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Posted by John T. Hendrickson, Jr (Member # 849) on 02-03-2005, 02:10 PM:
Sony Pictures
Flat (black matte) 1.85:1
5 Reels
SR/SRD/DTS/SDDS
ETS depot
Kodak 2883 Hi Magenta stock
Delux lab
RT: 89 minutes
Attached: The Cave
Loose: Guess Who
Fantastic Four
Constantine
High Tension
Ring 2 & Amityville Horror (listed on enclsoed sheet, but not included with my print)
IMPORTANT NOTE!!! There is a fade out on Reel #1. In order to make the proper cut, take heed of John Pytlak's recent post regarding the change in cue marking of Delux prints as of January 2005.
Make your cut 18 frames after the last cue-marked frame (or as stated previously, DeLux now has 22 frames to the end with the four frames of cues included. The cue marks are in the black fadeout. Also beware that this print is black matte, so watch your cut.
Disregard this and you will end up with a sloppy presentation.
Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 02-04-2005, 12:34 AM:
Any suggestions for someone w/o a frame counter?
Are the frame lines easily seen when held to light?
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 02-04-2005, 02:16 AM:
If you hold the film up into a very bright light you can see the dark shaded frame lines. Count down 18 frames from the last cue dot. Find the last cue dot and count four sprockets taking into account that there are 1 sprocket on one side of the dot and 3 on the other side. Then keep counting four dots as you inch the film down till you have counted 18 frames. Remember that the cue dots are positioned at the top of the frame.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-06-2005, 03:08 PM:
Or, if you are like me and hate counting frame lines that are near invisible, just get a piece of film with very visible frame lines and cut 18 frames and use it as a measure on your hard-to-see fade.
Are the cue marks white or very visible in the black frames? Cover them with a dot of india ink or even a black Sharpie marker on both sides of the film. There's nothing more distracting than cues on a totally black screen.
Posted by Alexander Smith (Member # 1769) on 03-04-2005, 04:46 AM:
In an effort to confuse UK projectionists, Sony
have used Technicolour to produce the prints for
the UK.
I found that if you count 24 frames from the last
cue-marked frame, you'll have the last frame of
the reel.
I checked this on reels 2 and 3, but I agree with
the principle of using a bright torch under the
film to visualise the black matting.
Alex.
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 03-04-2005, 05:07 AM:
..grab you an old sprocket. Make standard 4 sprocket frame lines across the face of the sprocket with anything that will put white or black lines across it. Then find a frame line on the film to match the frame line on the sprocket and roll the sprocket over the film to where the necessary cut is to be.
Little tip though: hold the film tightly against the sprocket so the sprocket doesn't "jump teeth" over the film and throw the frame count off.
I've done this trick for years,even though I have a keen eye in seeing framelines.
This trick is great in making framelines on solid black film usage.
-Monte
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