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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-23-2005, 03:13 AM:
Pretty decent movie overall, but let me break it down.
quote:
SPOILERS AHEAD IN THESE QUOTE LINES.......
First 60ish minutes = the trailer. This means if you saw the trailer, feel free to arrive one hour late.
Next 30ish minutes = the good stuff with some nice twists.
Next 10ish minutes = really overdone forced gag-o-rama emotional bullshit happy ending with suitable music to boot. This starts the instant Jodie Foster is seen walking away from the plane revealing herself through dust and smoke. Typical Jerry Bruckheimer craptacular photography and mega-lame "she never did give up" comments thrown into the various audio channels.
Final 7 minutes = end credits
Overall it's one of the better movies out there right now. It just sucks that Buena Vista had to hire the same brain dead writers to do the 40 rewrites of the ending. Oh well.
3.5 out of 5 stars
By the way, look at the very first shot of Jodie Foster in this movie. It's creepy how much she looks like Michael Jackson!
Posted by Jason Whitlock (Member # 3077) on 09-23-2005, 06:34 AM:
I agree with you.. I would give it a 4 out of 5.. and I also think the ending was a bit lacking.. sort of 'Red Eye'-like where it seems that the producers were trying to finish the movie as quick as possible, skipping over a lot of details..
Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 09-24-2005, 07:49 PM:
First let me state that I love Jodi Foster.
I'm not sure I like this movie. Brad is right, or should it be stated that it's creepy that Michael Jackson looks like Jodi Foster. Also I think I'd like it very much if Jodi Foster stops the I'm distressed because my child is in danger movies. She might get that expression stuck on her face. I'm ready to see her play the cut-up, lesbian, mob mole or something. But one more movie with the look of abject fear and worry and I'm quiting.
Posted by Sam Graham (Member # 2889) on 09-25-2005, 03:46 PM:
CINEMA: Century 20 at Jordan Creek, West Des Moines, IA
AUDITORIUM: 12
PRESENTATION: Dolby Digital/THX
PRESENTATION PROBLEMS: None
RATING: Three stars (out of four)
WARNING: Spoilers take a left turn at Albuquerque
Wife #1: "Does this taste like Coke?"
Me: "No, it's Vanilla Coke."
"Oh! I knew that wasn't right."
"Did you order Vanilla Coke?"
"No."
"Are you taking it back?"
"No. I kind of like it."
"Okay."
Guess what I learned during the previews? Geisha girls are actually highly trained hoochie mama supermodel virgins. It's all a contrast, but it all makes sense. Who knew.
On the rare occasion that I see Jodie Foster pining after a man, (such as the scenes where she's imagining her husband), it disturbs me. It just doesn't look natural. It freaks me out, man. It's not that I envision her with women...I envision her not needing ANYONE. She's Jodie Foster. She'll kick your ass and leave you in a cloud of dust. Girl's got skills. She isn't NEEDY. Also, doesn't she look a little old to have a kid the age of six?
Pretty much everything else worked for me. I have to question the plausibility of the bad guys plotting this out and expecting Foster to play into things so perfectly. There was a LOT of room for error on paper. And the ending was a bit much. You KNOW if this happened in real life, the passengers would have been sitting there either justifying their original opinions, or muttering "Bitch should have stayed awake in the first place and none of this would have happened. Where the hell are we again? Is there a Starbucks near here? When are we taking off? The plane doesn't look THAT bad. Jet Blue landed safely just last week without front landing gear. Anybody got a Honda? We could tie it to the front end..."
But ultimately, yeah. It worked.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 09-25-2005, 07:33 PM:
Today at 2:35PM, Regal Cinema World 8 in Eugene, House #6, SR-D. Attendance around 50 or thereabouts. Anything that plays in analog sound folds into the left-screen channel (like that TV commercial for "My Name is Earl" and the Regal Crown Club snipe). There were 5 or 6 digital dropouts in the last reel and it was very distracting.
"She never gave up!"
Blech. Whoever came up with the idea for mixing that line into the audio at the end should be fired.
This movie doesn't suck, but I had some problems with it. The largest passenger aircraft in the world seems to have WAY too much "dead space" on it. Love those attractively-arranged and creatively-lit fiber optic patch panel racks. Jodie Foster worked on the design of the engines. Fine. But she also seems to be intimately familiar with the entire layout of the aircraft, as well as being an expert on the electrical system. The flight attendants are walking around the cabin during takeoff. It looked like they lifted off about 50 feet off the ground and cruised at that altitude for about 5 minutes. Bah.
The movie is not terrible. Jodie Foster is great (though she needs to do some other kind of role, stat). Only 2.5 out of 5 stars from me.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-25-2005, 10:58 PM:
quote: Brad Miller
...and mega-lame "she never did give up" comments thrown into the various audio channels.
quote: David Stambaugh
"She never gave up!"
Blech. Whoever came up with the idea for mixing that line into the audio at the end should be fired.
Hahaha, glad to see someone else agrees about how much that hurt the ending!
Posted by Carey Barber (Member # 1586) on 09-26-2005, 07:45 AM:
3 1/2 out of 5 stars
I thought this one was pretty good. Its definitely the best or one of the best playing at our theater right now.
Most elements of the film were done pretty well. The writing and direction was decent and the acting was very good. Jodie Foster did a fantastic job.
Spoilers ahead:
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My biggest complaint, as has been noted by others, is the rather implausible circumstances. No one would be able to pull this off in real life. Way too many variables and way too much margin for error.
What are the odds that Jodie Foster would do everything exactly like they planned? And no one ever saw the little girl, even when she was being kidnappped by a flight attendant?
And that flight attendant who started to have a guilty conscience- Didn't she already know what would have to be done? Now she suddenly starts feeling bad?
And Jodie Foster, in addition to knowing engines, is apparently also a bomb expert because she knew those explosives would only blow up the small part of the plane where the bad guy was.
But, if you suspend disbelief a little bit, this is a pretty good movie. The ending was a little rushed and a lot sappy, but that's what people like.
Its nice to see a talented actress instead of just some dumb broad that looks good but couldn't play dead. Let's take back Halle Berry's Oscar and give it to Jodie.
Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 09-26-2005, 03:48 PM:
I pretty much agree with all the other comments here. Nothing special, but overall very good. 3.87567/5
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-28-2005, 08:38 PM:
Separated at birth???
Posted by Jennifer Pan (Member # 2035) on 09-28-2005, 08:59 PM:
DAMN, you're right. Maybe that was the look the costume designers were looking for. I bet at the time of filming the trial was going on.
[ 09-29-2005, 02:18 AM: Message edited by: Jennifer Pan ]
Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 09-29-2005, 06:38 AM:
If they were really seperated at birth, she would have found that kid really quick.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 09-29-2005, 07:53 AM:
Good movie, but...
* * * * * SPOILERS AHEAD * * * * *
Why didn't she just use the radio when she locked herself in the cockpit?
And my nomination for the stupidest-where'd-that-come-from-line goes to:
"It's not like she lost a Palm Pilot."
[ 09-29-2005, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: Mark J. Marshall ]
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 09-30-2005, 02:39 PM:
I don't know what movie you guys were watching but I thought this was aweful. It got as ridiculous with the fight sequences as Red Eye only Red Eye knew it was being ridiculous where this was trying to be serious.
SPOILER WARNING....
So many things made absolutely no sense but by far the thing that ruined the movie completely was the LAME politically correct terror threat. She demands that you LAND the plane and LET ALL THE PEOPLE OFF and then she's gonna blow it up??????? That was the most retarded threat I've ever seen. Once the people were all off they'd just say "who cares" because the insurance would cover the plane anyway.
And the air marshall/criminal was a complete idiot. All he needs is the pilot to tell him some confirmation number and he believes the money is transferred. He doesn't ever check it.
And more PC BS. The arab guy slams Jodie foster into an armrest and doesn't get arrested. HUH???
I never knew the FBI had jurisdiction in Newfoundland, CANADA.
It's also good to know that the plane was so advanced that it didn't need a radar in the nose and that the wall between the avionics bay and the cargo hold is blast proof.
And how about that avionics bay. It looked like Scotty's engine room from star trek or something. I sincerely hope that access to the avionics bay in a real plane isn't as simple as going into a closet.
I thought this movie was boring, stupid and completely unbelievable. I can suspend disbelief for certain things but this movie was out of control.
1/2 star out of 5
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-03-2005, 11:19 PM:
This film easily gets the "Grainiest Film" award of the year from me. The grain was so annoying to me that I got up and left after about 10 min of watching... glad I didn't pay to see this one. Grain ruined what was supposedly a good film! Where was JP when this was being shot? Bet he was busy hosting a seminar on good filming habits when utilizing the Super 35 format. Its all too obvious that the DP didn't attend! At least the Cineplex I saw this at had tack sharp focus so its apparent with this film that the operators were doing their job...
The analog track was pretty good though
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Mark
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 10-08-2005, 12:15 PM:
I liked the fact that the trailer didn't give away the whole plot, unlike most films of this type.
The lighting in all the various underbelly areas of the plane was what disturbed me. I seriously doubt that all those areas would be fully lit in flight.
But, as a thriller it worked for me. I didn't really care about the implausible details, I was sucked into the story because I truly didn't know how it was going to turn out. So it was a good movie experience for me. 4 out of 5 stars.
Posted by John Pommon (Member # 648) on 10-08-2005, 04:18 PM:
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
This film easily gets the "Grainiest Film" award of the year from me.
My DLP experience was just the opposite. There was Zero grain, exceptional color balance of the [fake stretched Boeing 777 sets]
but the clarity was perfect. Perhaps the focus could be
a hair sharper. That was the only difference which disappeared
after a moment . . I easily made the adjustment
[I would have liked to see a new film-print just afterward.]
I thought the begining could have been a little simpler to follow.
Major Spoiler ahead!
. . . the audience is aware that the explosive C-4 will vaporize her in the explosion. Yet Kyle is not clear what the degree of the explosion will be. but is willing to gamble her life & daughter's by chancing that an unknown bomb's force will blow up just area where the a sky-marshall is . .separated only partitioned by a fire door . . major huh!
I think timing would have been more realistic if she was 1st seen coming down the stairs after the smoke clears than already being on tarmac.
Otherwise ALL the characters' performances made it worth the trek to see it. The music arrangement was perfect.
[ 10-09-2005, 03:54 AM: Message edited by: John Pommon ]
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-10-2005, 11:43 PM:
quote: John Pommon
My DLP experience was just the opposite. There was Zero grain, exceptional color balance of the [fake stretched Boeing 777 sets]
Considering that the grain was so large it was probably hidden by the facct that each grain was the size of a single pixel of the DLP chip......
Mark
Posted by John Pommon (Member # 648) on 10-11-2005, 02:23 AM:
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
each grain was the size of a single pixel of the DLP chip......
amazingly . . . each pixel on a DMD chip is a reflective mirror.
. . . tilting micromirrors, rapidly spinning color wheels &
high def optical discs . . . it's all Greek to me. . .
I want my intermittant!!! Film may be down but will never be out.
Has anyone experienced "the rainbow effect". Basically, the "rainbow effect" is a brief flash of colors (like a small rainbow) when the viewer rapidly looks from side to side on the screen or looks rapidly from the screen to side of the room. Fortunately, this does not occur frequently and many people do not have sensitivity to this effect at all.
I did not see this during the Flightplan DLP projection.
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 10-11-2005, 07:56 AM:
Nor will you, since the rainbow effect is a signature of single-imager projection devices. Theatrical DLP machines are all three-imager devices, and thus do not have color wheels and the attendant rainbow effect.
Posted by John Pommon (Member # 648) on 10-11-2005, 03:30 PM:
no wonder I couldn't see it - there's no pro like an old pro,
appreciate the facts.
Thanks Paul
Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 10-15-2005, 02:30 PM:
It was OK. You won't get bored. But the final third is a letdown after the good setup.
Posted by Rob Ferreira (Member # 3406) on 10-17-2005, 04:36 AM:
I didn't even find the set-up that amazing with this film. I wasn't shocked when {
SPOILERS AHEAD!
} the air marshall turned out to be in on any of it. Or the flight attendant. Nothing about this movie was a suprise. And as a friend of mine said after watching this film: "After a half hour of searching, I didn't care whether the girl was real, imaginary, or sipping cocktails on a beach in Tijuana."
I very much enjoy Jodie Foster, and she does have a knack for making good (mostly) films. Out of all the movies playing at my theatre right now, this is the one I reccomend; but that doesn't mean it was anything to write home about either.
*** out of 5
Posted by Robert Burtcher (Member # 3227) on 10-18-2005, 10:53 AM:
Isn't this like the second or third movie starring Jodie Foster in which she loses her kid and goes psycho trying to get him/her back?
Someone should call the DHS on that woman, geez.
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