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Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 07-16-2004, 02:27 AM:

Splitting this off from the "Signs You've Been Spending Too Much
Time in Box" thread because 1) that thread was meant to be light heartened and got way too serious, and 2) this deals with more than just box.

Okay, so I was browsing the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Developement website the other day to refresh myself on various labor laws in Wisconsin when I stumbled acros this little gem. As it turns out it is ILLEGAL not to provide someone with a chair for when they are not working. As the summary of the statute says:

quote: DWD Website
Section 103.16 Wisconsin Statutes requires that manufacturing, mechanical, and commercial establishments provide seats for workers when they are not actively engaged in work duties.

While there is always something to clean in concessions, box and ticket takers most certainly have down periods. Now granted non-compliance carriers only a $10-$30 fine per violation and no one is really likely to catch a place like a movie theatre breaking this law anyway but I am the kind of person that believes in following the rules no matter the chance of being caught. The law is the law.

So for the rest of you, best check up on state/federal laws and reconsider your policies for ticket takers and cashiers sitting.

Posted by Robert L. Fischer (Member # 2424) on 07-16-2004, 02:40 AM:

For me, it goes beyond law. I don't think there's any reason at all that a concession worker or an usher should not be able to get a chance to sit down for a few minutes every couple of hours or so. Even if floor workers at movie theaters have fairly easy jobs, I see nothing wrong with getting a chance to sit down out of the view of customers during downtime.

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 07-16-2004, 03:25 AM:

Well, yes, that's what breaks are for.

Posted by Robert L. Fischer (Member # 2424) on 07-16-2004, 03:58 AM:

A lot of jobs don't give official breaks though unless you're a minor.

Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 07-17-2004, 04:40 AM:

well let's derail this one a bit too.

i suppose most theaters have break rooms where it's possible to relax/eat out of sight of the punters. we don't have that. i don't like to bring food into the booth (though others do), and while i try to eat during off-times it often happens that i'm still eating when a show lets out. whether i'm in the lobby or concession area, it feels just a bit wrong. unavoidable, but undesireable. does anyone else have this problem?

carl

Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 07-17-2004, 06:22 AM:

California and Nevada have fairly strict laws about breaks for ALL employees. This is mainly due to the ULTRA LIBERAL mentality of these states. Before I get stern lecture about bringing up politics on this thread I will get off my soapbox now.

As for the chair thing, the statute sounds like it was written a bit vague for interpretation. To me, it sounds like a way to make sure the employer is providing a comfortable environment for breaktimes besides just providing a breakroom.

Here is my argument...
Maybe I am a bit old fasioned here, but if you are not on break, then you should be working. The last time I checked, theatres regardless of chains, ALWAYS have something to be cleaned, fixed, organized, checked on and what have you. Therefore, no chairs need to be provided for anybody at any floor level position including box office. On a side note, managers may use them if they are doing any paperwork or computer work during down times. Other than that, they should be out on the floor making their presence known to customers and staff and helping where needed.

Besides all that crap, chairs and stools being used by staff members on the floor looks ghetto when it is busy. Hell, you might as well give the employee gum to smack on while helping customers from a chair. To me, that's how bad it looks. However, at the expense of sound hypocritical, I do provide stools for my box office cashiers but it is understood that when there are customers coming to the box, they need to hop to attention and stand for all transactions.

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-17-2004, 07:32 AM:

Seems to me that monitoring the door is part of the ticket-taking job description and anyone assigned to that duty is actively working the entire time they are in this duty. Until you hear of a case where the gub'ment or a court says otherwise. Does every state have a law like this?

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 07-17-2004, 09:29 AM:

For referrence, the exact statute:

quote:
103.16 Seats for employees; penalty. Every employer employing employees in any manufacturing, mechanical or mercantile establishment in this state shall provide suitable seats for its employees, and shall permit the use of those seats by its employees when the employees are not necessarily engaged in the active duties for which they are employed. Any employer who violates this section may be fined not less than $10 nor more than $30 for each offense.

