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I will start by saying that there is now a new winner for worst movie of the year. Bulletproof Monk is now off the hook.

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Nope! Clearly you did not watch "Dumb and Dumberer" this week, for there is no way "Hollywood Homicide" could possibly be worse than this dumb piece of doo.

I know the title is "Dumb and Dumberer", which tends to imply that the movie will be dumb...but really now, I didn't even crack a smirk for the entire movie. This is truly dumb, and perhaps the biggest waste of time I have ever seen on a movie screen. (Yes, even On the Line starring Lance Bass was better than this! ) The only thing positive I can say about this film is that the casting was very good. Of course good casting and crappy everything else doesn't cut it.

Avoid this as if your life depended on it.
 

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Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 06-13-2003, 04:58 AM:
 
If you're forced to watch this piece of make sure you don't miss the 'bathroom' scene. I think it's in reel four.

Other than that, this movie blows.

At least they went all out and got a crappy lab to print this crappy film. Really, is it not possible to make one out of 10 lab splices without fogging the film for 25 feet?
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-13-2003, 08:47 AM:
 
AFAIK, NOT printed on Kodak film.
 

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Posted by Mike Olpin (Member # 1115) on 06-13-2003, 12:21 PM:
 
It's impossable to focus the trailer - Is the actual movie out of focus too?
 

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Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 06-13-2003, 12:40 PM:
 

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Really, is it not possible to make one out of 10 lab splices without fogging the film for 25 feet?

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Would this be where the image grows completely white before the splice in the middle and then fade back to the image? If so, I saw this effect three times in the first reel of the X-Files movie. I had never seen this happen before or since.
 

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 06-13-2003, 12:53 PM:
 
"Safelight" fog is usually magenta/cyan/blue in coloration (depends on the brand of film and the type of darkroom illumination used). If the print film had excessive exposure to the "safelight" during ultrasonic splicing of the raw stock, the fog usually spills across the full width of the image and soundtracks, and fades in/out depending upon how concentrated the illumination was. Fog can also occur on the head and tail leaders, as the film is threaded onto the printer. Or the wound rolls can be edgefogged by leaving them out under the safelights too long, usually just fogging the SDDS or Dolby Digital soundtrack area.

"White light" fog is usually yellow or brown in color, since the blue-sensitive layer of print film is so much faster than the other layers, forming yellow dye first.

Here is a link to a tutorial SMPTE Presentation I wrote about darkroom illumination:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/illumination/page01.blind

A clear area in the middle of a print may be due to a printer miscue or temporary failure of the printer light source, so the print film receives the wrong exposure:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/h1/printing.shtml
 

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Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 06-13-2003, 04:20 PM:
 
Reviews guys... start a thread in Yak if you want for the rest.
Yeah, I know, I started it.
 

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Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 06-13-2003, 08:31 PM:
 
Geez I thought If Bob Saget starred in a movie it would for sure be #1!
 

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Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 06-14-2003, 12:03 AM:
 
Bob Saget was the best part of the whole film. His part at the end wasn't too great but the scene upstairs is great.
 

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Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 06-14-2003, 10:24 AM:
 
Your right Brad I didn't see this movie (as I watched Holly Homicide instead). I have pretty much planned on avoiding this movie unless I had heard some good reviews. But It looks like I will never see this movie ever.
 

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Posted by Don Anderson (Member # 397) on 06-14-2003, 06:18 PM:
 
Bad.....is a kind word to describe this movie. How did ya like the black wax on his tooth??? Talk about low budget makeup effects. No one is laughing, and Hell...no one is coming to see it!
 

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Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 06-19-2003, 03:01 PM:
 
I went to a theatre last night with the intention of seeing "Dumb and Dumberer". The manager (who knows me) asked "Are you really sure you want to do that?" I ended up watching "The Matrix Reloaded" (which I hadn't yet seen). You know the movie has to be terrible when you go to a theatre to see it and get talked into seeing something else. Anyway, I'm glad I saw "The Matrix Reloaded". This is a first -- going to a theatre with the intention of seeing a movie and getting talked out of it. I'm going to (try to) see this one again because now I'm really curious as to how bad it really must me. Who knows? I'll probably like it.
 

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-20-2003, 02:56 AM:
 

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Hmmmmm, should I rephrase?
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 06-20-2003, 05:49 PM:
 
I had a feeling we wouldn't be playing this when I saw the trailer.

Sometimes, there is an advantage to only having one screen!
 

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Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 06-23-2003, 07:54 PM:
 
I couldn't resist putting this here. Credit Mr Cranky http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/dumbanddumberer.html

This is largely a rhetorical question, but what is it going to take for Hollywood to discover the meaning of the word "shame"? As sequels go, "Dumb and Dumberer" has suffered more body blows than one of Mike Tyson's blind dates. The original directors, the Farrelly brothers, dropped out. The original stars, Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels, dropped out. The anointed screenwriters, South Park's own Trey Parker and Matt Stone, fled the project despite the fact they would have earned roughly a million dollars per fart joke.
At this point, any self-respecting studio would take the project out behind the barn, feed it a couple of sugar cubes and then shoot it in the head. As projects go, it's a spontaneous abortion. It's a transporter accident. It's cloning gone horribly awry.

This isn't any self-respecting studio, however. It's New Line Cinema, and apparently someone, somewhere deep in the bowels of New Line had the courage to stand up and fight to ensure that "Dumb and Dumberer" would shine its light to inspire a weary world. So where do you turn when Plan A is in shambles and you just need some hack to toss your Chernobyl frog of a project over the fence into the public realm so you can go ahead and take the tax write-off? Apparently you turn to director Troy Miller. He's from TV. He's just happy to be here. According to the Internet Movie Database, his next project is a TV movie called "Knee High P.I."

You also turn to Eric Christian Olsen and Derek Richardson, who, fresh from that one corner where the day laborers gather each morning, play Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels respectively. They meet in high school and lead a band of like misfits to thwart a scheming principal (Eugene Levy) and his lunch lady love interest (Cheri Oteri). Bob Saget also makes an appearance, which makes this film a veritable hospice house for the terminally unfunny. At least the cast saved me the trouble of deliberating about the rating, as I just consulted the Mr. Cranky Scorecard instead: Bob Saget in a movie, add one bomb. Any Saturday Night Live alumna in a movie, add dynamite, call it a day.

Just in case you're still considering seeing this abomination, let me unroll the cinematic biohazard tape and warn you that we're treated to a glimpse of Cheri Oteri's ass. It's but a brief, horrible second, but those twin cheeks will forever be burned onto the back of my retinas in an afterimage of horror.

Everything about "Dumb and Dumberer" is cheap, substandard and ultimately contemptuous of its audience. You can see the piece of frayed electrical tape stuck on Lloyd's tooth to make it look chipped. One of Levy's first lines as the evil principal is "I tape record everything that happens in this office." Guess what proves to be his undoing? The climax of the movie, if you could call it that, happens during a Thanksgiving parade that eschews the posh setting of main street, and instead winds its way around a school running track while three bored extras in the "crowd" clap anemically. Levy's busted, and his last desperate act is to grab a check and run away with it. A check! You can stop payment on a check, you morons! Regardless, everyone runs after him as though it were a pouch stuffed with uncut diamonds.

As the credits roll, we see some outtakes featuring actors' gaffes and deleted scenes. That's right, there were actual scenes deemed less funny than the ones that ultimately made it into this film. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be included on the DVD (available next week, I suspect), which I'll rent only if it includes a commentary track from test audiences -- though it may be tough to hear the dialogue over the unmistakable sound of an angry mob setting a theater on fire.
 

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Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 06-26-2003, 01:56 PM:
 
Attendance: 2003/06/26 19:30, Carmike 10, Huntsville, AL, Auditorium 6, THX/DolbyDigital, Flat

OK, Folks. After reading all of the extremely negative reviews of this movie, I was determined to see this movie to see what all the fuss is about. I went to the local Carmike 10 last night and managed to buy a ticket without getting talked out of it by the theatre staff (something that foiled by first attempt to see it at another theatre ).

This movie is not great, but it isn't as bad as all of the reviews make it out to be. I've seen many comedies that I enjoyed less than this one. Lighten up a little, folks.

There were quite a few one-liners I'd like to remember from this movie, none of which I can remember now, except for "I hope the carpet matches the drapes". I'm going to have to start taking a pad an pencil to the theatres to write down one-liners I'd like to remember later.

The two main characters in this movie are so dumb and retarded that you want to hit them in the face with shovels. I'm really glad that Adam Sandler did not play the part of one of those dudes. That would have been unbearable.

The plot was very predictable with no real conflicts and no surprises. The two characters have one little falling out that lasts a very short time, and that's about it. At times, I was almost expecting a homosexual relationship to develop betweeen the two. I thought the "Chicks are for fags." line that got used several times was pretty funny. It made everyone laugh every time they said it.

There isn't really much in this movie that would make one want to see it a second time, although it would make a pretty good party movie for low-IQ guys in their teenage years or early 20s.

The credits contained some outtakes and deleted scenes. When these were over, the list of soundtrack songs was coming up. I don't think anyone left the auditorium before the credits finished (something that rarely happens). There were a total of 8 in the auditorium (me, two boy/girl couples, and one group of 3). All of the people in there looked to be in their early 20s, and were all very clean-looking, well-mannered, and friendly acting, and seemed to enjoy the show. I heard laughter on many occasions. These seemed to be college-aged people out to have a good time watching a dumb movie, like I've done many times to entertain myself.

The movie itself was presented perfectly, but the previews were all screwed up. The projector shut down seconds after being started. Between the first and second trailer, the machine switched from flat to scope and four trailers were played as scope even through they were flat. The machine changed back to flat in the middle of one of the trailers. The "Dolby" trailer was a scope one, played as flat, in analog, and the THX (robot that fixed the broken THX logo) trailer was covered with lots of black dirt specs, and even dropped out of digital once at the end! During trailer that was attached to reel 1, the machine stopped again. This showing was to start at 7:30, but the projector was started at 7:14. The machine may have been stopped the second time to make the show not start before 7:30. The LED screen at the box office gave two showtimes for this film: 7:00 and 7:30. The lighted signs with the posters only have a 7:10 showtime. There was a logistics problem here. Nobody missed any of the show because nobody showed up late (another rarity). This theatre is fortunate that I deduct a maximum of 2 points for problems during the previews that don't affect the movie itself.
 

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