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Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 02-15-2002, 04:01 AM:

Here is a CNN article which talks about Lucasfilm being disappointed with the lack of digital installations available to show Star Wars Episode II.

Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 02-15-2002, 07:38 AM:

Any opinions on how this "film" will look on 35mm (since it was shot in digital)? Has he shot himself in the foot? I see he's hoping for 2000 screens in 3 years, any predictions on that?

Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 02-15-2002, 08:41 AM:

It's hard to tell from the trailers. Most of the ones I've seen have been printed letterboxed within a 1.85:1 "flat" image, which is tiny compared to real scope. There is not much to go on.

It'll probably look all right. Rick McCallum (the producer) was quoted a few months ago as saying they are going to go directly from their digital master to a set of dupe negatives, and then to release prints. So the prints will only be two steps removed from the original source material. 2K resolution isn't that bad, but the fact that it was shot with HDTV cameras means it's still going to have that "video" look. CCDs just don't capture light the same way film does.

I hope that (digital master -> dupe neg -> release print) process catches on. Films that go through a "digital intermediate" a la "O Brother Where Art Thou" could benefit. It might help avoid some of the generational loss that comes from standard release printing.

Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 02-15-2002, 08:56 AM:

So old Georgie boy is disappointed. Aaaawwww isn't that just too bad.

Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 02-15-2002, 09:47 AM:

I have seen the episode II trailer presented in scope and I have to say that the image quality is very good. I felt the colors were very rich and image was sharp. I am looking forward to seeing the quality aspect of the Prints when they are released.

With the still unperfect quality of the dlp projection and having to sit in certain areas of the theater not to see the pixels. Film is still the way to go and will be for a long long time.

When I screen a film I will sometimes move around to different areas of the theater and watch a few minutes of the presentation to get different aspects of what the public will be seeing. what kind of focus adjustments may be needed if any for the person sitting on the front row.

As soon as it is possable to sit on the front row of a theater screening of a DLP projected image without seeing any pixelization of any kind. Only then will I feel that the paying public will get a good presentaion for their buck.

Everyone needs to get a grip and accept the fact that it will be a long long time before a fully implemented program and switch over to DLP will ever take place. To many things still need to be done.

This is something that should not be rushed, because all that you will gain is sub par results.

Bottom line right now is everyone needs to do film done right no exceptions to the rules.

Posted by Rory Burke (Member # 512) on 02-15-2002, 10:57 AM:

Georgie pie shouldn't be too sadnned regarding Digital Cinema installations. His own company THX practically helped was instrumental in helping to launch the idea and as far as I see it he has done the most he can do from his behalf to push the technology <creating D.C. presentation standards, hosting D.C exhibitions, filming in D.C. to create confidence etc etc> and the brunt of the acceptance is now on exibitioners, film makers, distributors, studios, public demand and on and on! Disapointed perhaps but he should still have some pride considering he is practically the founding father of Digital Cinema!!! I say....."keep your headup Georgie pie.....you're doing allright"

From someone who misses the days when George would buy me breakfast, lunch, and dinner; till the end a true loyalist,

Rory Burke

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-15-2002, 11:42 AM:

When I saw the scope Ep II trailer (before Harry Potter I think), I was really surprised at how sharp it looked. HP looked positively low-res and grainy in comparison. Everything on the trailer including the Lucasfilm logo was as sharp as anything I've seen in 35mm. Now the deck may have been stacked on the trailer by Lucas to generate exactly that impression, but if so it worked pretty well.

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- dave
Look at this! His chin strap has been cut!

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-15-2002, 12:38 PM:

What it should have gotten was a release print order for 2000 70mm's. That would have been more like it. Serves Georgie poo right! Remember this Georgeie, the Edsel didn't go anywhere either!
Dave, I'd be surprised to see 20 more screens in the next three years.
Mark @ GTS

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-15-2002, 12:40 PM:

Much can be done in post-production to digitally "sharpen" an image, but the inherent resolution is still limited by the camera resolution (1920 horizontal pixels) and digital recorder used (AFAIK, the on-board HDCAM recorder has significant image quality penalties). Post production on this movie is taking several years.

As a capture medium, color negative film is hard to beat:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/story/fact.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/story/insight.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/students/filmtech/35hd24p.shtml

Kodak's Dr. Roger Morton has presented several papers to the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE), objectively comparing the image quality of 35mm film and 24P origination. In almost all respects (e.g. resolution, latitude, highlight detail, shadow detail, color reproduction, flesh tones, depth of field control, slow motion capability, etc.), film has significant advantages.

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 585-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 585-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-15-2002, 12:54 PM:

The "sharpness" I saw could very well be some kind of manipulation of the image. It's hard to tell what the *real* resolution is up there from a 2 minute trailer that's been tweaked to impress the audience. I do recall though that the Lucas logo at the end of the trailer, with some very small type on it, looked sharper than normal. I mean it looked like the characters were laser-etched up there on the screen.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-15-2002, 01:15 PM:

David said: "I do recall though that the Lucas logo at the end of the trailer, with some very small type on it, looked sharper than normal. I mean it looked like the characters were laser-etched up there on the screen."

That's not surprising. The logos are CGI. If they were laser recorded at 4K (or even 2K) resolution directly to the printing negative, the prints would be very sharp.

Using "Digital Intermediate" for film originated images, with laser output directly to the printing negative would eliminate the multiple stages of contact printing usually used today to make the master positive and duplicate negative for release printing, improving sharpness and steadiness:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/students/onCampus/april2001/intermediates.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/digital/mastering.shtml
http://www.cinesite.com/la/digital/background.html
http://www.cinesite.com/la/scanrec/filmscan.html
http://www.cinesite.com/la/scanrec/filmrec.html
http://www.cinesite.com/CineonTech/resoultions/ResChart.html
http://www.arri.com/infodown/other/broch/laser_e.pdf

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-15-2002, 02:20 PM:

When Lucas made a big thing about not letting Episode I play in Drive-ins because their quality of presentation didn't live up to his THX standards, yet he let it play in every hole-in-the-wall grid house across the country, it bespoke of how money drives the industry alot more than quality and integrity. In the end, Fox even the Drive-ins played it. And you can put money on it that they will play Episode II everywhere and anywhere -- you can't make 120 million dollars in the first weekend if you insist on playing it on only 40 DLP screens, now can you?! Should I draw the analogy to the hooker who will do anything for a price?

As far as not enough DLPs installed to make George happy, there is an easy solutiion -- let LucasDigital....ooops, I mean "Film" install them and pay for them. Hey, why deal with exhibitors at all? If you're not happy with the way they run their business....just open your own chain of theatres and use whatever techology suits your fancy. Oh, but then there is that little matter of the Paramount Consent Decrees. Oh well.

Posted by Tom Fermanian (Member # 1094) on 02-15-2002, 02:57 PM:

Poor George?,
A helluva lot of exhibitors in Canada are still frustrated about the last Star Wars flick, Most are saying that this was the worst deal they ever made, most lost money on their engaments???Terms, conditions playtime etc. Now he want's digital, I don't see Lucasfilms offering to pay us to install free digital projectors for this release (I 'm not interested anyway), I agree 70mm prints with DTS(no magnetic stripping to do) would be much cheaper and could give a great (even better) image than digital.

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Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 02-15-2002, 03:35 PM:

You gotta give Lucas some credit for his visionary approach to the business. Rather than sit back and do what everyone in Hollywood would do, he's decided to push technology to the next level. The ultimate goal we would like to see (70mm quality) may not happen in his lifetime, but it will happen. And if he didn't take the initiative now then none of the lazy studio people in Hollywood would ever try.

Consider this... we have a BETTER chance of seeing digital reach 70mm quality in our lifetimes than we do of seeing Hollywood embrace 70mm again.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-15-2002, 04:05 PM:

Frank,
A customer of mine in Knox Indiana played it at his drive in on release .......

Dave said....."Consider this... we have a BETTER chance of seeing digital reach 70m quality in our lifetimes than we do of seeing Hollywood embrace 70mm again."

According to people at DTS I've spoken with there is supposed to be alot of 70mm stuff out this year, including a whole new batch of Lawrence Of Arabia in 70mm......Thank God!
George a visionary? Thats a farce. What ever vision he had got flushed down the toilet a number of years ago.
Mark @ GTS

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 02-15-2002, 05:10 PM:

Wow! A 40th Anniversary release of Lawrence of Arabia! But is there anyone in Utah still capable of showing it in 70mm? I had the pleasure of seeing it at the Regency 12 years ago... a distant memory now. Will I have to go to Los Angeles to see any of the other 70mm releases you're talking about?

Of course, I could use this 40th Anniversary re-release as evidence of my point. How close has Hollywood gotten to matching the visual grandeur of Lawrence of Arabia in the last 40 years? All the 70mm films I ever showed were blow-ups.

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 02-15-2002, 10:35 PM:

Remember that Episode One was 95 percent digital. Now episode two is all digital. I doubt that we will know the difference, especially since we will have such a strong story line and great direction from the master.

Dave

Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 02-16-2002, 04:36 AM:

Sniff, sniff...Dave is that sarcasm I smell?

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 02-16-2002, 09:53 AM:

It's interesting to read this thread while I'm already reading the one about Olympic bribery. George Lucas didn't do anything illegal to make his billions and there's nothing illegal about the way he's making even more by producing bad Star Wars movies using a bad, new technology. It's plain, old capitalism (and not as heartless as it is sometimes carried out). A lot of American producers are going to Canada... because that way they can get Candian taxpayer dollars pumped into their pockets. He didn't even do that! (But... does the Australian government subsidize the movie industry? I don't know.) But... we hate him anyway.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-16-2002, 10:46 AM:

If the government of a country chooses to subsidise an intusrty that is its business only. Also that only increases the cost of living for the people of that country as well.
Also the subsidies for US productions are not that large either the main reason for so much production up here is lower labour costs and a exchange rate on the dollar that the free market sets

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-16-2002, 10:53 AM:

Ep1 and Ep2 need to be judged as movies, first and foremost. Not Lucas movies or digital movies. So the first question is, do they work well at that level? Ep1 was sorely lacking. I have a bad feeling about Ep2, but hope I am wrong. I don't think Lucas should be directing his own material, but if he wants to do that, just be fair and don't trash him and the movies just because you don't like George "The Looney Movie Mogul". Judge his movie the same as any other "normal" director/writer/producer's movie.

As far as George being "disappointed" at the slow pace of the d-cinema rollout, well, if he believes in d-cinema, he is free to speak his mind, even if he's being unrealistic. Lucas has done much to improve the movie-going experience for audiences and he obviously believes d-cinema is the next big thing. Everyone knows it's still too early and the technology isn't mature, and it's way too expensive, and there are the content delivery issues still to be resolved, so duh, d-cinema is not here yet. But when he speaks, he gets the attention of exhibitors etc. and raises the awareness level, and that's probably a good thing.

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- dave
Look at this! His chin strap has been cut!

Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 02-16-2002, 11:42 AM:

The story that Canada subsidizes film production is bogus, spread by California politicians and the US craft unions.
There are some tax writeoffs for Canadian productions, and grants are available for some kinds of Canadian productions. Government subsidy for foreign productions, although once substantial to support a growing industry, is negligible now. The US governments will spend many times that cost for security at the American AMPAS Oscar award ceremony soon - a direct subsidy to US producers.
The problem is, much like the Projectionist union did, the US stage/film production unions have priced their members out of competition. Canada has capable workers in non-IA craft unions who seem to appreciate that lots of work at a decent pay is better than no work at excellent pay.
Film producers can choose to take their business to another country and save a pile on production labour costs, and - being businessmen - they do.
Canada gets a lot of their business - we are closer than most countries and have a large pool of experienced workers. The dollar disparity is gravy.

Before parroting the union propoganda, consider that Canada is considered part of the domestic market for US films. Canada is counted as just like another state to US distributors, albeit only second largest. Why should we not get some of the production profit for contributing to their presentation profit?

(Broadway producers can't leave town though, and they have to pay the insane union wages. I'm sure they wish they could come here.)

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-16-2002, 01:18 PM:

If George Lucas is so "disappointed," then maybe he should use some of his millions and millions of dollars to help subsidize his beloved digital conversion, and try to get some of the mega-rich corporations that are going to benefit from the conversion to pony up as well...not go around whining about being "disappointed" that so many of us are reluctant to replace a proven, reliable, workable technology with something that won't benefit most of us that much, and is likely to be obsolete in two years.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 02-16-2002, 01:25 PM:

Settle down, gentlemen. There are plenty of non-union film production workers here in Utah who don't care to work in Los Angeles. But the pecking order seems to be 1) Shoot it in Los Angeles or, if you don't have quite enough money for that 2) Shoot it in Utah or... 3) Just go to Canada. (Lots of people have gone for option 3 over the years and the added hassle of a Salt Lake City Olympic party has hurt the Utah film production business for quite a while now.) That's the business and if we don't like it, we need to find another. It's perfectly legal, too... but that doesn't mean we live in a perfect world.

When the production of X-Men moved to Canada, the director of photography was only allowed to bring along one of his normal crew members from the U.S. to work with him. Union propaganda aside, I rarely hear about such job discrimination flowing the other direction.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-16-2002, 02:14 PM:

Actually Greg Canadian performers are routinly barred from bring any of there canadian crew with them when they tour the US And there is a shortage of soundstage space now that some Canadian productions are filming in LA and with totaly US crews as the US doesn't allow canadian dept heads to work on a Canadian production in the US
Also over half the production in Ontario is either Nabet or IA crews

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-16-2002, 03:00 PM:

"But is there anyone in Utah still capable of showing it in 70mm? "

Gerg,
Fortunately, Yes there are at least a half dozen places. The Villa, SCERA Theatre, Trolly Corners and a few others. Plus I ahev a rental 70mm setup so it could literally be shown anyplace. Equipment is not a problem anyplace, the problem is fimnding smart enough theatre owners to book it in the first place.
You mean to tell me that you never ran 2001, Vertigo, or My Fair Lady,? Those are all large format originals.

Dave S. Ok, I'll judge Episode 1 as pure crap! Didn't do a darn thing for me.....

Mark @ GTS

Posted by Keith Peticolas (Member # 971) on 02-16-2002, 04:36 PM:

Maybe Georgie should quit whining, and spend some money on a script writer. Pretty picutres are nice, but if there isn't a decent story why bother?

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 02-16-2002, 05:29 PM:

Yes, I have plenty of sarcasm. I live for it. I eat it for breakfast.

As for olympic bribery in the other thread.... I love to keep that one going.

And there is more to movies than good stories. Lately much more than good stories.

Dave

Posted by Owen Shave (Member # 1156) on 02-16-2002, 07:47 PM:

Personally I think part of the problem is that digital is seen as a level playing field. We have a DLP projector here but its like 2 years old at least. Ok so imho films look great on it (most notably Vertical Limit, Emperor's New Groove and Monsters Inc.. Atlantis looked kinda grainy/pixellated

) But when you say 'in digital' what does that mean? i'm sure a brand spanking new latest generation DLP projector would make it look much better than a 2 year old model. Its like grouping together a 500 MHz pentium with a 2Ghz machine and saying they are the same. Just like film, the paying public will get varying qualities of DLP presentations, and as each new DLP model comes out, the gap will widen. Its not like they will upgrade the projectors very often. they're expensive.. trust me, I want one for my bedroom

having a mix of DLP and film can also show up poor film presentation in your theatre too.. but you just can't beat being able to fast forward/rewind... I just can't get enough of those outtakes at the end of Mon. Inc

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-16-2002, 08:14 PM:

Perhaps I am ignorant but why would anyone want to shoot in Utah, of all places? I've been there twice and have yet to be impressed. Sure, there are some small to medium sized mountains around and a huge lake, but I don't really remember much of anything else in the state. I do remember seeing a LOT of guys (in pairs... hmmmm) riding on bikes while wearing ties. Must be the "thing to do" in Utah.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-16-2002, 08:44 PM:

All the current DLP machines are basically identical

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 02-16-2002, 08:57 PM:

No, Mark. I only showed first-run 70mm movies in the 1980s. The examples you use are all movies made before 1970, even if they had re-releases in the 1990s. And, while a really old movie can look great in 70mm, the fact remains that Hollywood, most likely, will never shoot a mainstream feature on 65mm film again.

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 02-16-2002, 08:58 PM:

Joe,

First of all, the "guys" you refer to are the wonderful mormon missionaries. And most of them are driving cars now. Didn't you know that the Mormon Church is loaded by now?

Second of all, there is quite a lot to shoot in utah. Mostly mormons. Actually you would be quite shocked to know just what and how many films are shot here. In fact we have some of the most talented white people around.

Third of all... Utah is a nice RIGHT TO WORK STATE.. no unions or unions rules to follow. Makes production much cheaper, and the locals work real hard. Plus, you travel five miles in any direction, and you can pretend you are in a whole different city, state, or even country. Utah has been trying to "fit in" this large world, and in doing so, follows constructions trends, changeing every five years or so. As a result, we offer a wide range of shooting options for any film production.

We have desert, mountains, snow, rain, modern buildings, old buildings, and bars with gay people in them. It's truly amazing.

And yes, we even have one of those old fashioned aeroports where the big planes come in and out of.

Ive been to denver, got robbed there. By carnies of all people. Never got robbed in Utah. Well there was that one time at band camp...

Dave

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-16-2002, 10:12 PM:

Joe said...Perhaps I am ignorant but why would anyone want to shoot in Utah, of all places?" And......
"Sure, there are some small to medium sized mountains around and a huge lake, but I don't really remember much of anything else in the state."

Joe you have to realize that Utah is like one gigantic Park. That is why U didn't notice much here.

Utah has more State and National parks than any other state in the union. Here's a partial listing
BTW: Utah has over a dozen peaks that are over 13,000 feet. Wanna go climbing?.......

The Wasatch Mountains run north to south from Logan to Provo providing hundreds miles of trails in heavily timbered mountain settings. You'll find lots of day hiking options, especially near any of the population centers -- Logan, Ogden, Salt Lake City, Provo. Some more isolated longer hikes are available in Mt. Nebo Wilderness area south of Provo

The Uinta Mountains are Utah's tallest mountain range, with over a dozen peaks exceeding 13,000'. Most of the range is comprised of the High Uinta Wilderness Area in which no vehicles (including bikes) or structures are permitted. You'll find hundreds of miles of trails with possibilities for all manner of day hikes and multi-day backpacking trips.

Flaming Gorge is made up of beautiful clear blue Flaming Gorge Lake, surrounded by brightly colored canyon walls amidst thousands of acres of pretty, forested highlands. Around the lake and in the mountainous areas nearby are several pleasant hiking trails.

The San Rafael Swell is a terrifically wild and lightly visited area of desert canyons in the heart of Utah. Visitors here should expect plenty of solitude in a harsh but starkly beautiful setting. The adventurous can explore the backcountry on foot.

The Tushar Mountains are a pretty range with a good network of hiking and biking trails, campgrounds and small lakes. Though the Tushars exceed the height of the Wasatch Mountains in Northern Utah, they remain under appreciated and relatively uncrowded.

Southeastern Utah has numerous great destinations for hiking. Most of your options are in desert conditions through red rock scenery, though the La Sal mountains offer hiking in cooler alpine settings.

Arches National Park is a geological wonderland set in the red rock desert of southeastern Utah. It is home to the largest concentration of sandstone arches in the world, some 2,000 in all, and many other fascinating rock formations. There are numerous good day hiking trails to the parks attractions. There are also limited overnight backpacking opportunities possible.

Canyonlands National Park is a spectacularly wild area of immense orange-red canyons and superlative red rock formations in the desert of the Colorado Plateau. Canyonlands is made up of three distinct districts, each of which offers great hiking. The Island in the Sky District sits on a peninsula high above the Green and Colorado rivers. It has a handful of short day hikes on the peninsula and numerous backpacking trips down to a mesa above the rivers. The Needles District has a great network of trails offering lots of day and overnight possibilities among wonderful canyons and rock formations. The isolated Maze District gets its name from an incredible series of box canyons that make for extraordinary backpacking trips for skilled hikers.

Dark Canyon Wilderness is a pristine wilderness/primitive area. The upper portion of the canyon features timbered backcountry, whereas the lower portion presents a red rock desert landscape. It is best explored on multi-day backpacking trips.

The La Sal Mountains, Utah's second highest range (12,721 feet), rise impressively above the surrounding red rock desert landscape of southeast Utah. They have a good network trails that wind through pretty alpine terrain.

Moab is located 5 miles from Arches, 30 miles from Canyonlands, and 20 miles from the La Sals. It serves not only as a base from which to access the many hiking opportunities at those destinations, but also has many good day hikes in the red rock canyons near town.

Bryce Canyon National Park offers a spectacularly beautiful series of amphitheaters filled with colorful, eroded rock forms. It has a number of excellent short hikes down into the amphitheaters and some overnight possibilities as well.

Capitol Reef National Park is made up of a 100 mile long ridge of rock that was forced up out of the earth millions of years ago. Erosion has created marvelously-colored and wildly-varied rock formations of great beauty out of the ridge. Numerous good day hikes are accessible from the park's main scenic drive or Hwy. 24. Longer backpacking excursions are possible in the backcountry.

The Markagunt Plateau is an attractive, heavily forested, highland located just east of Cedar City. It contains Cedar Breaks National Monument, an area of colorful, eroded rock forms, and the ski resort town of Brian Head. Dozens of trails provide opportunities for day hikes and some overnighters.

Pine Valley Mountains are an attractive, small range that rises out of the surrounding desert to thick forests of pine and aspen. It is located 30 miles northwest of St. George. The range has a good network of hiking trails, providing day and overnight possibilities.

Zion National Park is an awe inspiring place with massive cliff walls that tower majestically a half mile above the canyon floor. It is Utah's most visited national park. It has many great easily accessed day hikes and numerous opportunities for overnight excursions into its expansive backcountry.

Here are a few of the state Parks.....

Anasazi Indian State Park Heritage
Antelope Island State Park Scenic
Bear Lake State Park Recreation
Camp Floyd/Stagecoach Inn State Park Heritage
Coral Pink Sand Dunes Recreation
Dead Horse Point State Park Scenic
Deer Creek State Park Recreation
East Canyon State Park Recreation
Edge Of The Cedars State Park Heritage
Escalante State Park Recreation
Fort Buenaventura State Park Heritage
Fremont Indian State Park Heritage
Goblin Valley State Park Scenic
Goosenecks State Park Scenic
Great Salt Lake State Park Recreation
Green River State Park Recreation
Gunlock State Park Recreation
Historic Union Pacific Rail Trail State Park Recreation
Huntington State Park Recreation
Hyrum State Park Recreation
Iron Mission State Park Heritage
Jordan River State Park Recreation
Jordanelle State Park Recreation
Kodachrome State Park Scenic
Lost Creek State Park Recreation
Millsite State Park Recreation
Minersville State Park Recreation
Otter Creek State Park Recreation
Palisade State Park Recreation
Piute State Park Recreation
Quail Creek State Park Recreation
Red Fleet State Park Recreation
Rockport State Park Recreation
Scofield State Park Recreation
Snow Canyon State Park Scenic
Starvation State Park Recreation
Steinaker State Park Recreation
Territorial Statehouse State Park Heritage
This Is The Place State Park Heritage
Utah Field House of Natural History Heritage
Utah Lake State Park Recreation
Veterans Memorial State Park Heritage
Wasatch Mountain State Park Scenic
Willard Bay State Park Recreation
Yuba State Park Recreation

Here's a partial list of films shot in Utah, Of course you won't find that any really famous films were shot here.....

2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
ABSENCE OF THE GOOD
ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE
ACROSS THE WIDE MISSOURI
ADDRESS UNKNOWN
ADVENTURES OF A WILDERNESS FAMILY, THE
ADVENTURES OF FRONTIER FREMONT, THE
ADVENTURES OF NELLIE BLY, THE
AGAIN A LOVE STORY
AGAINST A CROOKED SKY
AIRPORT 1975 1974
AIRWOLF
ALEX JOSEPH AND HIS WIVES
ALEXANDER
ALIAS SMITH AND JONES
ALL FACES WEST
ALL FOR ONE
ALMOST ANYTHING
ALYSON'S CLOSET
AMAZING DISCOVERIES OF NOAH'S ARK
AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL
AMERICA'S FUNNIEST PEOPLE
AMERICA'S MOST WANTED
AMERICAN STORIES:BAD NIGHT IN COTTAGEVILLE
AMERICAN WEST OF JOHN FORD, THE
ANASAZI MOON
ANCIENT SECRETS OF THE BIBLE
ANGEL 1 & 2
ANGELS IN THE ATTIC
ANYA'S BELL
APPLE DUMPLING GANG RIDES AGAIN, THE
APPLEBY SENSATION, THE
APPOINTMENT FOR A KILLING
ARABIAN NIGHTS
ARGUMENT, THE
ARIZONA KID, THE
AT MOTHERS REQUEST
AURORA
AVENGING ANGEL, THE
BABY BEDLAM
BACK TO THE FUTURE PART III
BAD MAN OF BRIMSTONE
BADLANDERS
BAKER'S HAWK
BALLAD OF LUCY WHIPPLE, THE
BANDOLERO!
BARAKA
BATS
BATTLE AT APACHE PASS, THE
BATTLING FOR BABY
BEAR COUNTRY
BEASTMASTER 2: THROUGH THE PORTAL OF TIME
BEAVER COUNTRY
BEFORE HE WAKES
BEHIND THE MOVIE LENS
BEHIND THE WATERFALL
BELONG
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT
BERMUDA TRIANGLE, THE
BETTER OFF DEAD
BEYOND AND BACK
BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR
BEYOND THE PRAIRIE
BERSERKER (aka BERSERKER: THE NORDIC CURSE)
BIBLICAL STORIES
BIG CAT
BIG HEART
BIG TRAIL, THE
BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY
BILLY THE KID
BIONIC BOY, THE
BIRDS OF PREY
BITTER MARKINGS
BJORN
BLACK BART
BLACK RIDER, THE
BLIND WITNESS
BLUE
BLUE MARBLE
BODY SLAM
BOND MAKES GOOD
BOOGENS, THE
BOOTS AND SADDLES
BORDER RIVER
BOX (aka PRIMARY SUSPECTS)
BOYS OF TWILIGHT, THE
BRANDED
BREAKDOWN
BREAKING FREE
BRIDGE OF GOLD, THE
BRIGHAM
BRIGHAM CITY
BRIGHAM YOUNG
BRIGHTY OF THE GRAND CANYON
BROKEN ARROW
BUFFALO BILL
BUGLES IN THE AFTERNOON
BULKIN TRAIL, THE
BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID
BUTTERCREAM GANG, THE
BUTTERCREAM GANG II, THE
CALAMITY JANE AND SAM BASS
CALIFORNIA GOLD RUSH
CAN YOU IMAGINE
CAN'T HELP SINGING
CANYON CROSSROADS
CAPTURE OF GRIZZLY ADAMS, THE
CAR, THE
CARNIVAL OF SOULS
CARVING THE WHITE
CATACLYSM (aka THE NIGHTMARE NEVER ENDS)
C'ERA UNA VOLTA IL WEST (aka ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST)
CHALLENGE THE WILDERNESS
CHANGING STEPS
CHANTILLY LACE
CHEYENNE
CHEYENNE AUTUMN
CHEYENNE SOCIAL CLUB, THE
CHILD BRIDE OF SHORT CREEK
CHILL FACTOR
CHLOE'S BLANKET
CHOKE CANYON
CHRISTMAS IN THE CLOUDS
CHRISTMAS LILIES
CHRISTMAS MISSION
CHRISTMAS MOUNTAIN
CISCO KID, THE
CITY OF BRIGHAM YOUNG
CITY SLICKERS II: THE LEGEND OF CURLY'S GOLD
CLAY PIGEONS
CLIMB, THE
COAST TO COAST
COLORS:UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL
COMMANCHEROS
CON AIR
CON EXPRESS
CONCORDE, THE : AIRPORT '79
CONQUEROR, THE
CONQUEST, THE
COSMIC VOYAGE
COVER ME: BASED ON THE TRUE LIFE OF AN FBI FAMILY
COVERED WAGON, THE
COWBOYS & ANGELS
COYOTE SUMMER
CRAYOLUV
CREEPERS
CROSSROADS
CROW:SALVATION, THE
CRY TO THE WILD
CUJO
DALTON GIRLS, THE
DAMNATION ALLEY (aka SURVIVAL RUN)
DANIEL BOONE (1936)
DANIEL BOONE (1961)
DARK BLOOD
DARKLING, THE
DEAD RINGER
DEADEYED DICK
DEADWOOD COACH
DEATH VALLEY DAYS
DEERSLAYER, THE
DELIBERATE STRANGER, THE
DELIVER THEM FROM EVIL:THE TAKING OF ALTA VIEW
DESERT WINDS
DESPERADOS, THE (1943)
DESPERADOS, THE (1969)
DESPERATE HOURS
DETENTION:THE SIEGE AT JOHNSON HIGH
DEVIL AND MISS SARAH, THE
DEVIL'S BRIGADE, THE
DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
DIVIDED BY HATE (aka BITTER MARKINGS)
DMZ
DOJO KIDS
DOLLY PARTON CHRISTMAS SPECIAL
DON'T LOOK UNDER THE BED
DONNER PARTY, THE
DONNIE AND MARIE (aka THE OSMOND FAMILY SHOW)
DONNIE AND MARIE CHRISTMAS SHOW
DON'T GO IN THE WOODS
DOUBLE JEOPARDY
DOUBLE TEAMED
DOWN THE LONG HILLS
DRAGONFIGHT
DREAM CATCHER, THE
DREAM CHASER, THE
DREAM MACHINE
DREAM WEST
DRIVE ME CRAZY
DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK
DUDE RANGER, THE
DUEL AT DIABLO
DUMB AND DUMBER
DUMB LUCK
DUS (TEN)
DYING TO BELONG
EARTHBOUND
EASY RIDER
EIGER SANCTION, THE
ELECTRA GLIDE IN BLUE
ELECTRIC HORSEMAN
EMPTY POCKETS
ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN
ENEMY
ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE
EQUINOX (aka ISIMERIA)
EVENING MAGAZINE (aka PM MAGAZINE)
EVEREST
EVIL IN CLEAR RIVER
EVOLUTION
EXECUTIONER'S SONG, THE
EXODUS, THE
EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC
EXPLORER
EXTREME (aka EXTREME RESCUE)
FACE OF EVIL
FACE ON THE BARROOM FLOOR
FADE-IN (aka IRON COWBOY)
FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER, THE
FARGO KID, THE
FAST GETAWAY
FATE OF THE UNIVERSE
FEMALE BUNCH, THE (aka A TIME TO RUN)
FIFTY
FIRE AT COUNTY GENERAL
FIRESTARTER: THE NEXT CHAPTER
FLANAGAN'S BULL PUP
FLETCH
FLINTSTONES, THE
FOOTLOOSE
FOR THE LOVE OF MY DAUGHTER
FORLORN RIVER
