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Posted by George Roher (Member # 91) on 08-13-2000, 10:37 PM:
Have you all noticed how utterly unimaginative the names of new theatres are these days? Many theatre names are just a combination of the company name, the name of the shopping mall it's in, and the number of screens. There doesn't seem to be much thought going into it. What are the worst names for theatres you guys have seen?
Posted by Christopher K. Williams (Member # 418) on 08-14-2000, 01:00 AM:
Wasn't there a UA theater in the Picture Warehouse called the "United Artists" before they changed it?Also, there is a new theater being built near me by a small company called Galaxy Theaters. If I'm not mistaken, they are naming it... you guessed it... the Galaxy 12. I guess since this is their first theater in Washington State they figure they'll get their name out better this way or something.
My theater's name is the Bella Bottega 11 Cinemas. Most people (even locals sometimes) respond with a "Huh??!!" when I tell them where I work.
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 08-14-2000, 03:08 AM:
You hit that nail on the head. For example, you can always tell how old a Cinemark theater is. First-generation = "Movies x". Second-generation "Tinseltown x", and the latest "Cinemark x", with x being the number of screens.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 08-14-2000, 10:15 AM:
Rochester NY has two Cinemark plexes: "Movies-10" (second run) and "Tinseltown-16" (first run and IMAX SR 3D) that opened about the same time. Regal (18, 16 and 13 screens), Loew's Cineplex (12 screens), General Cinema (7 and 6 screens), Hoyts (12 screens) and independents also share the market of over 200 screens.------------------
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Posted by Rory Burke (Member # 512) on 08-14-2000, 02:48 PM:
Try "Cinepolis" !!!!! I like it for some reason. They are a big movie theater company in Mexico.
Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 08-14-2000, 03:18 PM:
The Cooper in Denver was the best theatre in town. It was built as a Cinerama house by the Cooper/Highland Corp. and had the best of everything. It's where I first saw Star Wars in 1977 in 70mm/6 track mag. About 1980 they built a smaller auditorium next to the big house and called it the Cameo.UA picked it up about 1990 and since it was the premire house they ripped the 60 foot neon sign that said Cooper off of the buiding and replaced it with a little sign that said The United Artist.
Buisness dropped. the theatre never recovered and UA sold it and now it is a Barnes and Noble.
UA didn't change the name of the Continental. After much struggle, they did turn it into a 6 plex but left the big screen whole. It is doing well.
When we started our theatre in January it was called the Lakeside 5 Cinemas. The shopping centers' name is Lakeside. We wanted to change the name of the theatre to reflect the change in ownership and programming. We changed the name to Rialto Cinemas Lakeside. We kept the Lakeside so that people would know where we were. People are still confused. They call us up and ask where we are located. They don't get it until they walk into the place.
Then what I love is that people still don't get that we have changed. They bring in all there old coupons and gift certificates and expect us to honor them.
Posted by Richard C. Wolfe (Member # 431) on 08-14-2000, 09:35 PM:
Ian,I wonder how many people know what the word Rialto means? Not many,I'm sure. There was a reason that name was used so often in the days of the movie palace, and of course it had to do with the meaning of the word.
Back then whether the theatre was a palace or not, the owners wanted to give the impression that it was something special, thus all the names like: Majestic, Imperial, Embassy, State, Palace, Regent. Or they were named after well known people of wealth or public stature both in and out of the world of show business such as Astor, Roxy, Kieths, Loew's etc.
Somehow I still like those names better then Megamovie 24 or whatever. Of course the new names pretty well discribe what the new theatres are like..."plain".
I often see posts where people discribe some great single screen theatre from the 60s with a huge seating capacity of 800 to 1,000. HUGE? The theatres I remember going to had 1,500 to 2,500 seats and that was because we were in a small city. The big cities had 3,000, 4,000 and 5,000 seat houses! The only thing that those 60s theatres had that remotely resembled showmanship or class was that they had a curtain, but nothing else.
I will admit that some of the megaplexes built within the last several years have improved greatly on their aesthetic aspects...more architectural design treatment in the lobbies and auditoriums, nicer light fixtures, fancier carpets...but NO curtains!
Oh well, I'd be happy if they just gave them some imaginative names.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 08-14-2000, 09:54 PM:
Possibly I'm just starting a flame war here, but what is the big deal about curtains? The older movie theatres only had curtains becasue they were originaly stage theater's. I mean, a curtain is a VERY expenisve thing. I've been to theatres that have curtains. I just don't get why they're so special.
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 08-14-2000, 09:56 PM:
Ian: Before it was the Lakeside, it was the Christian Life Center (after they had moved out of what is now the Luther Burbank Center for the Arts)and before that it was the Park Cinemas I and II, a rather ugly twin, albeit a union house with 4 projectors (6000' changeovers, 2 Ballantynes and 2 Brenkert 80s), the only film I had seen there was 'Jaws 3-D' in 1983...
Aaron
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 08-14-2000, 09:58 PM:
Drive-Ins have had some rather interesting, innovative, and downright STUPID names...Aaron
Posted by Andrew D'Vrey (Member # 285) on 08-14-2000, 10:58 PM:
Maybe I'm just not old enough to have caught the full drive-in persona, but is it my imagination or do many of them have the word "Hi" in the name. Such as Vali-Hi in St. Paul, MN. Does "Hi" have significance?But I agree...theater names seem to be lacking these days...out here it's all:
Shopping Mall Name 14
City Name 16
Theater Change 20
I think the only theater in the Twin Cities, MN metro area with any decent originality is the Lagoon in Minneapolis. Vali-Hi doesn't get my vote for originality because it isn't in a valley, it's on a hill...so maybe it's some play on that with the "Hi" and all, but I don't get it.
Posted by Scott McFly (Member # 556) on 08-14-2000, 11:28 PM:
i like our theater name, Cinema Hollywood. its mid-michigans movie palace.
Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 08-15-2000, 12:28 AM:
Aaron,At least my theatre is near a park and if you stand on the roof you can see the lake. We could have changed the name to [5]Crap Box 5[/b], but I think that might have impacted ticket sales. Along with theatre names having no imagination, Street names no longer have any originality. Shopping mall names have no originality. Housing developments have no originality in their names anymore. All you need to do is try a combine the words Oak, Wood, View, and Stone into something that is not quite like the combination down the street.
Rialto means theatre district in Italian, specifically the theatre district in Venice. We are trying to be an "arty" theatre hence the "arty" name. Ky originally liked the name Paradise but I didn't, we're not there yet.
I noticed that when the other theatre chain in town built their new 14 plex, they placed the name in easy to remove 24" letters. What you see from the street in 50-foot letters is STADIUM 14.
Posted by Charles Lubner (Member # 157) on 08-15-2000, 02:16 AM:
Like Cinemark, you can tell what year a Marcus Theatre was built in by it's name. The originals were called the Marc Cinema-City Name (60's, 70's), then came the "cardinal directions"...ex: Northtown, Westown, Westpoint, North Shore, Eastgate, etc.(80's), and now the new 20 plexes are called Marcus Cinemas-City Name. In some of the "cardinal direction" theatres from the 80's, each auditorium had a name, such as the Fox, Bijou, Tivoli, etc. A colored plastic marquee and miniature clear light bulbs surrounded the doorway, which made a nicer entrance that just slapping up a #6 above the doorway. The movie title would be place on marquee track next to the auditorium name, so when you went to the nameless multiplex, you still had that old-time feeling by seeing a movie at the Roxy :-)
I liked the first Marcus Theatre I was at, the Rivoli Cinema. A 300 seat 1 screener, the name is French (rue de Rivoli, famous Parisian shopping street) and has had a few famous counterparts, most notably the Rivoli Theatre in New York, which was the first cinema to feature air conditioning! I've also been to the Rivoli Cinema in Rome, also a 1 screener :-), which was showing a Fellini film at the time.
I agree the Shopping Center 16 or the General Cinemas-Oakdalefairstoneridge 20 is a bit generic. It would be cool to resurrect some of the classic names, especially since all the chains are hellbent on putting neon everywhere!!
***Message for Mike Spaeth...
Marcus took over the Cinemark Movies 10 in Milwaukee last year, and we converted it to the Marcus Cinemas-Southgate. Very easily confused with the South Shore and Southtown which are only a few miles away. After adding 4 screens and converting to all stadium seating, we're finally getting around to ripping off the Movies 10 sign to replace it with the signature Marcus neon, complete with neon globes and glass block towers.
http://www.businesswire.com/cnn/marcus/cinema.jpg
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 08-15-2000, 02:31 AM:
I didn't realize we had a location in Milwaukee. Was it perhaps one that was closed before Marcus bought it? I've worked for Cinemark since March 1999.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 08-15-2000, 06:02 AM:
I agree that many theatres have really boring names. [company name] [city or shopping mall name] [# of screens] is just way too common as a naming formula.
On the other hand, I've worked in to places that were built in the 1930s that have generic-sounding names as well: the Williamsburg Theatre is a theatre in Williamsburg, Va.; the Cape Cinema is a cinema on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. Boring, I suppose, but at least people reading the newspaper ads would know where the places were...
Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 08-15-2000, 08:51 AM:
The worst? INTERCHANGE 30. A new AMC 30 named for the freeway exit nearby in Toronto.
My favorites? The "Carib & Casbar" DI in Quesnel BC, "Auto Ski" DI (???) in Ottawa,
numerous "Do" Drive-In's, and the "Dependable" Drive-In somewhere in PA (still open). Stupid DI names? Oh yes, the "Sunrise", forget where.
Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 08-15-2000, 11:09 AM:
Cinemark has had some VERY unoriginal theatre names. Movies 6, Movies 10 etc, Then they got into the Hollywood naming theme, Then cam Tinseltown, but here are a few that top the list of bad names,
Cinemark 17
The Tulsa - By CinemarkI like their theatres and I like the company, but they could have done better with the naming
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-15-2000, 12:44 PM:
"The Tulsa". haha, pretty funny!Wonder when they will open "The Theater"?
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 08-15-2000, 07:08 PM:
Yeah - they've got this "original" name thing going on w/ their flagships - "The Legacy" in Plano - "The Palace" in Kansas City - "The Tulsa" in Tulsa. I don't know how well the theater is doing, but the IMAX is doing over 1 million admissions/year on their one 200-seat auditorium (of course, it doesn't hurt when you can fit 13 showtimes/day)
Posted by George Roher (Member # 91) on 08-15-2000, 10:18 PM:
We actually have a theatre here named "The Cinema". It's been owned by multiple companies, but it's always been called "The Cinema". It's a single screen.
Posted by Richard C. Wolfe (Member # 431) on 08-15-2000, 10:59 PM:
Dustin:We've done this curtain thing in here before, I'd hate to repete it all again.
It's summed up in just one word...the one word that best discribes our very reason for doing that which we do...."Showmanship".
Showmanship: "having a flair for dramatic or visual effectiveness"
There is a great deal of difference between just projecting a film on a screen... and performing theatrical showmanship in such a way as to blend lighting, sound, and curtains in such a manner as to stimulate the senses in a way that makes the theatre going experience more pleasing and exciting.
Allow me to quote Arthur Mayer in "Merely Colossal" back in 1955. "The major difference between a de luxe and and other movie show consists of closing the curtains after the feature film, re-opening them for the shorts, closing them again and re-opening them for the news."
This was the standard when movies were King!
I would guess that you are too young to have experienced that. If only you, and everyone else under 40 knew what you missed, you would never be satisfied with what you have today.
Posted by Dave Bird (Member # 490) on 08-16-2000, 06:03 PM:
Richard, I'm just under 30, but agree with you. I about cried when last winter, I was alone overnight at some training, and stumbled upon a beautifully restored neighborhood house called the O'Brien in Renfrew Ontario. Saw the Green Mile. Wonderful green with gold leaf and gold velvet curtain. Everthing was right, curtain opens national anthem - trailers curtains close - open again for feature - house lights dimmed (but of course never off) for the feature. This is how it still was in rural Ontario as a kid. And now, just white painted walls and deafening sound.
I weep! At least some of the outdoors are still around.
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 08-20-2000, 09:09 PM:
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Such as Vali-Hi in St. Paul, MN. Does "Hi" have significance?
Highway?
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downright STUPID names...
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Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 08-29-2000, 07:49 AM:
*ponders*Most names of cinemas in Maine consist of [Company Name] {City / Town / Mall / Shopping Complex} (number of screens)....
*yawn* A definite lack of creativity!
Though, there are a few around that don't fall into that 'formula'. Such as:
~The Movies On Exchange Street (still not original, but it is out of the formula)
~Keystone Theatre Cafe
~Evningstar Cinema
~The Nickelodeon
...I can't think of any others off the top of my head that are still running! Used to be one called The Movie Mill, which had beautiful presentation, and another called Chunky's, which had comfy, oversized seating options (think along the lines of a sofa or loveseat)...
~GLB
Posted by Michael Pace (Member # 553) on 09-02-2000, 08:45 AM:
With reference to the naming of cimemas, one of the cinemas I worked at in Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea was WARDS CINEMA.It was named after the landing strip that was used in WW2 for aircraft activities against the Japanese invasion of the Pacific Islands areas. On the adjacent Skyline Drive-in site were remains of aircraft engines and at one time an un-exploded projectile was taken away by the army for detonation. The army officer turned white when he was told that the projectile had been tossed around for several days before they were informed of its existance.
Remains of the actual runway were still visible well into the eighties when I was still in PNG.
Michael.
Posted by Scott D. Neff (Member # 185) on 09-26-2000, 06:31 AM:
Could somebody please give me the key to decipher how Dickinson named all their theatres? I think those are some of the most unoriginal theatre names ever.One of our on-going complaints to the owner of Cinema West was that he simply named the new theatres after the town they were in... COMPLETELY unoriginal.
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 09-26-2000, 01:04 PM:
They have this fetish with "Glen" - the founder's name was Glen Dickinson. Their original flagship was the "Glenwood." They later built the "Southglen 12," the "Westglen 12 (then 18)," the "Eastglen 16", and are in the process of building the "Northglen." Rumor has it they want to change the name of the "Great Mall 16" to the "Southglen 16" (they closed the original Southglen), so they can have their "dream" or whatever of a "Glen" in every direction.
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 09-27-2000, 12:25 AM:
Maybe things haven't changed much.
It used to be that there was about a 90% chance of any particular theater in a US city was namedParamount
Majestic
Lyric
or
Roxy
and there were smaller, more briefly fashionable names like Family Theatre or Electric Theatre.
Posted by Franklin Armstrong (Member # 1448) on 01-28-2003, 01:14 AM:
Mine Is SANDLAKE 7 CINEMAS we are on sandlake road
Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 01-28-2003, 01:50 AM:
Considering the average person out there doesnt give a crap about quality presentation(thanks to all theater chains sucking in this department brainwashing a whole generationof moviegoers into thinking dim projector bulbs are the standard) compared to location and his stupid popcorn, it is really not that stupid to name your location after the street or shopping mall. People know exactly where your theater is by the name.
Unless you are an owner committed to a great presentation with nice looking interiors, and have a really nice name in mind, you are better off using the current format used for many theater names.
Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 01-28-2003, 06:48 AM:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that "all" of the Carmike "Windsong" theatres are named after the CEO's (Michael Patrick) son, Wind.
Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 01-28-2003, 09:11 AM:
Actually, the Carmikes you are referring to are called Wynnsong, not WINDsong. They're named for their parent company (?) Eastwynn Theatres.
=TMP=
Posted by Robert E. Allen (Member # 1351) on 01-28-2003, 09:49 PM:
Not true Dustin!
Most of the theatres I worked in during the 50s and 60s were built as movie theatres. The curtains add to the effect that a performance is taking place. The most beautiful set of curtains I ever saw was at the United Artest theatre in Pomona, California. It featured a master "teardrop" curtain which was raised as the houselights were faded. Then the picture hit the title curtain and after the trademark played off the title curtain opened as the music and title faded in. This was most effective during CinemaScope presentations when the title curtain was opened during the 20th Century Fox logo just as the "CinemaScope" addition played to a width patrons had never seen before.
Today, most multiplexes not only do not have curtains but crop the 'scope pictures in most cases to a 2.00 x 1 ratio rather than it's true 2.39 x 1 ratio cheating the public out of the ambience and about a third of the picture.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-28-2003, 09:59 PM:
The 2.1 crop must be something common in your part of the country. There are very few theaters in this area that do that.
Personally I always thought the worst names for a theater was the UA Plaza in Dallas. This one was called "The United Artists" for several years, until finally someone at the corporate office awoke from their coma and realized what a stupid idea that was.
The other "worst name" actually belongs to the Cinemark chain. For years they called ALL of their theaters "Movies 8" or "Movies 12", etc. Oh yeah, that's REAL descriptive. Give me a street name buried in the theater name any day! Of course later they got on a kick of calling all of their theaters Hollywood USA, and more recently they call themselves Tinseltown. There really does need to be a little more thought put into these names.
Posted by Robert E. Allen (Member # 1351) on 01-28-2003, 10:01 PM:
Pravin:
I read in Boxoffice recently that a survey was taken and 67% of those responding said they chose a theatre because of the screen presentation. So there's hope for those of us who still believe the projection room is "the heart of the theatre". But I agree that the corporate big boys need to get their butts off their padded chairs and their eyes on more screens to correct a problem that, I believe, certainly added to the reasons most of them filed for bankruptsy.
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 01-28-2003, 10:54 PM: