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Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-03-2002, 07:07 PM:

I bought a small popcorn machine to use around the screening room and the bags I bought are to small (I'm a popcorn hog) Last time I went to the theater I bough a bag of just the right size. It measures 3-1/2 by 5 by 8-1/2 inches. But when I look on suppliers web pages they are all rated in Ozs. Anybody know what this size bag translates to in Ozs?

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-03-2002, 07:15 PM:

That sounds like a "medium" for chains like Regal and Cinemark.

We had a small Kingery popcorn maker where I used to work. Whenever I made a batch of popcorn, the odor would be carried through the ventilation system and attract people from all over the building, including another floor.

MMM, extra buttery-flavor topping please.

Posted by Tim Sherman (Member # 569) on 02-03-2002, 07:42 PM:

Take a look on the bottom of the bag. Most of the bags have the oz. printed on the bottom of the bag. The three sizes we use are 85oz. 130oz. and 170oz. i think. Hope this helps.

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Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-03-2002, 08:36 PM:

Yep I got it at a Regal and it does say Winpak Medium, but it doesn't have any numbers. It's a Spy Kids bag

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-03-2002, 09:55 PM:

Probably an 85-oz bag. We have that size and the measurements are pretty close.

Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 02-04-2002, 12:43 AM:

Winpak Medium = 85 oz

Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 02-04-2002, 03:53 AM:

Speaking as an ignorant UK popcorn hater

who just likes to drop in on strange message threads I assume the "oz" measurements are really a sort of capacity thing like fluid oz rather than weight.

The thought of carrying 170oz (10 1/4 lbs!) of that smelly sticky carpet destroyer around is just too much to bear

Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 02-04-2002, 04:46 AM:

Medium 85oz bag

Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-04-2002, 09:19 AM:

Yes Dick I had the same vision. An 85 oz rating seemed like a lot of popcorn. Like a garbage bag full. What makes things more confusing is the popper is called a 6 oz. but will make more than two 85 oz bags of popped corn in a popping.
Thanks for the replies guys

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-04-2002, 01:24 PM:

Greg noted: "What makes things more confusing is the popper is called a 6 oz. but will make more than two 85 oz bags of popped corn in a popping."

Doesn't the popper rating (6 oz.) relate to the weight of the unpopped seeds needed to make a batch? The volume of the final popcorn would depend on the quality of the seeds, oil, and popping conditions.

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-04-2002, 01:27 PM:

John, there is no limit to the depth of your amazing knowledge of this business!!

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Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 02-04-2002, 02:47 PM:

So, I wonder what the 85oz. refers to. Would the bag hold 85oz. of uncooked corn, or is it some sort of displacement?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-04-2002, 06:27 PM:

John - You are correct, it refers to the volume of unpopped corn.

Posted by Scott D. Neff (Member # 185) on 02-05-2002, 07:35 AM:

We all best watch out when Movie Theatre Jeopardy comes around...

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 02-05-2002, 10:41 AM:

Yes, that bag you described is an 85 ounce bag. It surely doesn't hold 85ozs of POPPED corn...

Must be raw kernel measurement.

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Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-05-2002, 11:08 AM:

My guess would be the bucket or bag size is a measure of dry volume. For example, in the USA, strawberries may be sold in a pint or quart basket. I assume a 32 oz sized bag would be equivalent to a dry quart.

An equivalent situation is measuring the displacement (cylinder size) of an internal combustion engine. We talk of litres, cc (cubic centimetres) or cubic inches of displacement. So popcorn bags/buckets could also be sized in litres or cubic inches.
http://www.startinbusiness.co.uk/siinfo.htm
http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/dictunit.htm
http://www.jobo-usa.com/instructions/instructions_misc_conversion_tables.htm
http://www.av.qnet.com/~rchill/conversi.htm
http://diy-online.co.nz/library/articles/english_metric_equivalents.htm

Imperial Measures of Capacity:
1 gill =
1.42058 decilitres
1 pint (4 gills) =
0.56823 litre
1 quart (2 pints) =
1.13646 litres
1 gallon (4 quarts) =
4.5459631 litres
1 peck (2 gallons) =
9.0917 litres
1 bushel (8 gallons) =
3.6366 dekalitres
1 quarter (8 bushels) =
2.90935 hectolitres

Cubic Measure:
1 cubic inch =
16.3870 cubic centimetres
1 cubic foot (1,728 cub. In.) =
0.2832 cubic metre
1 cubic yard (27 cub. Ft) =
0.764553 cubic metre

Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 02-05-2002, 11:30 AM:

John
It's interesting that the pint /litre conversions you give are for imperial gallons not US.

Aren't US gallons 20% smaller than imperial based on there being 16floz to the US pint as opposed to 20floz in the UK imperial pint?
Possibly the only time when something isn't bigger in the US

Therefore one US gallon should be approx 3.78 litres.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-05-2002, 12:37 PM:

Those conversions were cut and pasted from the last (New Zealand) link I listed. Yes, the US pint is 16 fluid ounces. "Gills" were the give-away to the origin.

BTW, is that where the expression "drunk to the gills" comes from?
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Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 02-06-2002, 03:10 AM:

John

Just to prove the complexity of the English language in this context "gill" is pronounced "jill".

What's more confusing is that in certain parts of Lancashire (that heathen part of England west of the Oldham - Diggle line )
up until about 20 years ago if you asked for a gill in a pub you were given half a pint of beer not a quarter

Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 02-06-2002, 08:07 AM:

A new topic Dick! "IQ Lines Around the World". In eastern Ontario, one branch of the Trans-Canada Highway is the east-west stretch of Highway 7 running basically from Toronto to Ottawa. That's our IQ line. "Must be from North-of-7" is the reply to anyone who is acting dumb. Sometimes it directly relates to alcohol consumption of course, and all in fun.