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Posted by Marc Jones (Member # 29) on 07-05-2000, 06:04 PM:
What do you like better Popcorn Bags or tubs.
Have you noticed if sell more Popcorn if your using bags or tubs.
Has any one found a bag manufacture that can make a bag that doesn't leak.
Thanks
Marc Jones
Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 07-05-2000, 07:02 PM:
Ah an old topic.I like the tub, but...
We use the bags for environmental, cost and trash hauling cost conciderations.
Don't butter the sides of the bags and don't over butter.
Posted by Mark Huff (Member # 480) on 07-05-2000, 07:36 PM:
We serve the famous Tub in a 170oz. It is out X-Tra large size and our customers love them. When we first started the Tubs we sold more than all other sizes combined. Customers seem to love the old style. We also made it easy to upsell them by charging .25 cents more than the large.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-05-2000, 07:52 PM:
Tubs, definitely! I'm reasonably confident that the manufacturers have solved the "leaky bag" problem, but I've personally had several unfortunate experiences in the past and so am wary of the bags. I'm sure that many customers feel the same way.
More importantly, bags take longer to fill than tubs (though I'm told that there's a special scooper gadget that makes filling bags easier), they look bigger, and are easier for the customers to handle without spilling popcorn all over the ground.
I do agree that tubs are a problem if you're paying by volume for garbage collection, but I also believe that the tubs sell better and speed up the concession line significantly, though I have no hard data to prove this.
Posted by Richard C. Wolfe (Member # 431) on 07-05-2000, 09:29 PM:
TUBS for sure.Our largest is the 86 oz. for $2.50
I can't imagine selling a 170 oz. tub. People don't finish the 86, and spill half of it on the floor. As for trash...we stack all of our cups, and therefore can put hundreds of them in a typical trashbag.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-06-2000, 03:47 AM:
YES. Tubs!Bags are bad for all the reasons listed above. Gotta be careful not to overbutter the popcorn and then you must deal with the customers who want extra butter explaining why you cannot do it. THEN you must end up paying for their clothes as the butter seeps through the bottom of the bag! Cleanup is far easier and even just consuming popcorn in a bucket is easier than in a bag. How many times are bags found torn into little pieces on the floor delaying cleaning time because the patrons kept tearing layers of the bag away to they could easily get at the popcorn in the lower part of the bag?
Bags are just one of those ideas that look great on paper but suck in the real world.
Posted by Lance C. McFetridge (Member # 95) on 07-06-2000, 01:22 PM:
Bags all the way!!!! :P Ok, well not all the way, we sell a 170 oz and make a killing off of it. We have never had tubs other than this size so our client base is used to the bags. I agree that trash is a major concern. Most trash removal companies size the dumpster by the cubic yard, hence the more trash, the higher the bill. We use a good quality double lined bag and do not have a problem with butter leaking through, of course we meter the amount of butter put on the corn. And we use real butter. yes there is a comercial tool used to fill bags and they come in a right and left handed models. It takes very little time to use and the customers seem to like it when the girls "pack" that little extra in. One downside though, a 130oz bag that is over filled will hold as much as a 170oz tub.
lance
Posted by Russ Kress (Member # 461) on 07-07-2000, 02:44 AM:
We are one of three multiplexes in the greater Charleston area. We are the only one that uses tubs. Customers like them better. Russ
Posted by Zach Zagar (Member # 379) on 07-10-2000, 10:22 PM:
My theater chain (Goodrich) has flip flopped on this issue over the years. The inital shock to customers when they get a lovely bag instead of a tub, was not pleasant to our ears. We offer both, with the 0.25 upgrade idea (not sure who had that idea first). The tubs sell better. Don't you all love those people who think that they are different sizes? THAT bag is 46 oz? It feels like only 1 oz. For customers benefit, however, most of the time, we can get a bag of the same size to hold more corn. Just too compact, butter not spread properly, etc.
TUB TUB TUB, I say
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 07-11-2000, 05:41 PM:
We use tubs. I would think bags would take so long to open & fill that the cost difference would be made up in time wasted. Also customers like them better.BTW, even if nobody eats all of a 140oz bucket....so what? It's the buying that's important!
