basically it should be possible.

- Carsten
 
Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 10-22-2013, 03:49 PM:
 
never tried with a Sony, but I have tried Doremi and Dolby. Not successful really.
 
Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 10-22-2013, 04:14 PM:
 
I don't think you can access the FTP on a SONY LMT 300. I don't think you can access an FTP folder from an LMT300 either. It uses FTP protocol, but it's for internal use.
You can access an FTP folder from an XTC-10 and you can also access its content by FTP.

Pete,
Dolby is removing the assetmap files when ingesting, so Doremi will recognize the content as corrupted. I know there was a plan to stop doing so, but haven't checked on latest software if that is still the case!
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 10-22-2013, 04:23 PM:
 
You can ftp LMT300 and XCT-S10 - their internal transfer mechanism is FTP with predefined login parameters. Wether this is successful from a Doremi, I don't know.

But bidirectional access is not needed anayway. If the Sony can ftp into the Doremi, that would be sufficient.

I don't know a cinema with both server types. Even if, they would probably transfer content from a TMS, not directly between the servers.

If it is a Sony XCT-S10, CRU and USB 3.0 ingest is extremely fast. If it is a LMT300, it has only USB2.0, and network transfers are faster.

Hard to tell wether network transfers would be a benefit over parallel CRU Ingests.

- Carsten
 
Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 10-22-2013, 04:48 PM:
 
Great I did not know you could access the content on the LMT, only the SMS.

You've got a PM!
 
Posted by Sascha Roll (Member # 4844) on 11-02-2013, 04:28 PM:
 
Of course it's not a problem to connect Dolby / Doremi / Sony Servers.

All you need is the FTP-Login for the Sony Server. (User: "s2suser", PW: "sahbicwd"). I guess you know the IP-Adress of your LMT.
 
Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 11-17-2017, 12:49 AM:
 

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Posted by Alexandre Pereira (Member # 9295) on 11-17-2017, 12:49 AM:
 
"All you need is the FTP-Login for the Sony Server. (User: "s2suser", PW: "sahbicwd"). I guess you know the IP-Adress of your LMT. "

I can get into the LMT-300 but it does not allow any files to be downloaded? Says connection terminated by server. Is this a permissions issue on the Sony side?
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 11-17-2017, 06:19 AM:
 
Do you use a PC/FTP client software, or a second DCI server to access the Sony?

- Carsten
 
Posted by Alexandre Pereira (Member # 9295) on 11-17-2017, 11:05 AM:
 
Hi Carsten

PC - using Filezilla - wow - I just tried it on passive mode and it works. Maybe Filezilla needed to be restarted.
I kept getting the OOPS: 500: CHILD DIED error every time I attempted a down load.

Also settings in Filezilla needs to be set to Auto - for file transfer type.
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 11-17-2017, 02:04 PM:
 
I would suggest 'Binary'.

-Carsten
 
Posted by Alexandre Pereira (Member # 9295) on 11-17-2017, 02:32 PM:
 
I tried binary - does not like it. That is when the error comes up OOPS 500...auto works. At least it does with filezilla. Have not tried it with any other FTP client.

Any idea how you would be able to FTP from a DSS100 to the Sony?...DSS is at 192.168.241.3 and Sony is at 192.168.1.10?...would you need a switch or can this be bridged through a linux box?
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 11-17-2017, 04:12 PM:
 
The Sony has three network interfaces. You should set the Data network port to the same network as the Dolby. Wether they speak 'compatible' FTP dialects, I don't know.

- Carsten
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 11-17-2017, 09:07 PM:
 
Dunno if that would work with a Sony, but I've certainly configured a Barco Alchemy to pull content from two DSS200s on the same subnet by configuring one of its two network cards on the Dolby media network ("theater network" as the Dolby documentation calls it) - 192.168.241.X / 24, and then setting up the two DSS200s as FTP network ingest sources.

According to the Barco documentation, it will look several folder layers down in any FTP server it logs on to, so in this case it looked in the generatedPackages folders on the DSS200, saw all the CPLs, and listed them as DCPs available for network ingest.

quote: Marco Guistini, four years ago
Dolby is removing the assetmap files when ingesting, so Doremi will recognize the content as corrupted. I know there was a plan to stop doing so, but haven't checked on latest software if that is still the case!
That was fixed in software version 4.9, released earlier this year. The "outgest" function from the Show Manager GUI will now export all the DCP files to your USB or CRU drive: it won't skip the PKL and assetmap. Regardless of what version of software is in use, you can also export a DCP via FTP from the generatedPackages folder: find the UUID using Show Manager, then download the entire contents of that folder name.
 
Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 11-18-2017, 04:14 AM:
 
unlikely.
You cannot pull content from a Sony. The Sony can pull content from somewhere else but Dolby servers (up to some version) will remove the small files in a CPL, making it unreadable from other servers. So I guess the answer is no, unless someone knows a trick I don't.
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 11-18-2017, 05:34 PM:
 
I haven't tried it with an LMT300, but it's no problem to pull content from a 515/510/S10 through FTP, I regularly do that. The Sony screen-to-screen mechanism also uses FTP. So I wouldn't know why it shouldn't work on an LMT300, as screen-to-screen works between LMT300 and S10 as well.

- Carsten
 
Posted by Alexandre Pereira (Member # 9295) on 11-18-2017, 08:28 PM:
 
It does work!
Ftp: 192.168.1.10 - DATA port in my case.
User: "s2suser", PW: "sahbicwd"
For both upload and download across the FTP.

I just figured out that you cannot be injesting content in from the USB port. Not sure if that is the case too if uploading at the same time to the LMT-300 across the FTP. Any USB injesting will cause the download to stop and the following error: OOPS: 500: CHILD DIED
 
Posted by Marco Giustini (Member # 4544) on 11-19-2017, 02:46 PM:
 
Interesting.
I thought the way the Sony worked was that the TMS - or another Sony - requested the content to the projector and the projector PUSHED the content to the machine requesting it.
I tried pulling content in the past but with no luck. Maybe because I was not on the data port.
 




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