That's not what she says on the version I saw, and that is an absolute guarantee!
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 06-10-2005, 08:43 PM:
Haha ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 06-11-2005, 01:04 AM:
Was by a film print tonight. She said Liberty.
Posted by Christos Mitsakis (Member # 143) on 06-11-2005, 08:32 AM:
OK, a word from overseas.
35mm version, clearly says "..this is how liberty dies.."
Not much of a big issue I think. Just for crazy fans to have to talk about.
C.
Posted by Dominic Espinosa (Member # 2122) on 06-20-2005, 10:48 AM:
All 3 of my prints said Liberty.
Posted by Robert John Jeromson (Member # 2559) on 06-20-2005, 07:33 PM:
In both of our prints she says "liberty" ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 06-21-2005, 10:01 AM:
Liberty.
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 06-23-2005, 03:24 PM:
In the print I saw, she said, "Take me from behind, Anakin!"
Posted by Kevin Wale (Member # 1851) on 06-23-2005, 05:04 PM:
I've seen it at two different theatres... she said liberty both times.
Posted by Robert Harrison (Member # 3202) on 06-26-2005, 03:23 PM:
This sort of reminds me of when I was working as an usher at the Golf Mill Theatres in Niles, Illinois in 1980 during the run of there of "The Empire Strikes Back." For most of the summer, we ran a 70 print. Towards the fall, we switched to a 35 in a smaller house and I noticed there were a couple of brief shots added, one involving Luke in a vat of liquid and an extra effects shot at the end as the camera panned over the rebel space ships.
Remember, anything is possible with George "I Think I'll Change That" Lucas. Where I work now, we still have a "Revenge of the Jedi" teaser poster. And, don't forget "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Death" being changed to "Temple of Doom" prior to release. And, Hayden Christensen being added to the end of "Jedi" on the DVD, etc.
Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 12-21-2018, 10:54 AM:
It has been 4925 days since the last post.
Posted by David Brown (Member # 8121) on 12-21-2018, 10:54 AM:
Sorry this is such a late reply to this topic.
The earlier quote "So this is how DEMOCRACY dies..." was the
dialog on the EARLY film release (which was allowed to be
previewed by film critics and the press). I was at a
theater here in Pittsburgh where ROTS was seen early, and
myself and all the ushers at the theater got to sit in on
that presentation too. We ALL heard (and remember) DEMOCRACY.
When opening night came, and all of the midnight shows were
pre-booked 100%, my same theater ALSO displayed the early print,
just because we wanted to show ROTS in every theater possible.
(we still had it, so why not show it)
Anyway, the OTHER (later) prints all had "LIBERTY". Several of
us all commented on this change in dialog (among others).
Anyway, once opening night had passed, (and we didnt need to show
so many 'sumultaneous' prints at the same time), we showed ONLY the later prints.
In other words, MANY people did actually hear DEMOCRACY, but only on DAY ONE -- and ONLY at the theater.
Noby else has ever heard DEMOCRADCY again after that opening date. Not at theaters, and not from the video releases (obviously)
P.S.
Anyone else remember Anakin saying...
ANAKIN: "They're getting CREAMED back there. Im going back to help"
OBI-WAN: "NO. They're doing their job...|"
8-) The CREAMED line struck a couple of us as funny, and we all looked at each other (in the darkened theater) when we heard it from the EARLY print.
DJB
Posted by Martin Brooks (Member # 1269) on 12-27-2018, 12:29 AM:
I remember "democracy" (although my memory has fooled me before) and I did see it opening day, but not preview day. In fact, I was working for a tech firm that was responsible for checking theater and presentation quality and I saw the film numerous times that first day, since it was playing on multiple screens. It looks like I checked 10 different screens, although only two in their entirety.
While the line obviously got changed at some point, I doubt very much if it was the first week because if they sent a new DCP, we would have been sent back to re-check the movie. If I had to guess, I'd bet it got changed when it went to home media.
Posted by Marcel Birgelen (Member # 6801) on 12-27-2018, 04:13 AM:
Well, your memory plays all kinds of tricks with you.
I also clearly remember "democracy" and I was somewhat amazed that I never heard it again. I remember (or I think I remember) because I found it somewhat odd to use the term "democracy" in conjuncture with the Star Wars franchise. I've seen it in the AMC Van Ness in San Francisco, roughly 3 days after its initial release.
Then again, this "first" episode is a strange mix of boring "intergalactic politics" and childish innuendo at something that could've been great.
It's a bit similar to the common confusion regarding Episode IV:
Darth Vader never actually said: "Luke, I am your father.", rather he said: "No, I am your father." *
I've always remembered it that way, but scores of people tend to differ on that one. It has even been used as "proof" of parallel universes due some failed quantum experiments or whatnot. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
* Should I've said "Spoiler Alert"?
Posted by Helmut Maripuu (Member # 2281) on 12-27-2018, 05:17 AM:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html
funny if you place the arrow where the sound changes from Laurel to Yanny and you walk around the room!
Posted by Allan Young (Member # 6332) on 12-27-2018, 07:48 AM: