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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-26-2001, 02:10 AM:
 
Universal
Technicolor depot
Deluxe Hollywood lab
7 reels
2.39 scope
SRD/SDDS-6/DTS

Attached: Jurassic Park 3
Loose: Fast and Furious

Note to changeover houses: on every reel, the audio stops for a brief moment at the changeovers.
 


Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 04-26-2001, 08:58 AM:
 
Brad said: "Note to changeover houses: on every reel, the audio stops for a brief moment at the changeovers."

Do you mean there's no soundtrack on the ends of each reel? If so, wouldn't you have a dropout at the splices on a plattered print too? Or is this just a at changeover houses?

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-26-2001, 11:12 AM:
 
It is just mixed that way; the physical soundtrack never stops. It was very bizarre for a film made today, as we all found it distracting since few parts of the movie are actually quiet scenes. Just imagine a continuous level of noise throughout a reel and then right at the reel changes everything quickly drops to zero...splice...quickly fades back up. This was obviously mixed in this manner for changeover theaters to be able to "lose" frames.

 
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 04-26-2001, 12:17 PM:
 
Strange! Would the presentation be improved if you didn't include the ends without sound when you spliced the reels together for presentation off a platter? Perhaps a rare example of a feature where showing every frame isn't the best presentation.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-27-2001, 05:46 AM:
 
Nope, that would just make it worse. However, I can confirm that cutting a frame off on the leaders of this particular feature would not make any difference.

You'll just have to watch it to see what I mean.
 


Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 05-03-2001, 05:49 PM:
 
On my release print the trailers were as follows:

Attached: The Fast and the Furious

Enclosed: Jurassic Park 3, Shrek, Evolution, Final Fantasy, Atlantis, Angel Eyes, Dr. Dolittle 2, What's the Worst That Can Happen?

I've never seen 8 Enclosures before! It's getting to the point where the studios are gonna have to start sending an extra can for just the trailers (not that I mind - I can always use extra trailers)
 


Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 05-03-2001, 07:42 PM:
 
>>I've never seen 8 Enclosures before!<<

My print of 'Cast Away' had ELEVEN enclosed trailers (technically ten titles as there were two 'Monkeybone' trailers in the tally.) Shipped in a 3-reel can with one reel of the feature and the rest of the can packed with trailers.

I personally think they need to stop shipping trailers 'in-the-can' and go back to sending them in boxes or other packaging so we dont have to keep shipping prints back with half-empty cans etc...


Aaron

 


Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-03-2001, 10:00 PM:
 
Aaron said: "I personally think they need to stop shipping trailers 'in-the-can' and go back to sending them in boxes or other packaging so we dont have to keep shipping prints back with half-empty cans etc..."

I agree. Shipping prints in cases that are not full (e.g., 2 reels in a 3-reel shipping case) is just asking for damage to the film and reels. It's penny-wise and pound-foolish to save a little money on shipping, and then have reels of film badly dished or edge-damaged. Trailers packed loosely in the shipping case usually don't fare too well either.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-04-2001, 05:10 AM:
 
It's even worse when the reels are so busted up that you are essentially shipping the film back on cores.
 
Posted by John T. Hendrickson, Jr (Member # 849) on 05-05-2001, 09:09 AM:
 
Last week I told my staff that everybody and his brother would want their trailers playing with this print. In addition to the eight we got in the can, we had two additional ones "chasing" via Fed Ex.

You have to wonder when this nonsence is going to stop. You could spend your life just putting together trailer cores in an average size multiplex.
 


Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 05-06-2001, 08:09 PM:
 
Brad said...>>However, I can confirm that cutting a frame off on the leaders would not make any difference.<<

OK...so maybe I did a little bit of editing of what he said, but I enjoyed it anyway...

(cue evil laugh here...)

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-07-2001, 04:15 AM:
 
A LOT of editing there John. This is probably the ONLY movie I've seen in years that would allow the chopping of frames on the leaders where it wouldn't bother "at least" one changeover.

I am closing this thread, for it is wandering WAAAAAAAY too far off track.
 






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