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Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 10-26-2002, 05:14 PM:
We have part of our riser wall (stadium seating) either kicked in or someone put their head through it (the hole is about the right size). Anybody else have any damage to report? It is not going to surprise me to see news stories over this weekend about copycats who have seen the movie. If there hasn't been already.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 10-26-2002, 09:15 PM:
We had our ladies restroom sign ripped off the wall and stolen.
Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 10-26-2002, 10:49 PM:
No damage yet - however we had to kick out some AIR FORCE guys last night for public drunkeness. Glad to see the guys who defend our country at their finest.Two notes on this:
As one sobered up last night - he said that he realized how dumb it was to actually get kicked out of the movie "Jackass".
Some of them came back tonight to apologize to my staff and I - and they were sober!
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 10-27-2002, 12:08 AM:
Not to wander away from the topic, but Dennis, that's a classic..... 
At least they apologized. They could have gotten in hot water if they were "picked up" and got busted....something like that can ruin their careers. Public drunkeness of military personnel is not tolerated.
Posted by Kara J. McVay (Member # 1285) on 10-27-2002, 03:18 PM:
I had a jackass leave a condom on my street sign,in daylight and the crew found a beer bottle full of "warm" liquid. No one wanted to investigate the "warm" liquid any further. But thank God no property damage, I kept a pretty good eye on them this weekend.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 10-27-2002, 04:57 PM:
As we were exiting from "Ghost Ship", someone who appeared to be intoxicated was being escorted out of "Jackass" by an usher. The ejectee kept protesting "The only reason this theater exists is because of me!" but he left without causing any more trouble.
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 10-27-2002, 07:31 PM:
JACKASS was banned here in The Bahamas for being "degrading and disgusting." As a result, I don't have any damage to report.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 10-27-2002, 09:03 PM:
Yes but at least be thankfull that you have "jack" asses in the seats these days
Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 10-28-2002, 08:49 AM:
Fire Extinguisher discharged and Fire Alarm pulled - If that counts.Luckily, fire alarm was @ 12:30 am and not many shows were left playing.
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 10-28-2002, 09:09 AM:
Where I saw it this weekend, they had a big security guard standing in the theater for the duration of the film. No damage there.
Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 10-28-2002, 09:28 AM:
We had a guy do a quick strip show during the credits and pee on the floor in front of the screen. Fun.
Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 10-28-2002, 07:24 PM:
Paul,Same thing happened here. Fire extinguisher discharged in side hallway, alarm went off, only 3 shows still in progress. Wound up with an excess of $500+ in refunds over the weekend from that event alone.
Added four employees to the close staff for Sat/Sun, no problems.
Freekin assholes!
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 10-28-2002, 08:26 PM:
DennisAlcohol problems in the USAF are a major problem! Oh the stories I have!
One of many stories...and yes it is true: Travis AFB CA 1994 or 1995..I forgot the year. An Airman of legal drinking age loaned his Military I.D. card out to an "underaged" Airman. Now, this Airman who loand out his I.D. card was already in hot water for other offenses. The "underaged" Airman to whom he loaned his I.D. card out to went into the NCO club on base, got drunk and was busted with a DUI on base. Well, both parties were in deep
for this and the Airman who loaned his I.D. card out sent a sucide note up through his chain of command. The note was ignored and the guy blew his head off in the barracks. For the next month suicide prevention was a very hot topic on base.
The alcohol problem at Norton AFB, CA (now closed) was so bad that what went on in the barracks would make "Animal House" or any college frat look like a bunch of amatures!
God, what Ican go on about!
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-04-2002, 08:38 AM:
I'm told that some of the guys in Jackass live right up the street from our theater. In fact they reportedly did a stunt for their TV show in front of the theater once.Our biggest auditorium had a nice clean screen when it started. Not anymore. It now has the standard mustard/cheese/soda stains.
Our sister theater down the road had a beer thrown at their screen. They also had the masking curtains pulled down on one side of the screen in their #2 biggest house. The drunk idiots that did it are lucky they didn't kill themselves by the big rod coming down and clocking them in the head.
Mark
Posted by Jonathan M. Crist (Member # 413) on 11-04-2002, 12:27 PM:
At 8:00 PM this past Friday someone pulled the fire alarm at the Hoyts in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania forcing the evacuation of the then current running shows and the cancellation of the last shows for the entire 14 screen complex. Since this Hoyts does not enforce the R rating policy and lets anyone in, it could not be someone who was turned away.
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 11-04-2002, 12:34 PM:
When I was buying tickets for I Spy yesterday at a Regal, a couple teenagers in front of me were trying to get into Jackass. The cashier would not sell them tickets because they couldn't prove their age. Yay Regal (I guess).
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-04-2002, 01:51 PM:
We are doing our best to turn away underaged folks for this movie in particular. We try to do it anyway, but we're paying particular attention to this one because of the potential rowdiness factor. That's part of the reason why "The Ring" did so well at our theater (and probably others) during weeks 2 & 3 of its release. Does anyone know if 8 Mile is rated R? If it is, The Ring will probably keep doing kick-ass business for us next week! ;-)
By the way, we frequently end up in heated arguments with parents who want to just drop off their eight kids and leave. They even go to the extent to buy a ticket, walk in, sit with them for about ten minutes, then leave. I can't tell you how many kids have been wandering aimlessly around our lobby for two hours these last two weekends because we pulled them out of the movie after their parents sneaked out and drove away. We refund the kids' money, but not the parents. They're probably too embarassed to come back in and ask for it, and the movie is over by the time they get back anyway. At least we get their popcorn money and lots of quarters in our arcade games. ;-)
Posted by Jonathan M. Crist (Member # 413) on 11-04-2002, 02:51 PM:
8 Mile is Rated R and (once again) being marketed directly to the 14 to 16 years olds. In many ways Hollywood is like the tobacco industry - marketing to teens a product that they arenot allowed to have. And like store owners, theatres are caught in the middle. Has anyone seen the latest NATO newsletter which is critical of theatres for their lax enforcement of the ratings system?
And Univesal has Empire coming up soon as well!
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-05-2002, 09:01 AM:
It is very difficult sometimes for us. Take last night for example (election day eve). Lots of kids have off from school today, so we got crushed significantly more than we expected. We just didn't have the staff to put at the doors of the auditoriums. I personally kicked out one kid walking into Jackass with a ticket for I Spy while I was on my way back to the booth. We do the best with what we've got, but they do sneak by occasionally.
Posted by Travis Turnbough (Member # 1389) on 11-06-2002, 06:03 PM:
The theatre I used to work at has had many problems with this. They have had an Exit sign ripped off the wall.
A candy case was kicked in and broken.
And of course, some drunk threw a whiskey bottle across the theatre, and as security was escorting him out he was hitting himself on the head with the bottle. Security ended up having to mase the guy.
Posted by Joshua Lott (Member # 240) on 11-06-2002, 07:23 PM:
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It is very difficult sometimes for us. Take last night for example (election day eve). Lots of kids have off from school today, so we got crushed significantly more than we expected. We just didn't have the staff to put at the doors of the auditoriums.
I disagree. I can understand as to how some would get by. But on getting crushed on a night before you know school is going to be out is crazy. Management should have accounted for this in there scheduling.
It is up to the management to know that flow of customers in there building, and be anticipating for any jumps in numbers. Sometimes things happen. But as a general rule management should have control of there building in every aspect. And areas that have things happen they should have plans in place for that.
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Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-07-2002, 10:51 AM:
I agree, they should have seen it coming. I don't meant to make excuses. Our theater patronage has been up recently and we frequently get surprised like that.Anyway, I just noticed last night one of our perf screens had a 1 - 2 foot tear in it. It's less than a year old, too. grrrrr.....
If there was ever a print that I really really really wanted to drop down the stairs and kick out into the parking lot while it was raining, and then keep showing it that way.....
I'd never do that of course, but you know how frustrating it is to have these idiots come in and see a pristine presentation that you work so hard to do only to have them tear your screen, steal your signs, break your seats, scratch your mirrors, piss in the theater or whatever.... The only drawback is that the theater would end up paying for the print too.
Posted by Joshua Lott (Member # 240) on 11-07-2002, 11:47 PM:
I understand where you are coming from. I was just frustrated becuase there are so many managers out there that want to blame some one else with out taking responsibility.Part of what my company does is goes into theatre (and other businesses) and works out there current problems, creates new policy if neccasary, removes old policy and the like.
We go in an get stuff fixed. Then we work on the public relations issues. We fix the building and staff, then promote it.
It can work really well if the owners are open minded.
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Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-08-2002, 08:40 AM:
Theater owners should do a cost benefit analysis of showing Jackass. Maybe we took in a few thousand dollars in profit from the concession stand, but if we have to buy a new screen now, and pay someone $1000 to hang it up, was it really worth it? Especially since that movie will die LONG before we start making any profit from the box office. Maybe we should have brought Greek Wedding back instead. But then again, with some of the decisions we make, I'm not sure we're in business to make money.
Mark
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 11-08-2002, 09:09 AM:
Well, a few things to consider. First, you have to keep the film company happy. Now this shouldn't be the only factor in making booking decisions, and sometimes theatres can go a bit overboard in this area, but turning down a major release like 'Jackass' isn't going to make Paramount your best friend. The second thing to remember is that the damage to your screen may or may not be covered by your property insurance. I'm no insurance expert so I'm not sure if you can make claims for vandalism. Its something to look into though.
Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 11-08-2002, 01:43 PM:
Most theaters will buy a vandalism rider to pay for such claims.Here is the problem...
Since the attacks of 9/11, as most insurance companies have had to pay out BILLIONS in claims as a result, new guidlines are bieng applied by most major carriers.
If you make too many claims over the life of your policy, you may be rejected by your insurance carrier and may not be renewed. New companies may not accept your policy either.
It all comes down to cost. If you have a thousand dollars in damage, and can afford to fix it without a claim, then fix it. If you don't have the cash, then think about how you can prevent it from happening again, and make the claim.
Just remember that insurance, while there to cover costs of loss, should be used in the case of high or total loss.
Example, you get robbed and lose 300 dollars. DONT FILE THE CLAIM.
OR... you get robbed and lose 32 THOUSAND dollars. FILE THE CLAIM.
Dave
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 11-10-2002, 10:55 AM:
The Loews E-Walk in Times Square -- 13 screens, all stadium, all digital -- has had no damage AFAIK. When I was there yesterday there was an usher at EVERY auditorium entrance checking ticket stubs. That's partly because the E-Walk is in a "feast" period (8 Mile, I Spy, Santa Clause 2, Bowling for Columbine, Jackass, The Ring).
Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 11-10-2002, 07:52 PM:
Not really damage, but two vomiting incidents (one inside the auditorium, one on a garbage can outside), and one stink bomb, all within 24 hours of each.We also had some kids threaten a member of management when he told them they had to leave the lobby after the film, at around midnight.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 11-10-2002, 09:51 PM:
Dustin,I see your point, but when Paramount decides to release a film tailer made for a particular cross section of people that are known to be vandelous and destructive and lacking any hint of discipline, then they should be understanding if we decide we don't want to have anything to do with that crowd. If they don't understand it, then that's too bad. IMO
Mark
Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 11-11-2002, 05:44 AM:
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JACKASS was banned here in The Bahamas for being "degrading and disgusting." As a result, I don't have any damage to report.
I've never heard of this film; what's it about? In what way is it "degrading and disgusting"
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 11-11-2002, 09:35 AM:
here IMDB Listing
here Official Jackass Website
here Yahoo
here Rotten Tomatoes Comments
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