Vague perhaps but if the matter of chairs was being pursued under a labor investigation (admittably its not likely it would be investigated on its own, say as part of some other allegation(s)) I'm not sure what the DWD would consider 'engaged in active duties for which they are employed.' You'd probably need to look into case law to see how the courts have ruled on this in the past.

I agree with the philosophy of when you're not on break you should be working. Problem with ticket taking is if you wander too far from the post you end up with un-torn tickets or sneak-ins. Box office needs to have someone in there at all times for obvious reasons and while on a busy day with multiple cashiers I can pull a few to help mop the booth or some other chore during downtime when there's only one person scheduled there there's not much to do. Cleaning the box is about a 20 minute job at most (cleaning counters, glass, sweeping, mopping).

And for the record it is my philosophy that unless the law is more restrictive an employee should be provided with a 15 minute break for a shift of less than six hours. Over six it is company policy to give them a half-hour break.

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 07-17-2004, 12:41 PM:

Back in the day when I ran my theater, my policy was this...

We all work our tails off until the set is complete, then we clean and prepare for the next set...

THEN WE HAVE TIME FOR A BREAK...

Since no one would be in the lobby area for the most part, we would all pull up a chair or whatever, ciao down on a delivered pizza, have a coke, share our stories of the set and reminisce on past ones and crazy customers, and then fifteen or twenty minutes later, we get to posts and start clearing out the theaters and selling tickets and concessions.. and then start over again...

It worked so well, I had nearly no turnover in three years, just six people in all, and only because they went on to college or whatever. The respect that we had was like a very close family, and we all had expectations of each other, instead of iron fist management. We made lots of money, I shared bonuses with the crew, and it was a fun time...

But that theater came to an end when a megaplex opened up one mile away. Damn traterous customers!! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!

Ciao [Big Grin]

Dave

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-17-2004, 09:47 PM:

I don't have to remind you what happened when Costanza gave the clothing store guard a chair!

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-17-2004, 10:09 PM:

I think bus drivers are lazy. How dare they sit on the job! All bus drivers are lazy asses![av=h]

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 07-18-2004, 08:37 AM:

maybe I'm new-fashioned but I think people should be able to sit for a few minutes at least every 2-3 hours, if not more. There is always stuff to be done, but I'd rather do it after giving myself a minutes to rest my feet and head.

Going on break, at least where I work, entails going upstairs and clocking out; a waste of time if you just want to sit for a minute.

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-18-2004, 10:36 AM:

As I stated in another post re: box office chairs & standing..

If you are between shows and there are no customers present or walking up to or around the box office area, it's ok for the cashier to be seated. AS LONG AS THEY HAVE PREPARED THEMSELVES FOR THE NEXT SHOW.

I can't stand having a cashier who sits on the butt, doesnt' check anything them runs out of paper in the debit machine & ticket printer at 6:50pm. Oh, and they generally ask for chnage at the same time.

Yeah, they deserve to sit!

Concession employees sitting is a no-brainer. There is far more to clean/fill/restock in the concession stand so they have much less time to sit anyway...

Doorpersons seated? Never. Unless a medical condition mandates it. I do allow my guys/gals to take breaks as long as someone else covers the spot for them. They can do this between sets, every show.

The operator? Yeah, he sits on his butt all day. Don't you know, we just have to push the PLAY button.... [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 07-18-2004, 12:17 PM:

Stupid fucking teh ghey forum reloaded and erased what I was typing, so here we go again:
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When I've been working for more than 3-4 hours, in booth and helping the floor staff, I HAVE to sit. Even if for 5 minutes or so. I don't have any medical conditions and consider myself an able-bodied young man, but when you've been on your feet for more than three hours, they hurt! And I'm walking around all the time, box and door people are standing in one spot which can become even more painful.

My mother worked in an assembley line for over 10 years and had to stand in one spot on a hard floor for 4+ hours at a time. Now, when she is on her feet for more than an hour straight, she gets leg and back pains. She was paid well, but to do that kind of damage to yourself for minimum wage is downright blasphemous.

Here's what OSHA says on the topic. This is geared towards grocery store checkouts, but most of it applies to box office as well:

quote:
Consider using checkstands designed with an adjustable sit/stand or lumbar support against which cashiers can lean.

Provide foot rests for cashiers. Alternately resting the feet helps to reduce fatigue.

Provide adequate toe space (at least 4 inches) at the bottom of the workstation. Toe space allows cashiers to move closer to the checkstand, decreasing reaching requirements.

Use footrests and anti-fatigue mats in areas where workers stand for prolonged periods. Standing on anti-fatigue mats, as compared to bare floors, provides a noticeable improvement in comfort.

Place keyboards on supports that adjust in height, horizontal distance and tilt to keep work within the preferred work zone.

Adjust the checkstand height to match the cashier's waist height, or use a platform.

If Carmike Cinemas allowed me to sit for 5 minutes for every 3 hours of my double-shift instead of constantly "finding stuff for me to do" perhaps I wouldn't have been so exhausted to the point of DROPPING DEAD FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES in the middle of the auditorium and being awoken by EMS. [Mad]

Which leads me to another point. There ARE times when there's nothing to do. Those that claim there's "always something to be done" are simply looking for inane tasks to assign to the staff so as not to waste precious payroll. One of the dumbest things I was asked to do in my early years was to wipe off the non-existent fingerprints from the payphones that haven't been used since the previous day. And I had to stand while doing it!

quote: Christopher Duvall
California and Nevada have fairly strict laws about breaks for ALL employees. This is mainly due to the ULTRA LIBERAL mentality of these states.

Better than the ULTRA FASCIST states that allow employers to work the employees for slave-wages and bust up Unions. "Man, this theater would be SO MUCH more profitable if it weren't for these damn employees!"

quote: Carl Martin
i suppose most theaters have break rooms where it's possible to relax/eat out of sight of the punters. we don't have that.

You should look into this. I couldn't find it in time for this posting, but there's another OSHA document that clearly states that an Employer must provide an adequate BREAK ROOM for employees. Apparently, some employers believe this simply means to set up a folding card table with a chair next to the soda bibs. But that's the soda room then, not the break room, right?

I am flabberghasted (did I just use that word?) that most people simply don't care about their employees' well-being. But I suppose you must look at it from the view of the Corporation: It's not a person, it's a production unit. If the production unit isn't producing according to our productivity goal, or if the production unit's maintenance cost (read: wage) is too high, that production unit should be discarded in favor of a more productive, and hopefully cheaper one.

=TMP=

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-18-2004, 02:27 PM:

Thomas,

I must say.. the more you post, the more bitter you have become.

If you worked to the point of passing out, then I suggest ou have blood tests done. I see no vaild reasoning behind your passing out other than reasons outside of the workplace. There is nothing, I repeat NOTHING, in a theatre that is so demanding that you'd have to work to the point of passing out. Any manager with 1/2 a brain, and I know, I'm giving it a lot by stating that, allows their employees brief periods to walk away from their post for a bathroom break, smoke break, quick snack break, or actual mandated break (rest period).

I've said enough about this subject. Either you get it, or you don't, and I'm not necesasrily referring to you Thomas.

CIAO, as Dave would say.

Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 07-18-2004, 02:36 PM:

Some people need to sit down , even if it's just for a minute every now and then. Unless I am doing a lot of running around, I need to sit down if I am standing or walking just a little bit in one area. It has nothing to do with laziness. Laziness is when an employee goes through the motions, regardless of whether he looks busy or not, througout the day.

It's like naps. I like to take a 10 minute nap at lunch . At one of my jobs, one lady didn't like it , as if it was worse than people taking fequent smoke breaks, and we had a lot of tension. In fact, the bitch would even go to the extent of saying it isn't a good idea to even nap in my car. I started looking for another job and I am no longer working for that moron.

When I worked as an usher during a summer job in the late 80s at the RKO Shore Quad , Long Island, I had breaks where i just sat and did nothing. Also we were asked to sit in the back row to observe the movie to make sure everything was fine. So, luckily I wasn't in a position to stand all the time. By the way, I think our ticket sellers actually sat in their seats and no one found it unprofessional.

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 07-18-2004, 05:22 PM:

quote: Jason Black
There is nothing, I repeat NOTHING, in a theatre that is so demanding that you'd have to work to the point of passing out.

So youre telling me that it is impossible for him to have possibly worked a double the day before, a double that day, had to run a 20 screen booth, by himself, had someone call in sick, and had to help clean theaters, and on top of all that, he is the assistant manager, and a projector went down, and he had to run around giving rain checks or passes to 200 people. All that seems theater related to me. But since you have said enough on the subject, I wont be expecting a response.

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 07-18-2004, 06:05 PM:

quote: Jeremy Fuentes was the last to post
There is nothing, I repeat NOTHING, in a theatre that is so demanding that you'd have to work to the point of passing out.

I've seen it happen with perfectly healthy people, it's called working your ass off and possible being dehydrated and exhausted. Have you ever had to swap out 10 prints in an hour during a walk in while trying to help concession and ushers? The 100+ lb. LOTR prints ring a bell.

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 07-18-2004, 06:10 PM:

Wow, in almost 40 years of living here I've never heard Nevada being described as having liberal labor laws on par with the PRC (People's Republic of California) [Smile]

. Both states are 'at-will' states but that's about where the similarities end. California recognizes closed-shop rules and is not a 'right-to-work' state. It's relatively union-friendly compared to Nevada which requires open-shop rules and is a 'right-to-work' (for less) state. Nevada still has no income tax and only a very part-time (biennial) legislature. California has both an income tax and a full-time legislature.

Over time as more people move here (still running about 5,000 newbies a month, mostly from California) Las Vegas' politics will be forced to become more liberal. But Nevada's overall tradition and history has been anything but that. We're still much like today's Los Angeles Times' description of the people of Wyoming, a "state with its proudly ornery population [that] has a strong anti-government, libertarian streak [...] not given to over-regulation."

Despite regulations that require two 15-minute breaks and a minimum half-hour lunch break per 8-hour shift (for hourly workers), I would hardly call Nevada's labor laws liberal.

Yeah, I suppose a ticket-taker sitting on a stool when things are busy might look "ghetto", but business that night was very light. They had only the one guy stationed in the middle of the lobby tearing tickets for all 14 screens on both sides. And as I mentioned before, the box office counter there is at desk height, not standing height, so the cashiers sit--even when it's busy.

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-18-2004, 08:05 PM:

Mr. Fuentes (as you like to be called):

I didn't say it was "impossible" fo rthat to happen, however, were that the actual situation, I'd say that there were far greater problems present with all that you quote going wrong. Even on my worst day, and I've gone thru some real winners, I've never had *that* many things go wrong.. [Smile]

Dean:
If you had to swap out 10 prints in an hour then I say that either you or your manager/supervisor were simply ill prepared for what should have been known had to be done well before the hour you had to move prints. [Confused]

As far as your dehydration theory, yes, it is possible for someone to be dehydrated, but it seems to me that one would monitor their fluid intake to prevent such. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows? I will agree that heat exhaustion can creep up on someone, however, under most normal circumstances, a theatre atmosphere would not be so hot as to cause this problem. * Note* I said normal conditions...

Obviously, I am in the minority here.. but that's ok.. I am a minority.. [Big Grin]

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 07-18-2004, 08:17 PM:

quote:
Mr. Fuentes (as you like to be called):

quote: Jason Black
I am a minority..

Hey, me too! But thats not important. Anyways, yeah, youre right, that its very rare, for that many things to go wrong. But neither one of us were there, so I guess we wouldnt know. Only our buddy Thomas P. knows the real story, so I guess we'll wait to hear it from him. I'm sure he posted it somewhere, but I am entirely too lazy to search for it. [Big Grin]

Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 07-18-2004, 08:46 PM:

quote: Jason & Jeremy
I am a minority..

Me too! I'm the only Canadian working with a bunch of people from minorities.

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-18-2004, 09:19 PM:

Mr. Fuentes (You like that, don't you? [evil]

)

quote: Jeremy Fuentes
I'm sure he posted it somewhere, but I am entirely too lazy to search for it

You and me both... [Smile]

Are you online in the booth, or do you simply not have anything better to do??

Posted by Emma Tomiak (Member # 1862) on 07-19-2004, 12:07 AM:

I've passed out from exhaustion at work before. I was at door tearing tickets, and I passed out mid-ticket. Hit my head on the floor and had some wicked vertigo for about 3 days. Ouch.
I also think I scared some customers. Hehehe.

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 07-19-2004, 06:28 AM:

quote: Jason Black
Are you online in the booth, or do you simply not have anything better to do??

I didnt have anything better to do.

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-19-2004, 07:46 AM:

Emma,

Could that have had anything to do with what you may have done outside of work? Lack of proper diet or something? Trying to burn the candle at both ends?

Just curious... 16 years, many, MANY long days with little sleep and I've never passed out, nor had anyone pass out, from exhaustion.

Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 07-19-2004, 11:30 AM:

Yeah, I posted the whole story before. It's got its own thread as far as I know. But just a recap:

Double-shift. Yes, I worked a double-shift+ the night before, building up prints of Matrix Reloaded. The booth is not air conditioned. I've complained about it many, many times before but management didn't care. Even the DM insited the air in the booth be kept off to save costs. So the booth is about 85-87 degrees when the shows are NOT running. Projection is not allowed to stay in booth for any period of time other than to thread and start. They have to help floor: Clean theaters, help concession, etc. No time to sit for even a minute. When it's about 10 minutes to showtime, back to the hot booth. At the end of the night, Projection has to close concession. This is the most fucking rediculous thing I have ever seen! 3 concession employees go home at 10:30pm and ONE booth employee has to clean up their shit, fill ice, lock everything, AND clean the popper. Like I said, Carmike HATES for their Production Units to be idle. So the only "break" I got was between the two double-shifts when I went home to sleep/nap.

The day it happened, I had just had my highly-anticipated 15 minute break to scarf down some food and drink. At least in my mind, I felt perfectly fine. Hydrated, but very tired. I chalked it up to working 30 hours in 2 days. I went upstairs, threaded all the shows, and was called downstairs almost immediately to help seat people in the auditoriums. I came downstairs, started finding seats for people ---- and woke up soaking wet on the lobby floor, surrounded by people and my side hurt real bad. Apparently I fell over some customers in seats, and their drinks got all over me. I wasn't breathing for a while, was completely cold, and had to be given CPR by a customer. THANK GOD the customers knew what to do because the GM was too busy looking for me to yell at me for not answering my radio.

The report from the emergency room concluded that it was an onset of "Heat Collapse" -- a type of exhaustion where the body doesn't feel hot, and you don't feel it coming. No dizzyness, no pain... you just DROP. They said it can be fatal if the person isn't recessitated.

Everything else was FINE with me... blood pressure, heart, liver counts, etc. No medical condition that would have caused it for any reason, except dehydration. The doctor said I was taking in enough fluids for a "normal" day, but working in those conditions, I should have been constantly drinking water. But there was no way I would have felt it -- that's how Heat Collapse creeps up. You don't feel anything wrong, even if you're at the edge. It's like spending a day at the beach -- you could go for hours without a drink and not feel hot because you go in the water and there's a breeze.

It was VERY scary. I've never passed out before. I've never been in a hospital before. My parents were hundreds of miles away, my friends were out of town. I was there, alone in the emergency room, trying to figure out where 15 minutes of my life had gone.

After the weekend I get a call on Monday from the GM to give me the new schedule -- after essentially dropping dead in her theater, she schedules me 42 HOURS in 3 DAYS!! I told her I needed the week off, and started looking for another job.

So Jason, while my other post wasn't nearly as bitter as I feel about this situation, let me say that when the Carmike Cinemas Corporation is burned to the ground by the Wrath of God, I shall at that moment have my vengeance. [Smile]

Please proceed to the nearest exit.

=TMP=

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 07-19-2004, 11:34 AM:

See, Jason, I told you! [Big Grin]

Sorry to hear about that Thomas. That has got to be the biggest load of crap ever. I mean the way things are run there. The projectionist having to close concession, and not being allowed in the booth. [thumbsdown]

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-19-2004, 02:13 PM:

Thomas,

Ok, I'll go so far as to say I understand now how/why you passed out.

I can see your bitterness toward Carmike, in general, but, rest assured, I REPEAT, reast assured that not ALL Carmike locations are operated under the same manner. The older locations always seem to be run under a more stringent set of guidelines. While I understand this menatlity for the 'bean counters' I do not agree with it for the public perception is yields.

As with ANY chain, be it theatres or fast food or hotels, you get different service from different locations, plain and simple. It boils down to local level management and the manner in which they choose to run the business. There are to ways to run a business...
1) You run it effectively
2) You run it into the ground.

And Thomas, be glad you passed out on a conservative.. a 'Lib would have surely sued you for spilling their 'frosty cold drink' on them, thereby causing considerable bodily discomfort and personal trauma... [Eek!]

Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 07-19-2004, 02:54 PM:

Actually, I didn't ask the person's political affiliation, but are you implying that I should have sued Carmike? [Smile]

=TMP=

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-19-2004, 05:34 PM:

You didn't ask? Right as I became conscious, that would have been my first question. "I need .... to know the... political affiliations of everybody... standing over me!" [av=m]

Posted by Emma Tomiak (Member # 1862) on 07-19-2004, 08:18 PM:

Jason,

I'm sure I was probably somewhat dehydrated, not to mention very very tired. So here was most likely more to it than just exhaustion, but that was the bulk of it I'm sure.

I didn't mention this before b/c I forgot, but before I passed out a man came up to me and yelled at me about something being wrong with the sound in his auditorium. I called our (then) booth guy and he said he'd take care of it. Later, while I was laying on the floor surrounded by EMS people and equipment, the same guy came up to me and began yelling loudly at me about how I hadn't done anything and was lazy etc...

Before I even had a chance to respond, the EMS lady pretty much bitch-slapped him. It was awesome. [thumbsup]

PS: I will be sitting at work when I'm not threading/starting movies because I broke my second biggest toe on a splicer today.

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 07-19-2004, 09:13 PM:

quote: Emma Tomiak
I will be sitting at work when I'm not threading/starting movies because I broke my second biggest toe on a splicer today.

Now that sounds like the beginning of an interesting story... [Smile]

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-19-2004, 09:57 PM:

Emma - Paul,

Broke your tie on a splicer... please... tell us the rest of the story.. [Smile]

Thomas...
We already knew your party affiliation.. you've made it loud and clear so many times before.. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Emma Tomiak (Member # 1862) on 07-19-2004, 10:52 PM:

[Cool]

I think this could only happen to me.

I was taking a trailer off of our print of Spiderman 2. So I take the trailer off and splice the other trailers back together. I know not to set anything besides film on the platters, so I set the splicer on the floor next to the tree.

I finish threading, and as I'm walking around the projector, I accidentally kicked the splicer with my left foot. I think I didn't see it on the floor b/c it was immediately around a corner.

X=splicer (sorry, booth isn't usually that messy)

I actually didn't notice it was broken until about an hour later when I couldn't move my toes without horrible sharp stabbing pains.

This wouldn't have happened if I was wearing close-toed shoes and not black dress sandals, but what can I say, they make my feet and legs look damn good. [Big Grin]

So now you know how a rabid splicer attacked my toe. Beware the Neumade splicer.

Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 07-20-2004, 10:38 AM:

quote: Jason Black
Thomas...
We already knew your party affiliation.. you've made it loud and clear so many times before..

Wait... didn't you ask about the CUSTOMERS' party affiliation? Not mine? Stop all this flip-flop, doublespeak, fuzzylogic at once! [Razz]

I'm an independent, btw. It's just easier for the right to label me as a Democrat so I'm easier to attack. [Wink]

Emma -- Do you have any pictures of these fabulous, beautiful feet and legs which have been injured but undoubtedly are still beautiful? [Wink]

=TMP=

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-20-2004, 11:06 AM:

I'm shocked, shocked that blatant, sexist, looksism is rampant on Film-Tech. Yes, make with the photos forthwith!

Purely to make sure there are no unsubstantiated claims, you understand.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 07-20-2004, 02:21 PM:

I was going to ask for those pictures too but I don't want to get labeled one of the "Film-Tech perverts" and we all know who THEY are.

(Can we see the pictures now?)

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 07-20-2004, 06:18 PM:

This thread is now worthless without pics.. [Smile]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-20-2004, 06:21 PM:

I think we have learned two things.

*Proper foot wear is mandatory. (Sorry Emma, but I can't imagine someone working the booth in any kind of sandal.)

*Corners in booth from this point forth shall be outlawed.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-20-2004, 06:29 PM:

Is that a can of WD-40 on the rewind bench?

Posted by Emma Tomiak (Member # 1862) on 07-21-2004, 12:08 AM:

Hehehe Brad, I agree, corners should be banned. And after this incident, I can't imagine ever wearing open-toed sandals at work again. I'm sure I can find some nice close-toed shoes. But at least I can go out of dress code for a while until my foot heals and wear comfy sneakers. [thumbsup]

Yeah, that is a can of WD-40. It's only for that door in the background. The hinges get really tight and the door sometimes doesn't shut all the way, and since that door opens to a hallway accessible to the public, I spray it down often to make sure it stays closed.

Sorry guys, I you want to see my oh-so-pretty legs, you'll have to stop by Ft. Worth, TX and come to my theatre. [Wink]

PS- My toe has a big purple spot on the side and a bump that shouldn't be there. And it hurts a lot because my 110 lb. Labrador Turbo stepped on it. I'm going to get an x-ray tomorrow.

Posted by Martin Brooks (Member # 1269) on 07-21-2004, 12:30 AM:

quote:
aybe I am a bit old fasioned here, but if you are not on break, then you should be working. The last time I checked, theatres regardless of chains, ALWAYS have something to be cleaned, fixed, organized, checked on and what have you. Therefore, no chairs need to be provided for anybody at any floor level position including box office. On a side note, managers may use them if they are doing any paperwork or computer work during down times. Other than that, they should be out on the floor making their presence known to customers and staff and helping where needed.

Besides all that crap, chairs and stools being used by staff members on the floor looks ghetto when it is busy.

I don't buy it. There's nothing wrong with a cashier sitting on a stool or chair and in fact, I can't remember the last time I didn't see a movie theatre cashier who wasn't sitting.

And there's nothing wrong with a ticket taker sitting against a stool either.

In fact, as long as they're doing their jobs, everything is stocked and the counters are clean, I don't have a problem with the popcorn kids sitting on stools when it's not busy as long as they immediately get off their butts as soon as a customer approaches the counter.

Why are so many of you into torturing your employees? Give 'em a break..it's not like you're paying very much.

Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 07-21-2004, 12:33 AM:

Emma,

You need to add a line to your signature - "The woman with unlucky feet" [Wink]

Forget closed toe shoes, sounds like you need to invest in some steel toed shoes [Razz]

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-21-2004, 07:34 AM:

I mean come on it's 1978, things should be round by now!
--Michael Kelso, That 70's Show

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 07-21-2004, 10:14 AM:

I'd like to go on record that I would like to be called Mr. Kollet just like Mr. Fuentes....just for this thread [Cool]

[ 07-22-2004, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Dean Kollet ]

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 07-21-2004, 12:43 PM:

Good try Dean. [Big Grin]

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 07-22-2004, 10:27 AM:

damn [Frown]

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 07-30-2004, 07:46 PM: