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Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 12-18-2017, 05:14 AM:
 
This entry into the Star Wars trilogy of trilogies was just OK to me. It was way too long. They could have easily cut a half an hour (including 90% of the scenes involving Finn) and it would have made no difference at all to the plot.

Having just re-watched "The Force Awakens," Harrison Ford is sorely missed in this one. I also think that the direction that they took the character of Luke Skywalker was terrible. He just doesn't fit with the way he was portrayed in the original trilogy. I guess people can change throughout their lives but this was a complete personality shift.

It isn't difficult to avoid spoilers because nothing of much significance to the overall story arc of the trilogy really happens. It's like they tried to parallel "The Empire Strikes Back" but forgot to include any major revelations.

I saw it in Dolby Atmos and have to say that while there are a few cool surround effects throughout the movie, it probably isn't worth paying extra for. I didn't realize that AMC built a new theatre with Dolby Cinema 20 minutes away from my house until it was too late to get decent tickets. Unfortunately, the movie wasn't good enough to go see again (especially not for a premium price) to check out the Dolby Vision part of it.

Overall, I'd say 2 1/2 stars out of 5. It was watchable but you definitely feel the running time.

Hopefully, with JJ Abrams back at the helm the final installment will be better. With his propensity for time travel plots, maybe he can find a way to bring Han Solo back.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-18-2017, 11:59 AM:
 
I have a feeling that Han Solo was killed off because Harrison Ford didn't WANT to do another one. He reportedly had asked to be killed off in one of the three original trilogy movies, I'm not sure which one.

I enjoyed the movie but I agree it was a little flat. I thought the running time and pacing was fine, (I didn't find myself getting bored) but I was wishing the main characters would be together on the screen more often.

The revelation of who Rey's parents are was one of the flat moments. It didn't have the impact of the "I am your father" scene in "Empire" -- I suppose a lot of people were banking on something like that happening, and the movie goes a different direction. This movie needed some profound scene like that to make it great. But if it DID happen, then people would have been griping that this film was just treading old ground. I still think there is more to that angle of the story that hasn't been told yet.

It's true that Finn could have mostly been edited out and not affected the overall plot. Which was a surprise to me -- I thought he was going to become more important to the story, not less. Again, maybe there's more to his story for the next installment.

I was disappointed in Carrie Fisher's scenes during the battle segments. She clearly couldn't raise her voice beyond much of a whisper, which was too bad. Her reunion meet-up with Hamill was one of my favorite bits of the movie, but other than that....well I hate to say it but I think the next movie will be better off without her, as long as they figure out a graceful and meaningful way to handle her exit.

I agree with Lyle about the direction of Luke Skywalker's character. I suppose it's part of the story that he's become cynical and grouchy in his old age, but I was hoping once he "returned" to the story he'd also return to his former, smartassy self. Sadly that didn't happen. He did a fine job with his scenes as they were, but I was expecting him to add to the "fun" angle of the movie and he didn't.

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The battle scenes were terrific, and the new character Rose, played by Kelly Marie, was my favorite character in the movie. I thought the sound mix was outstanding. Nice thumping bass, good use of the surrounds.

Anyway, "flat" though it may have been, it did provide a good leadup for Episode IX which if they follow all the right threads, should be an outstanding movie with J.J. Abrams at the helm. PROVIDED THEY MAKE IT AN ENDING OF THE TRILOGY, AND NOT JUST A DUMB LEAD-IN TO THE NEXT TRILOGY.

3 out of 5 stars for me. My wife also enjoyed it, and for her not being a Star Wars fan, that was surprising.
 
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 12-18-2017, 02:45 PM:
 
In response to the spoiler part of Mike's review:

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-18-2017, 06:43 PM:
 
You are right, I totally forgot about that. However, that said, I still think the same thing I mentioned in my spoiler COULD happen in the next movie.
 
Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 12-18-2017, 08:00 PM:
 
I read an article yesterday where they were talking about The Last Jedi suffering from a problem common in video games where they send characters off on so many subplots that it distracts from the main point of the story. Although I really enjoyed Last Jedi, I can see this point. Especially the whole subplot that sends Finn off on a mission. This could have been eliminated and cut down the run time.
 
Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 12-20-2017, 01:14 AM:
 
They didn't really answer many questions and left a LOT of loose ends for the final movie. Anyone else thinking that Disney might try to break the final episode into two parts? After the Han Solo movie there is no more announced Star Wars "Stories" so they can easily do Episode 9 pt 1 and then Episode 9 pt 2 in consecutive years. Too much of a cash cow for then to at least not consider it.
 
Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 12-20-2017, 04:06 PM:
 
If you don't like spoilers ,do not read this review.

Saw it at Regal atlantic Station's RPX theater. I wonder if I should ask for my money back since the picture brightness seemed dim and I noticed it for the last couple of movies I saw in this theater. Espcially compared to the IMAX presentations. Since they promise the absolute best presentation guarantee, maybe I should call them out on that and get a refund.

Getting to be middle aged, it is sad that I can not longer be jazzed up the by the opening crawl that enthralled me with anticipation in the past or even for A Force Awakens. Like the prequels these are perfectly decent movies and I actually didn't mind the humor used early in the movie. But they go so overboard with the Jedi mystique, it suffers from the same issues as the superhero movies. Too many powers and you wonder how the hell do they even die? And if they die, does it even matter much since they can obviously come back and interact with others normally.

As far as this movie, if I had no attachment to the original series, it is a decent piece of entertainment. But come on. once they knew Carrie Fisher died. and watch out SPOILER ensue, they should have reedited the ending of this movie.

They set it up so that Leia is the main old guard anchoring the final segment. And they have already said they will not CGI her at all. How the hell are they going to explain her departure? Just a reference in dialog "Oh , she is gone to a better place"?
The way they disposed off these characters with no much mourning or reflective scenes by other characters who suffered their loved ones leaving as even less emotion than when Luke stands by Darth Vader's funeral pyre in ROTJ.

This is what I would have done. I would have rewritten the ending once Fisher died(not that I was thrilled with it even if she lived). Luke lives for sure. I remove the scene of him vanishing into thin air. I then put in an epilogue of Carrie Fisher reflecting on all the losses. She had plenty of scenes where all she does is stare somberly. I am sure they could find some footage in the editing metaphorical floor where they could use unused footage for this. They mix it in with some reflections of Han, her son, and Luke. She goes to bed in a long shot (use body double here). Then she lays down old lady Titanic movie ending style (yes, it is corny, but you cannot have an anonymous send off to one of the main characters, so this is the best I got) and passes on because she feels she can pass on (makes beautiful symmetry with her real life mom dying the same way) knowing the rebel alliance is in good hands. Boom , you take care of it now instead of coming up with some clumsy explanation in Ep 9 and you also give yourself a chance to use the last remaining big actor from the original series in Ep 9.(sorry Billy Dee, you were cool and all, but you were not one of the big 3 in that).

So we go into Ep 9 without any of the big three and we probably will be subject to a lot of Luke as a freaking ghost type scenes advising the Keira Knightly look alike woman.

Oh, and the Leia using her force to move her unconscious self back into the ship from open space where she obviously has superman like body immune from getting destroyed in space visually looked so campy that i started to laugh.

Only redeeming thing was the movie never bored me. I still like Adam Driver as an actor . Nice to see Benicio back in a big movie. Finn had more personality in this movie than the opening one.
 
Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 12-20-2017, 04:12 PM:
 
quote: Michael Gonzalez
After the Han Solo movie there is no more announced Star Wars "Stories" so they can easily do Episode 9 pt 1 and then Episode 9 pt 2 in consecutive years.
Disney is developing an Obi Wan movie, but no release date has been set. My understanding is Ewan McGregor wants to reprise the role.
 
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 12-20-2017, 07:47 PM:
 
A friend of mine who is a very hardcore Star Wars fan said he was basically repulsed by the movie’s use of inappropriate campy “humor”.
 
Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 12-21-2017, 05:18 AM:
 
quote:
A friend of mine who is a very hardcore Star Wars fan said he was basically repulsed by the movie’s use of inappropriate campy “humor”.
I'm not a hardcore fan but I can see where he is coming from. There is a huge difference between Han Solo's subtle one liners and the opening "phone call" between Poe and the First Order ship.

Star Wars is not about over the top, in your face jokes. The Jedi training joke, if it was the only one in the movie, would have been OK had they not made Luke into a grumpy old man. Once they did that, it makes him pulling a prank out of place for his new personality.
 
Posted by Sam Graham (Member # 2889) on 12-21-2017, 06:44 PM:
 
CINEMA: Warren East, Wichita, KS
AUDITORIUM: 14, Seat G15
PRESENTATION: Warren GRAND Auditorium with Regal Roller Coaster Vision
PRESENTATION PROBLEMS: Chatty woman next to me (aka "my sister")
RATING: One and one half stars (out of four)

THE PLOT: Voldemort and Snape hunt down what's left of the resistance. Wackiness ensues.

God this was boring. No fun at all. WAY too long. This damn thing felt longer than that Blade Runner sequel. It wasn't dumb, but it was painful.

Every time Kylo Ren appears on screen, I SO want to hear Morrissey music playing under him.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-21-2017, 11:02 PM:
 
quote: Pravin Ratnam
Then she lays down old lady Titanic movie ending style (yes, it is corny, but you cannot have an anonymous send off to one of the main characters, so this is the best I got)
I'll bet they thought of doing that, but here's why they didn't: This gives them a huge hook to pull people in to Ep IX. They already had plenty of hooks for VIII....mainly, Luke S.

I also expect Adam Driver to have the absolute shit beaten out of him in IX and wind up wearing a Vader-like suit/mask. That's what this one lacked, a bad guy in a mask.

I didn't mind the humor bits, in fact we laughed out loud at the on-hold joke. Sure it's not as good as the classic stuff, but nothing ever is -- with movies these days, to have humor you usually need some sort of bathroom / fart / shit / getting-your-dick-stuck-in-a-blender thing to get a laugh, followed by a bunch of R-rated language.
 
Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 12-22-2017, 10:26 PM:
 
I dont think Leia's death handling will be much of a hook for part 9 because there supposedly are no plans to use CGI or standins for her to deliver any dialog. If all they wll do is explain how she dies, they might as well have wrapped up her death in part 8.

Also, the idiots should have just taken out the original ending for Luke once Fisher died. I would have liked to have seen a bigger role for Hamill in part 9.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-23-2017, 11:06 PM:
 
quote: Pravin Ratnam
If all they wll do is explain how she dies, they might as well have wrapped up her death in part 8.
That's the hook....the explanation. Everybody will be at a fever pitch to find out how it's handled.

I fully expect Hamill will be back in some form or another....he'll be a hologram, a ghost, a dream sequence or something. Hardly any major character ever stays completely dead in Star Wars, unless they're bad guys. (I was a little surprised not to see a Han Solo cameo in this one.)

One thing I think we can all agree on... when it comes to Star Wars, a certain percentage of fans will hate anything they do, no matter what. If Luke had gone right back to being his old happy-go-lucky self they'd have complained about THAT, saying "his character should have been less happy having been exiled for 30 years."

What's strange to me is, they all KNOW they're going to hate anything new, so why don't they just ignore the new stuff and keep watching Episodes IV, V and VI over and over?
 
Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 12-27-2017, 07:19 PM:
 
quote:
A friend of mine who is a very hardcore Star Wars fan said he was basically repulsed by the movie’s use of inappropriate campy “humor”.
I don't understand.
He went to Rekall the other day and had his memory wiped out and never heard about Jar Jar?

And what about the original episodes 4 - 6? The whole thing between Solo and Leia isn't campy? What about the many R2 jokes? Or the Solo character in general? Ewoks? C3PO?
 
Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 12-28-2017, 10:46 AM:
 
Me neither. The whole thing has always been campy and goofy, maybe what they're really tired of is the whole thing getting milked to death.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-28-2017, 12:35 PM:
 
They can milk it all they want, as long as they turn out good movies that are crowd pleasers. That's what James Bond has been doing and nobody's complaining about that.

I'm glad Disney took it over and not some other studio. At least Disney knows how to work a franchise properly.

The naysayers and haters, like I said, should just keep watching the first three movies and pretend the rest of it doesn't exist, for maximum happiness.
 
Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 12-28-2017, 04:34 PM:
 
I'm neither a hater nor die-hard, some of them seem pretty good, I just think it's kind of funny when the hard-core folks act as though they're not campy. They always were to me, and I kind of enjoyed that. I mean these "stormtroopers" are either issued the most cumbersome suits to run in ever invented, or they can't see, or they get no weapons training.....
 
Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 12-28-2017, 05:38 PM:
 
My point was, indeed, there has always been campy humor in Star Wars. And to be honest, I liked the one in this one.

Luke throwing away the light saber, the "prank call" at the beginning and the scene with Luke and "the Force" were all pretty hilarious.

I guess it is all part of the Star Wars experience. The campy humor combined with something that's otherwise actually a pretty dark story, in which billions upon billions die right in front of your eyes.

Personally, I liked this one much better than The Force Awakens. This one had more an "Episode 5" feel to it and the setup to the story was pretty similar.

The last installment was too light on the story side and never really felt like Star Wars to me. At least for me this episode has much more of the original Star Wars vibe.
 
Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 7758) on 01-02-2018, 08:09 PM:
 
My family and I landed in Hollywood's Cinerama Dome over the weekend and finally had a chance to see Ep. 8. We thoroughly enjoyed the film and were quite grateful that nobody had revealed spoilers. For all the complaints, we all found it spectacular and quite satisfying - 3.5 out of 4 stars - and certainly the best performance of Mark Hamill's career. Maybe Laura Dern as well, who I've always struggled to find believable.

Arclight's Dome presentation was stunning. The 4K laser visuals are crisp and bright to a fault because it makes everything else look bad. I dare say 70mm film could not match what we saw. (Please, someone prove me wrong.) Our only quibble is the new smile-shaped masking at the bottom of the screen. In years past, I'm assuming film presentation involved custom apertures with a little narrowing in the mid-top and mid-bottom of the image to compensate for the greater distance of the middle of the curved screen. Now you have no cropping (good) but also the entire image in the shape of a gentle arc. (Please, please, no jokes about the name of the place.) So the whole image "smiles" a bit on either side. As annoying as this seemed at first, we eventually forgot about it. Mostly.
 
Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 01-02-2018, 10:52 PM:
 
Got bored and saw it tonight. It is what it wants to be. Didn't find it boring, but was constantly thinking that it's a good thing physics is only a local phenomenon.

The real reason I'm posting is that I saw it at the New Visions Chantilly 13 in their Big D theatre. Despite the theatre going through two hands (AMC and New Vision) and the signage all saying new vision, the opening tag still says Carmike Presents. How tough is it to get a new snipe these days.
Of course, maybe they didn't want to be associated with the presentation. The sound was fine, it was impossible to escape the inescapable John Williams bombast. But the picture. Jeez 7fl at best. The night scenes, which must have gone one for a half an hour, were only illuminated by the green exit lights. Unless the D in Big D stands for Dim, this is truly embarrassing. Upside, it was cheap Tuesday and there was almost nobody there to bug me.
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 01-02-2018, 11:33 PM:
 
I don't give New Vision a long life expectancy. Here in Lawton they took over the little Central Mall 12-plex theater formerly run by Dickinson Theaters, Hollywood Theaters, Starplex Theaters, Showplex Theaters and finally AMC. Then AMC took over Lawton's two Carmike locations on the West side of town. New Vision started selling beer at the Central Mall theater. They gotta do more to get me to visit, starting with getting out of the mall and building a proper theater.

But I don't get the impression New Vision is about building new theaters and bringing something substantial to the movie going experience. If I recall correctly the folks behind New Vision are just yet another hedge fund company. They'll collect enough theaters and hopefully sell them to one of the largest remaining theater chains for a quick profit.

Anyway, regarding Star Wars: The Last Jedi, my girlfriend and I watched it this past weekend at our local AMC/former Carmike Patriot 13 theater on the big IMAX-branded screen. My rating for it: 2.5 stars out of 4.

I got into a bad mood just getting into the theater. AMC recently changed the ticket sales and seating model for the IMAX screen into reserved seating on its web site. But apparently they didn't let much of the local staff in on this change.. I reserved 2 of the most dead-center seats in the auditorium. Lo and behold a whole family group of people were spread across that row, including the seats we reserved. Luckily the next row up had seats in the center of the row. Still, I was pissed off our seats were taken. Normally when you buy reserved seat tickets you get the illusion you don't have to get to the theater way early to claim your seats. You can get there just before showtime. It's a good thing we got there early anyway. Otherwise we would have been off to the edge (or I would have just been getting a damned refund from management for not keeping my fucking seats reserved).

I wanted to like the movie more, but I found it really annoying for how it carbon-copied the story foundation for Empire Strikes Back, copied parts of Return of the Jedi but without executing the homage very well. We have Luke training Rey just like Yoda trained Luke, just not as entertaining and memorable. We have a giant imperial star destroyer following the other cast members, like Vader's ship following the Millenium Falcon, but stretching the "chase" out over way the hell too much of the movie. They should have taken the story more places than this. It just felt too thin.

The movie had some cool visuals and "effects." I'm not sure if CGI can really qualify as "visual effects" anymore. It's just CGI. As long as it's well designed, modeled and rendered realistic enough then that's fine. These days it takes some great visual design and composition for CGI to affect me in any positive way these days. Otherwise I just feel like I'm watching a cartoon.

Speaking of which: those dog/cat animals late in the movie. Someone called them "crystal critters." I immediately laughed. Those penguin "porgs" were goofy and stupid enough for the attempt at being ewoks. But "crystal critters" sounds like an all male dance review designed to compete with the Chippendales. Of course, I'm still laughing at the "Snoke" name of the big villain. I keep thinking of the South Park episode where terrorists had hidden a nuclear bomb in Hillary Clinton's vagina -they called it a "snuke."

Some of the character actions seemed a bit contrived or forced.
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I kind of wanted to drive up to OKC to watch this movie on either of the Dolby Atmos equipped theater screens up there. But I'm kind of glad I didn't spend the extra money on fuel, tolls, etc to get up there.
 
Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 01-12-2018, 01:57 PM:
 
other than the appalling bad - green exit sign bouncing back a ton of ancillary light onto the lower right hand corner of the screen (RPX screen / Syracuse NY, Destiny USA Regal theater), I quite enjoyed this movie.

Loved the use of silence at that moment when ... oh you know when, apparently AMC theaters and fellow patrons got all bent out of shape when they thought the audio system did a monumental glitch causing the audio dropping out, nope that was a creative decision on the sound design team - Bravo!

I am hopefully going to check this out again next week, but this time in IMAX-laser/3D/12-channel sound
 
Posted by Mark Campbell (Member # 4411) on 01-12-2018, 08:06 PM:
 
...and Chewie doing a Tarzan call in ROTJ!