FORREST GUMP
FORT APACHE (aka WAR PARTY)
FORT BOWIE
FORT DOBBS
FORT YUMA
FORTUNE COOKIE
FREERIDERS
FRIENDS AND LOVERS
FRIENDSHIPS FIELD
F-TROOP
GALAXY QUEST
GAMBLER'S GHOST, THE
GENO
GERONIMO: AN AMERICAN LEGEND
GHOST DANCING
GHOST TOWN
GIRL IN BLACK STOCKINGS
GIVE YOUR HEART TO THE HAWKS
GLASS HOUSE, THE (aka TRUMAN CAPOTE'S THE GLASS HOUSE)
GOBLINS
GOLD OF THE SEVEN SAINTS
GOLDYLOCKS
GOOD EARTH, THE
GOODBYE BIRD, THE
GOOFY'S FIELD TRIPS
GOOSE BUMPS
GRAIN OF DUST
GRAND CANYON
GREAT BIKINI OFF-ROAD ADVENTURE, THE
GREAT BRAIN, THE
GREAT CLIMBS
GREAT OUTDOORS
GREATEST HEROES OF THE BIBLE
GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD, THE
GREEN GRASS OF WYOMING
GREEN HORN
GUARDIAN OF THE FOREST
GUNPOINT
GUNSMOKE
HALF WAY TO HELL
HALLOWEEN 4: THE RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS
HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS
HALLOWEEN 6: THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS
HALLOWEEN H2K: EVIL NEVER DIES
HANGER 18
HARMFUL INTENT
HARRY IN YOUR POCKET
HARRY NEVER HOLDS
HARRY'S WAR
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL
HEAD
HEAD OVER HEELS
HEART OF ARIZONA (aka GUNSMOKE)
HEAVEN OR VEGAS
HEAVEN SENT
HEMINGWAY
HERITAGE OF THE DESERT
HIDDEN SECRETS OF THE GRAND CANYON
HIGHWAY TO HELL (1991)
HIGHWAY TO HELL (1992)
HOBO'S CHRISTMAS, A
HOLLYWOOD DETECTIVE
HOME OF OUR OWN, A
HONKY TALK FREEWAY
HORSE CRAZY
HOST
HOTEL FRANKENSTEIN
HOUNDED
HOUSE OF SEVEN CORPSES, THE
HOUSE THAT HALF JACK BUILT, THE
HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS
HOW THE WEST WAS WON (1960 - 1968)
HOW THE WEST WAS WON (1962)
HOW TO SMOKE POT
HUMANOIDS FROM THE DEEP
HUNTRESS, THE
HUSBAND'S BETRYAL (aka Test of Love)
I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA CLAUSE
ICED (aka BLIZZARD OF BLOOD)
IN MY SISTER'S SHADOW
IN OLD ARIZONA
IN OLD OKLAHOMA (aka WAR OF THE WILDCATS)
IN SEARCH OF GOLDEN SKY
IN SEARCH OF HISTORIC JESUS
IN SEARCH OF NOAH'S ARK
IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE
IN THE LINE OF DUTY: SIEGE AT MARION
IN THE SHADOW OF EVIL
IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS
INCIDENT AT CRESTRIDGE
INCIDENT AT DARK RIVER
INCREDIBLE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RACE
INDEPENDENCE DAY
INDEPENDENT'S DAY
INDIAN RUNNER
INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE
INSIDE THE NBA
INTO THE PARADISE
INVASION OF PRIVACY
IT ALMOST WASN'T CHRISTMAS
IT WAS HIM OR US
JEDEDIAH SMITH
JEREMIAH JOHNSON
JESSI'S GIRLS (aka WANTED WOMEN)
JEWEL OF THE NILE, THE
JOHNNY TSUNAMI
JOSH AND S.A.M.
JUBAL
JUST A DREAM
JUST AN ORDINARY GUY
JUST IN TIME
JUST LIKE DAD
K2
KANSAS RAIDERS
KILLER IN THE FAMILY
KING AND FOUR QUEENS, THE
KIT CARSON
KNIGHTS
KNOCKING AT HEAVEN'S DOOR
KONRAD
LADY WITH A BADGE
LAND OF NO RETURN (aka CHALLENGE TO SURVIVE)
LARGER THAN LIFE
LASSIE
LAST CHANCE
LAST OF THE MOHICANS, THE (1977)
LAST RESORT, THE
LAST TIME I COMMITTED SUICIDE, THE
LEGACY
LEGEND OF SLEEPY HOLLOW, THE
LEGEND OF THE LONE RANGER
LEGEND OF THE WILD
LEGION OF FIRE: KILLER ANTS! (aka MARABUNTA)
LETTERS FROM A KILLER
LIFE AND TIMES OF GRIZZLY ADAMS, THE
LIFE LESS ORDINARY, A
LIGHT BREAKING
LIGHTNING JACK
LINCOLN CONSPIRACY, THE
LITTLE HEROES
LONE RANGER, THE (1956)
LONE RANGER, THE (1949 - 1957)
LONG ROAD HOME, THE
LONG ZAI TIAN YA (aka DRAGON FIGHT, aka DRAGON KICKBOXER)
LOSS OF INNOCENCE, A
LOST TREASURE OF DOS SANTOS
LOUIS L'AMOUR'S DOWN THE LONG HILLS
LOVE IS A FUNNY THING (aka UN HOMME QUI ME PLAIT)
LUCK OF THE IRISH
LUST OF THE AGES, THE
MACGYVER
MACKENNA'S GOLD
MADE MEN
MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, THE
MAN WHO WOULD BE KING, THE
MAN WITH THREE WIVES, THE
MANY WIVES: VOWS OF SILENCE
MARK TWAIN SERIES
MARTIAN LAW
MAVERICK
MAYDAY AT 4,000 FEET
MCMAHANS, THE
MEET THE DEEDLES
MEL AND SUSAN TOGETHER
MELVIN AND HOWARD
MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN
MERCENARY
MIDNIGHT CLEAR, A
MIDNIGHT MAN
MILLION DOLLAR MYSTERY (aka MONEY MANIA)
MIRACLES AND OTHER WONDERS (1992)
MIRACLES AND OTHER WONDERS (1994)
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE II (aka M:I-2)
MISTER KRUEGER'S CHRISTMAS
MONEY PLAYS
MONUMENTAL UTAH
MORE PRECIOUS THAN GOLD
MORMON CONQUEST
MORTAL STORM, THE
MORTAL FEAR
MOTHER KNOWS BEST (aka AMERICAN RIVER)
MOTHERLY LOVE
MOTORAMA
MOUNTAIN MAN
MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD
MOVIN' ON
MR. ATLAS
MULHOLLAND FALLS
MURDER AT 75 BIRCH STREET
MY DARLING CLEMENTINE
MY FRIEND FLICKA
MY LIFE AS A BABYSITTER
MY ROAD
NASHVILLE GRAB
NATURAL ENEMIES
NATURAL WONDERS OF THE WEST
NEON CITY
NET WORTH
NIGHT SINS
NIGHTMARE AT NOON
NINETYFIVE ZIP
NINJA III: THE DOMINATIONS
NO LAUGHING MATTER
NO MORE BATHS
NO PLACE TO HIDE
NOAH'S ARK
NOEL'S HOUSE PARTY
NORA
NOT IN THIS TOWN
NOTHING LASTS FOREVER
NUDE BOMB, THE
NURSE BETTY
NUTCRACKER
OCTOPUSSY
OH! SUSANNA
OLD TIME LOW DOWN
ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF MORMONISM
ONE LITTLE INDIAN
ONLY ONCE (1997)
ONLY ONCE (1998)
ORDINARY HEROES
OUT OF ANNIE'S PAST
OUTDOOR ADVENTURE
OUTLAW JOSEY WALES, THE
OUTRIDERS, THE
OVERNIGHT SENSATION
P.K. AND THE KID
PAPER BRIGADE
PARADISE RECLAIMED
PARALLEL LIVES
PARTNERS IN CRIME
PASSION IN THE DESERT, A
PERFECT GETAWAY, THE
PERFECT MURDER, PERFECT TOWN
PEROXIDE PASSION
PERRI
PHANTOM WOLF
PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT
PLAN 10 FROM OUTER SPACE
PLANET OF THE APES (aka MONKEY PLANET)
PLANET OF THE APES (2001)
PONTIAC MOON
PONY EXPRESS
POOF POINT
POOLHALL JUNKIES
PORTER ROCKWELL
PRESIDENT MUST DIE, THE
PRIMARY SUSPECT (aka BOX)
PRESIDENT'S CHILD, THE
PROMISED LAND (aka YOUNG HEARTS)
PROMISED LAND (TV Series)
PURE RACE
QUINCANNON, FRONTIER SCOUT
RAINBOW TRAIL, THE
RAINMAKER, THE
RAMONA
RAMROD
RAVEN HAWK
RED CANYON
RED FURY, THE
RESCUE 911
RETURN TO THE SECRET GARDEN
RETURNING, THE
REVENGE OF THE NINJA (aka NINJA II)
REVOLT AT FORT LARAMIE
RIDE IN THE WHIRLWIND
RIDE, VAQUERO
RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE (1918)
RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE (1996)
RIDERS OF THE STORM (aka AMERICAN WAY)
RIGHT TEMPTATION, THE
RIGOLETTO
RIN TIN TIN (THE ADVENTURES OF…)
RIO CONCHOS
RIO GRANDE
ROAD TO REDEMPTION, THE
ROCKETMAN
ROMANCING THE STONE
ROUGH NIGHT IN JERICHO
ROUTE 66 (1960 - 1966)
ROUTE 66 (1998)
ROVERS, THE
RUBIN & ED
RUN OF THE ARROW (aka HOT LEAD)
RUN TO THE HIGH COUNTRY
RUN, COUGAR, RUN
RUNNER, THE
S.L.C. PUNK!
SAME RIVER TWICE
SAMONE
SANDLOT, THE (aka THE SANDLOT KIDS)
SANTA BARBARA
SANTA FE PASSAGE
SAVAGE WATERS
SAVANNAH SMILES
SCORNED AND SWINDLED
SEARCHERS, THE
SEARCHING FOR NEMO
SEASON OF THE HEART
SEATA, THE MOUNTAIN LION
SECRET KEEPER, THE
SERGEANT'S THREE
SUMMER SERGEANT RUTLEDGE
SEVEN WAYS FROM SUNDOWN
SEVENTH SHADOW OF THE SUN, THE
SHADOW OF EVIL
SHARE THE MOON
SHATTERED TRUST: THE SHARI KARNEY STORY
SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON
SHEPHERD OF THE HILLS
SHILOH 2: SHILOH SEASON (aka A DOG'S TALE)
SHOOTING, THE
SHOT IN THE HEART
SIDE BY SIDE: OSMOND STORY
SIEGE AT RED RIVER
SILENT NIGHT, DEADLY NIGHT (aka SLAYRIDE)
SIMOOM: A PASSION IN THE DESERT
SINGLE BARS, SINGLE WOMEN
SIX BLACK HORSES
SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, THE
SKI PATROL
SKIPPER
SKYJACKED
SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENTS
SLAVE GIRL
SLOW
SLOW BURN
SMOKE SIGNAL
SMOKEY
SNOWJOB
SNOWKILL
SNOWRIDERS II
SOLDIERS THREE
SOLO
SOMETHING BORROWED, SOMETHING BLUE
SON OF COCHISE
SOUTHWEST PASSAGE (aka CAMELS WEST)
SPACE HUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE
SPECIES
SPIRIT OF AMERICA
SPIRIT OF ROCK AND ROLL
SPLIT INFINITY
SQUELCH
STAGECOACH
STALLION CANYON
STAND, THE
STANDING UP COUNTRY
STIR CRAZY
STOLEN FROM THE HEART
STRANGER ON MY LAND
STRANGER THAN FICTION
STRAY DOG
STREET MUSIC
SUBSTITUTE 3: WINNER TAKES ALL, THE
SUMMER OF THE EAGLE
SUNCHASER, THE
SUNDOWN
SUNDOWN: THE VAMPIRE IN RETREAT
SUPERMAN III
SURE FIRE
SURVIVALIST, THE (aka JACK TILLMAN: THE SURVIVALIST)
SWITCH, THE
TAKE DOWN
TALL TALE TAZA, SON OF COCHISE
TEEN ANGEL RETURNS (aka TEEN ANGEL II)
TEENAGE BONNIE & KLEPTO CLYDE
TEMPTATION(aka THE RIGHT TEMPTATION)
TEN COMMANDMENTS, THE
TEN WHO DARED, THE
TENNESSEE VALLEY(aka THE ONLY THRILL)
TERROR IN THE FAMILY
TESTAMENTS: OF ONE FOLD AND ONE SHEPHERED, THE
THAT'S INCREDIBLE
THELMA & LOUISE
THEY CAME TO CORDURA
THIS BOY'S LIFE
THREE GODFATHERS
THREE O'CLOCK HIGH
THREE THINGS I'VE LEARNED
THUNDER (aka THUNDER WARRIOR)
THUNDER IN THE VALLEY (aka BOB, SON OF BATTLE)
THUNDERHEAD-SON OF FLICKA
TICKET, THE
TIGHT SPOT
TIMBUKTU
TIME FOR KILLING, A (aka THE LONG RIDE HOME)
TIME MACHINE, THE (1978)
TOKLAT
TOMAHAWK TRAIL
TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL
TOUR OF THE WEST, A
TOWN TURNS TO DUST, A
TREASURE(aka LOST TREASURES OF DON SANTOS)
TREASURE OF LOST CREEK
TRIPWIRE
TROLL 2 (aka TROLLS)
TRUST
TRUTH OR CONSEQUENCES, N.M.
TWELVE INTO TWENTY
TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARAH
UFO DIARIES
UNABOMBER: THE TRUE STORY (aka UNABOMBER)
UNCOMMON VALOR
UNDER CONTRACT
UNDERCOVER KID
UNFORGIVABLE
UNHOOK THE STARS
UNION PACIFIC
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES
VACATION (aka NATIONAL LAMPOON'S VACATION)
VANISHING AMERICAN, THE (aka THE VANISHING RACE)
VANISHING POINT (1971)
VANISHING POINT (1997)
VIRTUAL OBSESSION
VISITOR, THE
WAGON TRAIN
WAGONMASTER
WAIT UNTIL SPRING, BANDINI
WAITING TO DIE, HOPING TO LIVE
WAITING TO EXHALE
WAKE
WALKER, TEXAS RANGER (1996)
WALKER, TEXAS RANGER (1998)
WALKING THUNDER
WALL STREET
WANDA, NEVADA
WAR DRUMS
WARLOCK (1958)
WARLOCK (1989)
WARNING SIGN
WAY OF THE GUN, THE
WEREWOLF
WESTERN UNION
WESTWARD THE WOMEN
WHEN THE NORTH WIND BLOWS
WHIFFS (aka C.A.S.H.)
WIDOWS WEEDS
WILD BILL HICKOK RIDES
WILD ROVERS
WIND
WIND DANCER
WIND RIVER
WINDRUNNER
WINDWALKER
WISH UPON A STAR
WORD OF HONOR
WORLD BEYOND, THE
YEAR OF THE DRAGON
YELLOW TOMAHAWK
ZACK & REBA
ZION CANYON: TREASURE OF THE GODS

