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Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 10-13-2008, 08:28 PM:
 
I received the following info in both FAX and e-mail form today.
Apparantly, DHL will cease delivery of prints to/from DeLuxe Film Services on October 31st.

I don't know if this affects DHL nationwide, (USA) or just here in Northern California.

Text of e-mail & FAX follows:

From: Lindseyxxxxx@etsdirect.com
Date: October 10, 2008 4:01:04 PM PDT
To: Jimc5304xxxxx (addresses edited to protect from spammers)

Subject: ***IMPORTANT NOTICE***
***DHL CEASING DFS SERVICES OCTOBER 31ST***


Good Afternoon,

I regret to inform you that DHL has informed Deluxe Film Services that they are ceasing operations and will no longer be able to service your theatre after October 31st.

Please keep in mind that this letter only addresses prints that ship from Deluxe Film Services via DHL; we are not aware of how this decision affects other DHL business that you may be utilizing.

This decision was solely made by DHL, not Deluxe Film Services. Any questions or concerns can be addressed to your local DHL representative or myself.

Since the end of the month is fast approaching, you need to begin finding a local carrier to deliver your prints to and from your theatre.

If you do not find a local film carrier by the end of the month, there will be no way for your theatres to receive prints from the local DFS depot.

Below is a list of carriers that currently service other theatres out of the DFS San Francisco depot. Feel free to contact them and compare rates to determine which will best suite your shipping needs. Please note that you are not required to use one of the carriers listed below.

- - A LONG LIST OF LOCAL COURIER SERVICES WAS INSERTED HERE - -

Like you did previously with Theatre Transit, you are to set up an account with a carrier who will pick up your prints from our depot, deliver them to your theatre and then return them to our depot after your engagement. Any shipping related questions will be directed towards the carrier as the carrier is employed directly by you, the theatre, not Deluxe Film Services.

Once you have chosen which local film carrier to use, please notify me immediately so I can update the DFS system. It is very important that DFS has accurate carrier information for your theatre(s) to guarantee you receive the correct prints in a timely manner.

Please contact me with any questions about this matter. Thank you.

Lindsey Chespak
DELUXE | FILM SERVICES
Manager of Film Recovery
7620 Airport Business Parkway , Bldg #4

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[ 10-14-2008, 09:13 AM: Message edited by: Jim Cassedy ]
 
Posted by Ky Boyd (Member # 23) on 10-13-2008, 08:38 PM:
 
Jim, Yes this is true. DHL is bailing on their contract and DFS is bailing on finding a solution to the problem by basically sending a fax and e-mail saying that every theatre has to solve the problem of how to get their DFS prints themselves.

Gary Meyer and I are working to see if we can organize a large group of exhibitors to be able to make a film shipping deal for DFS prints. Please e-mail me directly and I can add your name to the group list so that you are included in future communications about this.

We are also making contact with the appropriate folks at Regal and Cinemark, but don't have any contact info for the appropriate person for AMC's Northern California locations. Anyone who can help provide an appropriate level contact would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-13-2008, 08:42 PM:
 
We have a local depot that brings us our Deluxe prints (usually in those lame boxes). How they get them is beyond me. If I were a studio I'd definitely be going through TES nowadays.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 10-13-2008, 11:13 PM:
 
DHL pulled out of Montana a few weeks ago and our state film depot in Butte closed, so now all of our prints (TES and Deluxe both) are being shipped via UPS. Deluxe prints come out of Denver, and TES from Ontario, Calif. Cost is $25 per print each way, not a bad deal.

I agree with Joe, TES is looking like the better alternative. At least they took the pro-active stance and made the deal with UPS themselves, thereby getting a lot better rate than DFS customers will on their own.
 
Posted by Joe Elliott (Member # 4006) on 10-14-2008, 01:27 AM:
 
Ours are the opposite, TES prints are delivered by DHL and DFS prints are delivered by Benton Brothers Film Service. I hope they don't do the same with TES prints. As it is Access IT switched from DHL to UPS, and the local UPS guy refuses to check with us when he drops stuff off. He will leave it with the first employee he runs across, if he even bothers stopping by at all. He's been the same guy for years, and the current manager and previous manager have complained about him. He's still working for them, and still does the same thing. We would never get prints on time. As it is we've had to call repeatedly and yell and scream just to get overnight packages of projector parts delivered on the day they are supposed to be delivered.
 
Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 10-16-2008, 08:15 AM:
 
File a complaint with the shipper and consistently demand a refund for services "charged, not rendered" from UPS. Nothing will work quite like "getting into their pocket." Your deliveryman may well be reassigned or terminated; UPS doesn't take kindly to losses. Louis
 
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 10-16-2008, 02:36 PM:
 
Just got this in today from Technicolor.

October 16, 2008

IMPORTANT TECHNICOLOR SERVICE UPDATE

Attention Theatre Management/Ownership,

Technicolor Cinema Distribution is pleased to annouce it's partnership with UPS effective the first week of December. UPS will be the primary shipper for your 35mm film prints from Technicolor. UPS is the largest shipping company in the United States with over 1,600 Service Centers across the country. Most of you already use UPS in some capacity.

