Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: BARCO DALLAS KEY

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Posted by Allan Barnes (Member # 5178) on 04-20-2015, 10:00 PM:

My "new" Barco 1500 didn't come with a Dallas Key. Is each KEY good only for one specific projector? I can buy a new key for only $25 but how to program it? Do I need to call Barco? And what information do I need for them?

Help please!

Posted by Marin Zorica (Member # 1716) on 04-21-2015, 05:27 AM:

You can, just loggin to projector via communicator and go to key menagement somewhere and add new key, as well confirmation password.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-21-2015, 08:46 AM:

If it was a new projector...the key was in the "Lid" of the shipping box in a ziplock bag with the "manual." The key is available as a separate part from Barco and is part of the ibutton series (google it) from other suppliers.

Yes, you can add different keys to the approved list (something like 4 or 5). If you have others in the complex you can use them on the new projector. If you don't want to try to read the key's number off of the key...you can use the key, let it fail and then look at the logs for what key just tried to be used...the full number will be there.

Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 04-22-2015, 01:47 AM:

Yeah, you need good light to read those tiny numbers!

I can manage it unaided if the light is decent.Sometimes I have to resort to a lens. I wonder if one could photograph it with a mobile phone?

Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 04-22-2015, 03:51 AM:

quote: Pete Naples
I wonder if one could photograph it with a mobile phone?

As I get older, I find that reading fine text in anything but the most idea light is becoming increasingly difficult - especially when I have my contacts in. Taking a picture with my phone and then zooming is the way I frequently get around this, including how I read the number on the Dallas key to my projector.

Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 04-22-2015, 04:00 AM:

Steve's way isn't all that stupid.

Maybe Barco could come up with some interface improvements. Create a list of "failed keys" including a timestamp when it was last tried to use them and authorize them via a simple push on the button.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-22-2015, 08:22 AM:

quote: Justin Hamaker

As I get older, I find that reading fine text in anything but the most idea light is becoming increasingly difficult...

No, my arms are just getting shorter. [Wink]

Posted by Frank Cox (Member # 6258) on 04-22-2015, 12:31 PM:

This is very handy:

Magnifying Glass (android)

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 04-22-2015, 05:48 PM:

Allan:
You can use the key from one of your other projectors for it, one key will work on any number of projectors.
I think any iButton key will work, but I haven't tried any that didn't come with a projector.
You need to read the 3 number fields on the iButton back: 2 characters, a bunch, and 2 more. They are hexadecimal numbers, from 0-9 plus A,B,C,D. Frigging small numbers but readable in the right light depending on your eyes, a magnifier is good or use a digital camera or phone camera that focuses close.
You need a PC with Communicator - you have that - or a touchpanel, I think you have one somewhere?
Connect to the projector, log in as st, go to installation/advanced/"manage security keys", click the "read" icon at top left and the active keys will show up. You can click the "used" one or a blank one (since you don't have the key for the "used" one)... then click the "write" icon at lower left. Enter the numbers off the key, they give you a little picture of the key to fill in. Enter a password, for S1 the normal password is

; for S2 it's

.
Click the save icon at top right.
Done.

[ 04-23-2015, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 04-22-2015, 06:04 PM:

Passwords are not supposed to be posted I believe

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 04-22-2015, 07:24 PM:

Well true, but if someone has the st password they can both see the original one and change it to whatever they want.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-23-2015, 01:58 AM:

Doesn't matter, that's the default password and it wouldn't exist if it was intended to have been posted publicly.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-23-2015, 08:38 AM:

You also have no idea if any person on this forum has the authority to make changes to a projector. As such, it is never a good idea to publicly post ANY passwords. Even minor ones. I guarantee that there is a legitimate way for an authorized person to obtain what they need.

Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 04-23-2015, 01:41 PM:

Well, to be fair... default passwords aren't there for protection, they are there, because the system enforces a password to be present and the owner of the equipment is supposed to change it to something else. If it was me, every system would be programmed with a unique password before it's shipped to the customer, but since that costs a few bucks extra, vendors usually don't go that route.

I know it's the policy of this site. But default passwords are more like part of the documentation, than really there to protect anything.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-23-2015, 07:06 PM:

The password doesn't show in the documentation. Furthermore, the password you were ready to show is the high-level password too.

You can fault Barco for making a high-level password the one that is there at the ready.

Regardless, it is NEVER a good idea to post ANY password in a public forum

Posted by Jay Glaus (Member # 6011) on 04-27-2015, 02:14 AM:

Reading the number off those keys can be a pain in a dark booth.

I came across some S series barcos and was surprised to see the Dallas key is no longer with them. It's simply a button with a key icon on it that you press and then enter the passcode.

I'm surprised that passed code, I figured with the security that is put on these things that they would want a physical dallas key.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-27-2015, 06:19 AM:

DCI compliance only requires a physical presence to clear the error. It does NOT require a physical key of any type.

Both NEC and Christie also do not use a physical key. Christie has one press the marriage button and NEC has a passcode...though both Christie and NEC also require an additional high-level password via the UI to initiate the marriage sequence.

All of it is pretty silly though. All they are getting is a log entry that there was a security breach and then it was cleared by an "authorized" person. But one doesn't know who that person was.