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Posted by Jerzy Gwizdz (Member # 8819) on 01-30-2017, 02:26 AM:

Hi
We have 4 different projection systems: Nec NC2000C + Doremi 2K4, Christie CP2220 + Dolby DSS200, Sony SRX-R515 + XTC-S10 and Barco DP2K-6E + ICMP.
We work TMS Screenwriter Arts Aliiance. Unfortunately, TMS badly working with Sony and Barco.
What other TMS recommend.
Regards

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 01-30-2017, 10:34 AM:

We have been very happy with cine-digital

Posted by Leslie Hartmier (Member # 7053) on 01-30-2017, 08:05 PM:

Yes, CineDigital Manager will work with any combination (I'm only listing the devices we have tested ourselves - I know it works on others, but I'm not going to list them) of Barco DP100, Barco DP3000, NEC NC2000C, NC1200C, NC900C, NC2500S, Christie CP2210, Dolby DSS/DSP100, Doremi ShowVault4, GDC SX2000, SX-2001AR, and SX-3000.

The first location (the place we tested whether it was usable for us) had a NEC NC2500S/Dolby DSS/DSP100 and an NEC NC900C with a Doremi ShowVault4.

'Interesting' backstory to why we used that location to test -
1) we wanted to be sure that series 1 and series 2 machines were controllable in the same complex.
2) with less than three screens, CDM is free (just needs to be renewed annually, which is still free, and there are a few functions not available, such as delayed transfers and automatic KDM downloads/transfers)
3) the manager of the location was my roommate, so everyone knew that I would hear about it if it was annoying the manager, likely at the top of her voice.

At any rate, I can vouch for its ability to work with various devices in the same complex, including series 1 and 2.

Leslie

Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 01-30-2017, 08:45 PM:

The OP mentions Sony.

CDM doesn't work with Sony, the developers have no plans to integrate it with Sony.

We have a site using Barco, Kinoton, Sony, Dolby and Doremi managed by a Unique RB TMS. That mostly works, it's the Sony's it has issues with.

Posted by Leslie Hartmier (Member # 7053) on 01-30-2017, 09:27 PM:

Ahh, that is good to know. At least in Canada, I'm not terribly aware of many Sony projectors (to be precise, I am aware of one, which might mean more, but darned if I know where, nor am I terribly concerned about my lack of that knowledge.)

It is good to know that CDM doesn't support Sony. If asked, it would be problematic to tell them about CDM, only to have it not work for them.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 01-31-2017, 04:28 PM:

Sony has a TMS that will interface with the other makes.

Posted by Kevin Tan (Member # 8150) on 04-06-2017, 07:08 PM:

You might want to consider GDC TMS-2000 which support all your listed server/projector.

Posted by Annli Com (Member # 8266) on 04-07-2017, 02:29 AM:

Dear All
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Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-07-2017, 06:39 AM:

I believe the TCC (Theatre Command Center) which has had various parents, starting with AccessIT/Cinedigm will work with all.

I'd think that F-T's TMS would work with everything too.

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 04-07-2017, 09:30 AM:

The Arts Alliance system I've been trying to support works with the Doremi and Dolby DSS servers on site but not the Barco ICMP (Escape screen). Their website says the ICMP is supported, but I haven't managed to get Christie to supply a version that will talk to one: the site has a Christie LMS running AA software. Christie NOC just says the site has the "correct software version" and won't respond to questions about why it won't work with the ICMP.
I support a lot of Doremi TMS systems and they have been no problem, but they are in 100% Doremi sites.
We also have a lot of GDC TMS systems but these are minimal installations with no local content storage, only doing scheduling from the POS system and inter-server content transfers. No problems with them except keeping the licenses up to date.

Posted by Tom Bert (Member # 5719) on 04-12-2017, 10:11 AM:

The AAM TMS is indeed fully integrated with Barco's ICMP. How is your use case related to Escape (that is indeed an exceptional case, since 3 servers included). AAM has Escape-support on their roadmap

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 04-14-2017, 07:21 AM:

They want to add the Escape system primary ICMP to the TMS so it will run "normal" shows without manual operation (playlist creation and scheduling). They do not expect to have Escape shows without that.
Christie NOC was not helpful. Christie certainly loathes Barco so maybe they just won't help make it work?

Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 04-14-2017, 07:47 AM:

Just out of curiosity, but why would Escape need an adaptation in the TMS? Isn't it just a different CPL that gets played on the primary ICMP and the Barco Alchemy ICMP doing the rest of the *ahum* magic for you?