UPS has been delivering Technicolor shipments to more that 10% of the theatre community since September 15th. They already provide service for Technicolor Marketing, Screen Advertising and Digital shipments.

Currently you are invoiced through DHL for your Technicolor shipments. Once you beginreceiving shipments via UPS, you will be invoiced by Technicolor. If you are currently receiving invoices from Technicolor for marketing, film shipments will be added to these billings. The payment terms will be:

Net 14 days (effective November 1, 2008 for Marketing)
COD (cash on delivery) If payable becomes 60 days or more past due.
Please stay current with Technicolor payments-COD will entail the UPS driver making film deliveries only if the check for the entire past due balance is presented upon the driver's arrival.
Please Note-- the past due balancemust be paid for both Print and Marketing Materials, regardless of what product the driver is delivering that day.

We appreciate your cooperation during this transition. We will be sending out another communication in the near feature (that's what they wrote) with additional details about your 35mm deliveries and returns with UPS.

Technicolor Cinema Distribution
 
Posted by Mike Sellars (Member # 4042) on 10-16-2008, 03:36 PM:
 
Bill,

Yep... just got the same notice here.

Mike
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-16-2008, 03:40 PM:
 
Nobody could have expected DHL to last, right? After all... they're DHL! I had a friend who worked for them and he said they were pretty shifty.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 10-16-2008, 06:46 PM:
 
DHL is still around, they're just pulling out of some areas (rural) of the country. They partnered with the post office to deliver stuff to smaller towns. I wouldn't be surprised to see UPS do it too....every town has a post office and it would be a lot easier for them to ship everything to the post office and let them deliver it (or hold for pickup). But overall, UPS's rates are high enough that they can afford to keep the giant fleet of trucks running - for now.
 
Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 10-16-2008, 09:13 PM:
 
Our Deluxe prints are delivered by Highway Film Service, a division of Clark Transportation, The driver is an independent courier in his own truck and covers the eastern third of Va. and a little of NC. Mel has been running the route for 30 years works one or two days a week, he says the money is excellent.
 
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 10-17-2008, 10:25 PM:
 
Any of those 10%-ers here? Are we going to still retain the concept of a 2-hour window, or will it be more open?

Bill: I like "in the near feature" it means it was written by somebody who Thinks Movies, rather than some unconnected marketing suit. That's a good thing [Smile]

--jhawk
 
Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 10-18-2008, 06:06 AM:
 
John,

Not a MOVIE person at all, just poor enunciation for the "speak to type" program.
[Frown]

Both DHL and the currier service have keys to the theatre and can make deliveries while the building is unattended. I don't know if UPS will be able to offer this same service.

[ 10-20-2008, 06:46 AM: Message edited by: Kenneth Wuepper ]
 
Posted by Joe Elliott (Member # 4006) on 10-19-2008, 10:50 PM:
 
Unfortunately we did recieve a similar letter from Technicolor, who uses DHL in our area. UPS guy isn't going to be happy. He won't be able to skip out on us anymore.
 
Posted by Timothy Eiler (Member # 383) on 10-20-2008, 11:53 AM:
 
quote: Kenneth Wuepper
Both DHL and the currier service have keys to the theatre and can make deliveries while the building is unattended. I don't know if UPS will be able to offer this same service.
UPS will not accept a key (responsibility) for your theater. I have to Pick up/ drop off my films at the local UPS station
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 10-20-2008, 01:03 PM:
 
You can also have your films delivered to an alternate location if you want. I have our films shipped to (and picked up from) my day job. Just call your Deluxe person and have them put the address you want into their database. This works with Technicolor too. We haven't had a film picked up from the actual theatre in at least 20 years.
 
Posted by Tony Ratcliff (Member # 1196) on 10-20-2008, 07:31 PM:
 
I just received the letter from Technicolor today.
So here in Indiana UPS is taking it over as well.

We'll see what happens. I sure hope they retain the 2-hour window and key thing.
 
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 10-27-2008, 11:45 PM:
 
Yep, got the same letter on this side of Indiana as well.
Yee ha!
 
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 11-10-2008, 07:40 AM:
 
DHL is cutting 9,500 jobs from their US market and closing all Express Service Centers after losing over $200 Million. They had announced 4,500 job cuts, but they are bring it up to 9,500. The Express unit of the company in the US has 18,000 workers.
 
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 12-01-2008, 06:27 PM:
 
It's December. Anyone heard anything further?

--jhawk
 
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 12-01-2008, 07:14 PM:
 
Technicolor Cinema Distribution sent a fax out on 11/27/2008 on service.

Transition Dates to Remember - The last day DHL will be making 35mm deliveries for Techicolor is Thursday December 4th. The last day DHL will be making 35mm pickups is Friday, November 28th. UPS will start making deliveries on Friday, December 5th. and begin making pickups on Monday, December 1st.

There is more stuff about UPS rep making a visit to learn more about your location. Technicolor has created training information regarding 35mm film shipments for the drivers.

Delivery and pickup windows - UPS is working to determine target delivery and pickup times for your theatre based on your past delivery history. These will be your new window times. We expect to have your target delivery and pickup times for your theatre by early next week. We will communicate them to you as soon as we receive them from UPS There will be less flexibility with UPS delivery windows then you experienced with DHL. If for some reason you cannot have someone at your theatre during this window on delivery or pickup days, we have two options.

1. First, your account can set up to have a care-of location; your prints would be delivered to an appoved neighboring business willing to accept delivery and pickups of your prints during your window.

2. As a second option, your account can be set up to deliver to the UPS Service Center in your area. If you select this option, you would be required to pickup and drop off your prints at the center.

This was just afew things in that fax. The rest talks about billing for 35mm shipments with UPS.
 
Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 12-02-2008, 12:01 PM:
 
I recently got a phone call from UPS. They set up everything with me over the phone.

At this point, I know how they think they'll serve my place. If my films show up on the same truck they bring my posters (and everything else) in, there shouldn't be any problem.
 
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 12-02-2008, 09:09 PM:
 
Never received said fax.
But did like Jack, set it up all over the phone after a fellow called me.

He tried his best to avoid the key method, but simply does not work in our world. So, they are setup just like DHL.

Next day the driver ask about it. She already knew something was happening and that she was to pickup a key. She had not received any training...except what I gave her.

She had not been informed of pickup or drop off times/days. What the film can's looked like, nothing as yet. This was yesterday (Monday).
 
Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 12-03-2008, 06:13 AM:
 
Our UPS driver informed us that there would be a $16.50 surcharge for "NON BOXED ITEM" shipments. The film cans are not in a box so they will charge extra for NOT putting them on the conveyors. I assume that damaged or sharp cans could tear the belts.

Perhaps now all shipments will come in the "Fox Boxes"!

KEN
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-03-2008, 09:33 AM:
 
UPS has long had a policy of charging an "additional handling" fee for items not in cardboard boxes. For years, I have been buying 16x16 boxes from W. W. Grainger (item #3W206) and whenever we have a two-can shipment, I put both cans in one box for shipping. It is much cheaper (on UPS) to send them that way than separately, and it has the added advantage of keeping the two cans together.

Another thing happening lately: I have noticed Deluxe shipments from Denver coming in with the weight grossly overestimated on the labels. A one-box shipment with a label reading 60 pounds actually weighed 43 pounds. UPS will adjust your billing upwards if you under-state the weight of a package, but they WILL NOT lower your billing if you over-state the weight. I suggest everyone should keep a close eye on this and complain to DFS if the weights aren't more accurate.
 
Posted by Tony Ratcliff (Member # 1196) on 12-03-2008, 07:34 PM:
 
We got a phone call from UPS a couple weeks ago.
They asked when we are around to have films delivered.
We told them we open every day at 3:30pm.
They said, "OK. Your window will be 3-5pm"
I thought this will work out great since UPS refuses to do the key thing.
But now I just got a letter saying my window is 1-4pm!???

If they are going to assign whatever window they want, then why did they bother calling and acting all nice!?

Luckily we are in good with the regular UPS driver, so I'm confident she at least will delivery after 3:30pm - she does that now. But when she's on vacation we could have issues.
 
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 12-03-2008, 09:06 PM:
 
Tony, they are doing the "key thing" for us and two other theatres that I know of.
 
Posted by Tony Ratcliff (Member # 1196) on 12-04-2008, 03:43 PM:
 
That's very interesting Brad.
The letter specifically said they will NOT do keys.

Thanks for letting us know.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-05-2008, 11:26 AM:
 
Those mass produced letters ALWAYS have wiggle room even if they don't say they will.

Technicolor said "All prints must now be picked up and delivered at the theatre." When they called me, I said that won't work. I was ready for a fight, but they were accommodating. So our prints are still picked up and delivered at my day job where they always have been. Granted - in this small town it's a lot easier thing to pull off in a large city where you might have more than one driver serving your location.
 
Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 12-05-2008, 12:00 PM:
 
I am worried about when our regular driver goes on vacation, too. I currently have a stack of their little sticky notes that say I am releasing delivery that I signed and my guy carries in his truck. He just grabs one whenever someone isn't here and it requires a signature.
 
Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 12-05-2008, 01:09 PM:
 
I got the Tech Letter also that said they won't do the key thing. It also said someone from UPS would drop by to talk about the new service. A week or so prior to this, someone from UPS called and told me she was assigned to the transition and to call if there were any problems.

So last week I gave the woman a call. She said someone from the local depot would be in touch with me within a couple of days and set up a time to get the key. A week later, nothing, so I called again. She said someone would call me right back. Nothing for two days. Call again, same answer, same result. This morning I called and she said she was going to get him on the other line and call me right back. 3hrs later and I've heard nothing.

This is the kind of service and response I've come to expect from UPS administration.

We're closed until January, so the only thing I have is one outgoing film. So far, I am not confident about getting our first film next year.
 
Posted by Benny Walters (Member # 4894) on 12-05-2008, 05:57 PM:
 
DHL is not just pulling out of some rural areas but is completely done with domestic shipping here in the US. The Wilmington area of Ohio will be hard hit as they are closing an air hub there.
 




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