I think there is far more film heritage here than Mormon heritage. And be caredul next time U do come to town as the cops here also ride bicycles.
Mark @ GTS

Hey Dave, What did I leave out????

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-16-2002, 10:23 PM:

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Thanks Mark for copying everything ever written about the state of Utah as well

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-16-2002, 10:27 PM:

I'd say that 50% of them were shot entirely here and some had only sequences shot here. I don't know if that means that 50% of half the films had most of their scenes done in Utah or not. Anyway I can't think of another state that has had more films shot in it than here.
Mark
P.S. I WAS going for the longest ever post!

Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-16-2002, 11:00 PM:

Hey,

you have to be kidding me. You believe that

Wow! That has to be the longest post I have ever seen.

Maybe I should sneak in to Las Vegas and see if he can handle more beer than I can Martini's...

PS Something tells me he can.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-16-2002, 11:44 PM:

Mark, call it a hunch, but I think that California has had a couple more movies shot in it than Utah. Totally irrelevant: Did you know Texas used to be it's own country?

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-17-2002, 11:13 AM:

Joe, Am just checking to see if you caught that. I thought the list might just overwhelm you a bit and make U forget about Califirnia.
Actually CA. is more a state of mind than an actual state anyway.
Wasn't Utah then part of Texas when it was its own country? I think it was back when it was known as the Territory of some sort er somethin.
Mark @ GTS

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-17-2002, 05:27 PM:

I don't know about Utah being a part of old Texas, but I do know that Texas can split up into 5 of its own states if it doesn't like what the rest of the country is doing (or something like that). Apparently they still have this in their "contract".