3 stars out of 4 for me. Nice to see Hamill acting!
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-13-2018, 12:23 AM:
 
Well I never would have guessed it.... "The Last Jedi" managed to sell more tickets in our theater than "The Force Awakens" did.

It did not gross quite as many dollars because we didn't have any 3-D shows this time, but we had more butts in the seats. Even more surprising, week 4 out-grossed week 3 by several dozen tickets. This might have been because the weather during week 3 was pretty unpleasant over the weekend.

So I'm even more of a believer that a good movie CAN play 4 weeks in a small town. We've got 3 Star Wars movies under our belts now that prove it.
 
Posted by Carsten Kurz (Member # 5396) on 01-13-2018, 09:01 AM:
 
I saw SW8 twice on our own screen. Once on the opening night, and a second time last week to confirm my attitude towards it.

I saw the original triple when I was a young boy, thus the only humor allowed is Han's.
I was a bit disappointed about the Empire Strikes Back because it was too 'episodic', I preferred a more complete plot, without people heading off at the end towards the next one, but for as long as the movie was rolling, I loved it.

'The Return Of The Jedi' - well, it was a necessary experience, finishing up the story then. I liked the grown up seriousness of Luke (of course, overacting by todays standards, but I was still young then and able to take it serious). Ewoks, oh my...

Unlike many, 17 years later, I enjoyed 'The Phantom Menace' (even with, but not because of, Jar Jar Binks in it). The whole Jedi thing in 'Phantom Menace' worked out nicely for me, adding something to the existing universe. The faster laser sword action was awesome at the time, and still is by todays standards, the introduction of the Sith aspect, and the retro-SciFi set design was well done. Plus, there was actually a plot, not just people and things being moved around...

I did not enjoy 'Attack Of The Clones' much, other things aside, it looked like a cheap video production.

'Revenge of the Sith', and that means something, I did not even bother to watch at a cinema. If I remember right, even until today, I have not yet seen it in one go from start till end. I recently bought the triple episode 1-3 bluray for my nephews, and may have a go with them.

'The Force Awakens' - it was okay

I loved 'Rogue One' - that took me back right where the thing started for me as a young boy in 1978 - the visuals were great, picking up from the original Star Wars, the story was straight and not filled with unnecessary gadgets hiding a weak plot. If it was for me, SW7-SW9 should have been done in 'Rogue One' style.

'The last Jedi' - and I needed to see it twice to actually believe my own impression, is a total loss. I think there is not a single scene in it that catches me. Not that I was constantly annoyed, I just didn't feel any fun in it.

If at all, I was attracted by the score, as I still am by the original soundtrack. The original soundtrack double LP was the first vinyl I bought from my own money, and later the double CD edition was the first CD I ever bought. I still own both and will never part from them.

'Campy humor'? Not for me, this is serious business...

- Carsten
 
Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 01-13-2018, 10:05 AM:
 
Many people on this forum will have some pretty strong emotions when it comes down to Star Wars, whether it concerns the original trilogy, the prequels or the new Star Wars movies. In the end, it comes down to this: There is simply no way in hell, anybody could come up with THE perfect Star Wars sequel, but I guess that's pretty obvious in itself.

Regarding The Last Jedi, which I've seen twice by now, the opinions seem to be even much sharper than on the previous sequel.

Personally, I found The Force Awakens pretty boring and bland. Hey, another, even bigger Death Star. Hey, another bad guy torn towards the dark side and aptly dressed in black. Hey, another bunch of hopeless renegades serving as the last hope for the galaxy. And... hey, another predictable story line.

Despite the many obvious plot holes and free-form fantasy physics and (almost) redundant sub-plots, I found this installment to be more entertaining than the last one. I think the reason is, because this one almost dared to go, where no other Star Wars movie has gone before (and no, it's not franchise-crossover [Wink] ).

The campy humor... I didn't have a bad feeling about it and neither did the characters in the movie. The stoic, reclusive Skywalker character, which everybody seemed to hate... well, I somehow liked him. He seemed to have gotten a better understanding of the Force than thousands of years of Jedi knowledge did bring forward. And what did you expect from that character? He was living on one of the most remote planets in the universe, not really in the mood to be found either. Did we expect him to receive some random girl from nowhere with open arms?

And what about those fluffy penguin birds? At least they weren't a plot driver like the Ewoks.

And last but not least, there's the most awesome looking destruction scene in the whole of Star Wars ever. No matter it raises like a million new questions, but damn, maybe it was simply worth it.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-13-2018, 01:16 PM:
 
quote: Marcel Birgelen
I found The Force Awakens pretty boring and bland. Hey, another, even bigger Death Star. Hey, another bad guy torn towards the dark side and aptly dressed in black. Hey, another bunch of hopeless renegades serving as the last hope for the galaxy. And... hey, another predictable story line.
These kind of sentiments may be what's driving the idea behind the trilogy that's coming up after this current trilogy ends. They're saying it's going to explore a different corner of the galaxy, so to speak. I wonder if they'll tie any of the current characters into it at all, or go in a completely different direction? Will it start off with "Episode X" or will it be a new beginning?

I was a big fan of "Rogue One" too and I am looking forward to "Solo" later this spring.
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 01-13-2018, 08:33 PM:
 
I heard Disney is planning an Obi Wan movie too.

As long the Mouse House is busy trying to squeeze every last nickel about the Star Wars franchise the least thing they could do for fans (and cash in big time while doing so) is release new Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray versions of the original trilogy without all the silly special edition footage.
 
Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 01-14-2018, 09:01 AM:
 
quote: Mike Blakesley
These kind of sentiments may be what's driving the idea behind the trilogy that's coming up after this current trilogy ends. They're saying it's going to explore a different corner of the galaxy, so to speak. I wonder if they'll tie any of the current characters into it at all, or go in a completely different direction? Will it start off with "Episode X" or will it be a new beginning?
It's clear that Disney, with their multi-billion investments into Star Wars isn't going to hold of. They're building two massive new themed areas in both of their theme park resorts in the U.S. and are pumping millions into Star Wars related makeovers in their other parks.

Compared to what they're making off all the Star Wars merchandise, the box office results of those movies are almost secondary, they're mostly there to keep the train rolling.

Rogue One was definitely one of the more original, almost refreshing off-shoots from the Star Wars franchise, although it was still strictly within the parameters of the official cannon and the Star Wars universe as we know it. It would be great to have some parallel story lines, which unwind in this vast galaxy. Something that still feels like Star Wars and is connected to this universe, but something that indeed doesn't recycle old characters and concepts. They might put the Force a little on the back-burner.

quote: Bobby Henderson
As long the Mouse House is busy trying to squeeze every last nickel about the Star Wars franchise the least thing they could do for fans (and cash in big time while doing so) is release new Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray versions of the original trilogy without all the silly special edition footage.
Apparently, the only negatives that currently exist are those of the special editions. But the stuff they've spliced out apparently still remains.

So, restoring the original cuts seemingly takes quite some work and efforts. Disney is apparently still convinced that a re-release will not pay for the restoration work needed.

The best hope will probably be one of the bootleg 1080p restoration projects currently being undertaken by fans. Unfortunately, it will be impossible to run them on a big screen...
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-14-2018, 10:39 PM:
 
quote: Bobby Henderson
I heard Disney is planning an Obi Wan movie too.
I've seen mentions of a Yoda movie, and a Boba Fett movie too.

TLJ topped our attendance list for 2017. When compiling our annual list, I include movies based on the year they opened in -- but with this show, even disregarding the sales after 1/1/18 it would still be #1 for the year by a couple dozen tickets.

Even more impressive, it is #6 on our all-time attendance list (which goes back to 1979). Not bad, considering nobody goes to the movies anymore.
 




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