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Posted by Jeffry L. Johnson (Member # 453) on 09-16-2002, 09:32 PM:
The Rules of AttractionLions Gate Films
6 reels
Flat 1.85:1
Dolby SR
Kodak 2383
TES
Note: Reel 6 soundtrack continues throughout foot leader.
Posted by Mathew Molloy (Member # 666) on 09-21-2002, 01:15 AM:
Jeffrey, I don't think it's the release print you ran as the credits are incomplete. Look closely and you'll see things like "song list goes here" or "gaffer tba". I've run 3 versions of this now with one to go next week and the credit sequence gets longer every time.
Posted by Mathew Molloy (Member # 666) on 10-02-2002, 02:31 AM:
Just wanted to add that the release print's credit sequence is complete and the sound no longer 'tails out'. FYI the credit sequence in this film runs in reverse but the blue "R" band is still at the end.
No attached trailers on this release either (print #33) but reel 2 had a lab problem with the picture 'bouncing' the first 30 seconds and the last 30 seconds of the reel.
I would just like to add that although I thoroughly detest this film, it has some of the best changeover moments. (Reel 1 - changeover on the final beat of a song by The Cure, Reel 2 - Door slam, etc.)
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-02-2002, 02:46 AM:
Ugh, I wonder how long those changeovers will be able to be effective, as especially in the art house circuit people in general don't seem to care and will chop off those frames like crazy.
Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 10-11-2002, 02:42 AM:
Attached:
House of 1000 CorpsesHead leaders say SR
Two sound logos during the credits
One says Dolby in select theatres
The other says MONO SR
Question about that in a new thread will be posted soon.
Posted by Alex Grasic (Member # 1371) on 10-11-2002, 02:53 AM:
Brad, I guess that's why I've heard so much for NOT leaving ID frames which is important in cases like this. I just ran through my copy without cutting ID frames and it sounds beautiful! I just hope the next guys who get our print won't decide to snip the frame.
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 10-11-2002, 09:33 PM:
There is no justification for making another cut. If they do it'll be because they are too lazy to peel your splice and someone like that would make a new cut even if there was already an ID frame there; they would make yet another cut one frame farther in. The reason I say there is no justification is that even though I advocate leaving an ID frame (except in rare situations) that's something that would have to be done on the first build. Once the cut has been made between black and the first or last frame the absolute proof offered by an ID frame is gone. Leaving a frame with the leader serves no purpose if that frame is connected via a splice instead of contiguous. This is not a argument pro or con on ID frames but simply pointing out that whatever advantages they do or do not bring, it must be done on first build to have any worth.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-11-2002, 11:03 PM:
Please no chit chat. You may dredge up an old thread on this if you like, or start a new one, but please not in this forum.
Posted by Michael Brown (Member # 890) on 04-05-2003, 02:40 PM:
Note that the end credits runs 'backwards' and there are a lot of other backwards sequences in the film.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 06-07-2003, 02:28 AM:
What Mathew said. Running this with manual changeovers provides more entertainment value that the film itself does. And, yes, I got all of them perfect (not frame accurate, but pretty darn close).