Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: What is "Textless" in CPL for XXX: The Return of Xander Cage

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Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 01-16-2017, 06:00 PM:

I'm ingesting the content for XXX: The Return of Xander Cage, and I noticed two of the CPLs have "textless" right between 2D and S_EN-XX. Any clue what this is?

Posted by Frank Cox (Member # 6258) on 01-16-2017, 08:22 PM:

At a wild guess, maybe the movie has a scene with some spoken language other than English with subtitles that either are or are not printed on the screen?

Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 01-16-2017, 09:55 PM:

I've run into this once before- but in the CPL I had, "textless" was not spelled
out, but was abbreviated as"TL" and was in a different position in the CPL.
In my case, it signified an "International" version of the feature I was running.

I know it's somewhere in the ISDCF naming convention document, because I recall
looking it up back then. But I've never seen it spelled the way it is in your example.

Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 01-16-2017, 10:59 PM:

Textless is the base package without any captions or subtitles.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 01-18-2017, 05:58 PM:

Been easier just to leave this "textless" out so not to be so confusing. For, I was wondering on that as well.

But, when receiving the keys, this "textless" was not in the name string of the key.

XXX3_FTR-2-2D_S_EN-XX-CCAP_OV_51-HI-VI-Dbox_2K_PC_20170108_DTB_IOP_OV

For a lot of us than can read the CPL naming string, we would have noticed that CCAP, Hi-VI would not have been included into the string.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-18-2017, 07:05 PM:

I've had three calls from customers about this since Monday. Thats what I assumed it was ...

Mark

Posted by Nerijus Marmokas (Member # 6712) on 01-19-2017, 04:11 AM:

Textless, or TL version is needed if you have to also ingest a supplemental package with subtitles. Some files in TL are different from OV vesrion, but not all.