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 07-22-2000, 03:23 AM:
If anyone's planning on coming out for the Olympics and happen to take in a movie while you're here, you'd better bring your butter with you. Popcorn ain't served with it here...that's why I have to make it to the States every so often so I can get my 'fix'.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-23-2000, 12:34 AM:
Tubs for sure! The bags have another annoying side effect....they sure seem to be noisier than the tubs rustling in the theatre. Particularly when a group gets the community sized popcorn for multi-person distribution. Factors on my popcorn purchase include:
Tubs
Real Butter (Odel's Real is my personal favoite). If you have it, I WILL buy the popcorn (and tell all my friends too!)
Steve
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"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 07-23-2000, 01:14 AM:
Bags seem to work just fine for me. Ours are manufactured by Winpak. They do just fine for us (Cinemark). I've never had a problem w/ a leaky bag. However, next month, we are offering some sort of a popcorn tub combo. It'll be interesting to see how that goes over. A little off topic, but are we the only company that is such a whore for advertising? I don't sell a single bag w/ Cinemark imprinted on it:
46 oz - Kirby's Adventure (Nintendo)
American Express (previously)
85 oz - Thomas & Magic RR
Cybergold.com (previously)
Pitch Black (previously)
130 oz - Rugrats In Paris
Mission Impossible 2 (previously)
Snow Day (previously)
Sleepy Hollow (previously)it's kind of annoying.
At least our drink cups are still Cinemark cups.
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 08-05-2001, 05:06 PM:
Where I'm coming from every chain (AMC, General Cinema, Loews, National Amusements, Reading, Regal, UA) uses bags. So does the nearby arthouse.
Posted by Rachel Carter (Member # 693) on 08-05-2001, 08:30 PM:
I like the tubs but unfortunatly they cost more and take up more space in the trash can. We have bags for our Small, Medium, Large, and X-Large but also have the choice of the tub for our X-large. The X-Large tubs fly off the counters while the X-Large bags just sit on the counters getting dusty
I can't wait for the day that we sell out all the X-large bags so we can just get rid of them completly! It probably helps that we have pictures on the tubs from various kids movies, they do great at the matinees!
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 08-05-2001, 09:13 PM:
Tubs, Tubs and More Tubs. Easy to fill, customers like them better, and much less fiddleing around for the concession staff to deal with. Quicker sales, faster service, and higher per capita benefit from tubs.
Posted by William T. Parr (Member # 677) on 08-06-2001, 07:08 AM:
I Prefer Tubs myself, but I can see why most thetare chains have started using the bags as Ian pointed out they take up less space in a trash can. Storge space is also reduced by the bags versus the Tubs, but I still prefer my popcorn to be in a huge bulky Tub.
Posted by Paul Turner (Member # 832) on 08-06-2001, 02:33 PM:
Bags and tubs. We use the bags because they are recyclable. We have a 170 oz tub (called the "Damn Huge") which people love to order -- and they do. I'm not sure if this is in all areas, but the 170 tubs i used can be recycled in the single layer cardboard bins. Our town is very enviornmentally oriented so unless i want to have daily converstions about the recyclablility of the "butter bags" i better just use paper. for that reason we don't have butter.
Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 08-06-2001, 11:49 PM:
Putting yourself on the other side of the counter you'll find a couple tubs easier to carry especially when you're also carrying a couple humongous drinks and have to get those 400 pound auditorium doors open and squeeze thru a crowded row to get back to your seat.
Posted by Christopher M. Belch (Member # 846) on 08-13-2001, 06:32 PM:
Ok, here goes my first post, and please excue the spelling, but this thing wont let me cut and paste, and i have yet to find a spellchecker (though it might be here). Anyways, i am gonna be sacreligious and say that THEATERS SHOUDLNT SELL POPCORN!!! lol!!! Ok, so i used to love popcorn, especially at the movies, but work with smelling it everyday and you get sick of it...cuz of it, now i cant stand to eat popcorn. And bersides, think of how easy it would be to clean our theaters...
Posted by Rachel Carter (Member # 693) on 08-16-2001, 01:10 PM:
Just think of it this way Christopher. If your theater didn't sell popcorn they probably wouldn't make enough money to give you a job.... therefore, KEEP THE POPCORN COMING!!! 
*Just for the record, I'm not a big fan of popcorn either!
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 08-16-2001, 05:41 PM:
Update to my previous post: UA now offers a super-giant-size tub filled with Orville Redenbacher. Plus a free refill if you want it! 
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 08-16-2001, 05:43 PM:
Chris works at an institutional theater. We're not supposed to make money or we get in trouble with the feds. 
Oh, and I vote for tubs. And I'm sick of popcorn, too.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 08-17-2001, 12:19 PM:
Yes I will agree, the smell of that stuff gets real old real fast, especially durring a double shift. Funny thing is, you just keep eating the stuff. I have sworn off the stuff for the fall(popcorn and all the junk on it makes your XC running slower)Josh
PS> I dont really have a preference, since no one around here uses tubs<bummer>
Posted by Christopher M. Belch (Member # 846) on 08-17-2001, 08:08 PM:
Of course as much as i hate it, and i swear i will never eat it again, if im hungry at work...(we dont have a fancy concession stand--all we sell is candy (off limits unless you got $3 a box), popcorn, and pop)...so popcorn will have to do.Also, it is rumored we are getting a cappuccino machine. Does anyone have one? Do people buy cappuccino at movies?
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 08-18-2001, 10:25 PM:
Yes, some theatres do sell cappuchino (or however you say that). In fact, West Acres Cinema (dubbed waisted acres by our staff) does sell cappuchino. the milk base of the drink mix is only good for 7 days after it is opened, but it isnt uncommon to find a bag that is over 3 or 4 weeks old.No thank you, I'll stick with my orange tea 
Josh
Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 08-05-2011, 08:26 PM:
It has been 3638 days since the last post.
Posted by Melanie Loggins (Member # 6454) on 08-05-2011, 08:26 PM:
I'm going to revive this thread since I just spent too much time pricing bulk tubs only to be discouraged by the fact that they cost 2-3 times more than the bags we currently use.
Like everyone, we fight leaky bags and have people complain. But tubs are so much more expensive and would take up priceless real estate on our too-small counter.
So... what do you use? Why? Can anyone tell me about switching and which was better?
EDIT: "It has been 3638 days since the last post." That's just freaky.
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 08-05-2011, 08:54 PM:
(Ya, a 10yr old thread ....must be a record for a revival on here ... sysops are gonna have fun with this one)
170oz tubs are mainly for looks to go along with a 44 or 52 oz cup to push a large combo with refills, being the best value for the dollar to the patron... You put a tub next to a bag that same size by a jumbo drink and which one is saying "Please buy me for the best value!"
Tubs are more sturdy to handle than 170 oz bags that looks like grocery sacks being that big. Plus, you weight a bag down with all of that vegetable grease and it's prone to rip when grabbed by one hand on the side. Tubs can be taken home and gets reused by the kids...
Also, it's a cinema's largest markup item .. which also makes the most money in the snakbar and keeps the per cap up at a level so the mgr can keep his DM off his back when he's training and making sure that the staff knows on how to upsell and suggestive sell ... so the popcorn shovelers can keep your JOB!
Some locations with small counters have small tables off to the side to place their tubs on .. they've learned to be creative to make a display work for them.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 08-05-2011, 09:58 PM:
Melanie, how long is your counter? Our counter is only about 8 feet wide, but we still have plenty of room for 4 sizes of buckets, plus all the other stuff.
Posted by Melanie Loggins (Member # 6454) on 08-05-2011, 11:08 PM:
Okay, Mike, you got me there. Our counter is more than twice that. But I still don't want to give any of it up!
The main issue is still the price difference. Our prices are already about half what the chains charge and if I have to pay more for the container, I'm going to have to raise the price, even if just by a quarter. Which I don't want to do.
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 08-06-2011, 12:04 AM: