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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-18-2000, 07:02 PM:
Does anyone have examples of totally wrong non-sync to play before a particular feature? Ones I would love to inflict on a paying audience but have never dared include...'Driving in my Car' by Madness before 'Crash'
'Stand by your man' by Tammy Wynette as customers are walking in to see a feminist art movie
'The March to the Scaffold' by Berlioz before any film about the death penalty...
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 09-18-2000, 07:21 PM:
I remember a old projectionist who used to play marching music and the little old ladies on there afternoon special used to think it was grand
If only they new how sick this guy was he would play marches of the SS for the Jewish Ladies retirment matineesAfter it was discovered he was let go
Posted by George Roher (Member # 91) on 09-18-2000, 10:11 PM:
I've been running "Ben Hur" and I've found myself with the urge to put on Eric Idle's "Always Look at the Bright Side of Life" immediately after the film concludes. I haven't done it of course, just thought about it.
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 09-19-2000, 12:39 AM:
I have to make sure that whatever I put on for music for non-sync is in the public domain! 
As I would prefer to not be scolded... Funny thing though, all the ones that get played are from my own music collection, making it rather tempting to swap out a few things... 
Bah. I behave, during business hours anyway. Our selection usually rotates between Classical Meditation, vol 1 & 2, or some Liszt, Chopin, Vivaldi, Gershwin, or Holst.
AFter-hours on Thursday is another matter entirely! 
~Gracia *The projectionist with the purple hair* Babbidge
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In some cultures, what I do is considered normal.
Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 09-19-2000, 03:08 AM:
I'll confess to messing up a few times getting used to the equipment at the theater I just started working at (no problems tonight though!) My first couple days I kept forgetting how different the Strong platters are from Christies (yes, Christies are better!) so films would start but the take-up platter wouldn't take up, stopping the film and subjecting the audience to more "Theater Radio Network". The last time I did this the CD was playing "Oops, I Did it Again" by Britney Spears! (First time I ever heard that song, too!)
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 09-19-2000, 02:25 PM:
At the old indoor I worked at when I was a kid, we always had Glenn Miller hits. And if I got tired of that, I could change it for the Benny Goodman or Mantovani 8-track. I think we had a Henry Mancini tape, too, when we wanted to get radical.I grew to appreciate that style of music though, and when I DO listen to music radio today (rarely), it's always the Big Band stations!
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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-19-2000, 02:54 PM:
The projectionist who played Nazi marches sounds like a charming bloke... One thing struck me, though: where did he get them from? I mean, you can't exactly walk into your local Virgin megastore, head for the easy listening section and pick up a 'Best of the SS' double-CD compilation!
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-19-2000, 06:08 PM:
My ex-bosses (back in the 70s) had an 8-track player for pre-show music. Somebody gave them a "quad" tape (remember them?) of Lynn Anderson's "Rose Garden" album...so when it played, half the time we'd hear the vocals + one or two instruments, and the rest of the time we'd hear the rest of the instruments, due to the way a quad tape sounded in a standard player. When I tried to explain it to them, they said "it sounds fine to us...leave it alone" so we were forced to live with it until they retired.Apologies to you young folks, who possibly don't understand any of the above!!
Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 09-20-2000, 12:08 AM:
Hey, I've got a quad 8-track player hooked up to my 'home theater' system- it rocks! I've always wanted to hook it up to a theater's sound system, I was disappointed to see the CP500s only have 2-channel non-sync even though they finally added regular RCA jacks for them.
You simply have not lived until you've heard Enoch Light's "Permissive Polyphonics" in quad- it's 'Muzak-style' covers of songs like "Let it Be" and "Scarborough Fair" done with Moog synthesizers that gratuitously pan through all 4 channels, with some parts sung by "studio-type" vocalists.
Posted by Dwayne Caldwell (Member # 417) on 09-20-2000, 02:40 PM:
Play some Beastie Boys or Insane Clown Posse for your non-snyc. You'll get reprimanded or let go real quick. Not that I speak from personal experience or anything.Personally, I've been tempted to play music that's just plain iritating. Bagpipe music, Herb Albert, or the entire Ravenous soundtrack in general. And I was tempted on a few occasions to sync a CD with the end credits that just wouldn't match. For instance playing some obscure track from one of Jerry Goldsmith's soundtracks like Total Recall or First Blood as the end credit music for Duets or Nurse Betty.
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Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 09-20-2000, 06:50 PM:
Young man Bagpipes arn't irratating
I fye are not carefull a wild hagas will attack ye
Posted by Dwayne Caldwell (Member # 417) on 09-21-2000, 01:19 AM:
Well I do have to admit I like James Horner's music. ------------------
The man with the magic hands.
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 09-21-2000, 01:25 AM:
>>Play some Beastie Boys or Insane Clown Posse for your non-snyc.<<I went to one of our theatres on a routine general service call and powered up the booth , the CD player started automatically on power-up and I was working on some things in the booth then went downstairs to check a masking problem and opened the auditorium doors and the speakers in the house were cranking out Rap...complete with full-on profanity... I ran upstairs and opened the CD player (a 5-disc changer) and i couldn;t believe what was in there... Along with the obligatory Yanni and Enya discs were the X-Files soundtrack which is 'hard' enough as-is, and the source of all the profanity; the 'He Got Game' soundtrack!! I removed them and asked the manager WHY they were in there in the first place... The soundtracks were given to the theaters as promotional items, and the manager figured they were for use as non-sync music... I gave him a quick lesson on what not to play for a movie audience, and when in doubt, to pre-listen to anything before it goes into the CD player, and not to use any of the 'parental warning stickered' CDs (such as 'He Got Game' as non-sync... I am amazed nobody ever complained...
Aaron
Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 09-21-2000, 01:29 AM:
Does anyone else have the system that I do? One CD player located in the office that controls all the non-sync in the lobby and the theaters. It sounds like a lot of you have players for each auditorium.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-21-2000, 01:44 AM:
Jesse, you can hook up that quad player into the CP500 with a little creativity and a custom format. Dwayne, we used to change the end credit music ALL THE TIME at the college campus theater. The crowd loved it. The worse the blend, the bigger the applause and laughter was. That Debbie Gibson cd worked wonders for drama and action movies! (Fortunately the system was wired through a multi channel mixer board, so we could do a quick audio dissolve from those movies where the end audio blended straight into the end credit music.)
By the way, did anyone run their reissue Wizard of Oz print with the Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon disc after hours? A friend of mine did. I thought his theater could've done quite a bit of business running that as a weekend midnight show that way (provided the copyright could've been cleared). DTS should've made an alternate set of cds for special midnight movies like that.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-21-2000, 06:13 AM:
Brad--would you set up the non-sync quad format to be format "84" or "48" on the CP-500? 
Mike--we had the same thing at the multiplex where I worked; one CD player (and Movie Tunes--ugh!) for the entire place.
Personally, I recommend playing Sex Pistols albums before matinee shows of foreign films (the kinds of showtimes that catered to the little-old-lady set). I'm sure that the theatre would get plenty of compliments. Rap is also popular with these audiences.
The midnight-show crowd always seems to like Rachmaninoff's piano concertos.
When showing something that demands a quality presentation (say, "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind," "Lawrence of Arabia," etc.), I recommend Movie Tunes. It really helps to set the mood for the film. Oh, and when showing GWTW, be sure to show advertising slides during the intermission. Audiences need something to keep them from getting bored. (Oh, wait, why am I bothering to write this...plenty of theatres already seem to be taking these suggestions, unfortunately.)
Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 09-22-2000, 02:17 AM:
So am I the only sicko who takes home at least one of every Movie Tunes CD just to have something annoying around when I might need it? I wish I had one of those 200-CD changers, you could play Russian Roulette with it for money by loading 199 good CDs and one Movie Tunes disc and hitting random play.... Since I stopped working at the theater that uses them I've asked them to keep saving them for me. Someone told me he took a bunch of them for skeet shooting! I need to properly transfer some theater slides to video too for my 'home theater' presentations, but I'd prefer my "Mellow Moods for the 70's" 8-track playing over them.
The place I used to work at had seperate CD players for each screen, which for 1989 was still pretty extravagant. We would play CDs appropriate to the movie sometimes, like the "Dazed and Confused" soundtrack when we had that movie or Danny Elfman's "Music for a Darkened Theater" for any movie he had something to do with, but then the slides came in and later Movie Tunes, so they finally hooked up one player to all of them.
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 09-22-2000, 02:20 AM:
Scott! Scott!
Open a window!
Check the exhaust fan over your carbon arcs!
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 09-22-2000, 09:41 AM:
I used to have a tray full of On-Screen Entertainment "Movie Facts" slides. If you take out the advertisements and just show the trivia stuff, it's actually not that bad. I showed them before 16mm movies at home. Unfortunately, I loaned the tray to someone else a couple of years ago and haven't gotten it back yet...
I also have stuff like Dolby posters and the cool wall plaque. They're in a box right now...if I ever get a Dolby processor for my 35mm home theatre, I'll put them up.
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 12-14-2001, 05:13 PM:
I just had to bump this back up top since I spotted the line in another thread about "Ghetto Tuesday".Why not? On Tuesdays run nothing but rap music for non-sync. Get a mix tape and run it in continuous mode. Dirty South, East Coast, West Coast, gangsta, whatever. It'll even sound better if it's run through a Smart Mod II-C.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-16-2001, 03:11 PM:
You could run the complete collection of the "Songs of Stephen Foster"
on tuesdays
Posted by Ben Wales (Member # 92) on 12-16-2001, 05:04 PM:
The Old Odeon Cinema near where I live used to play the Shadows (but not allways the original) and one local cinema plays pipe organ music of a tape which drives some people mad!.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-16-2001, 05:05 PM:
Ben I can understand why a tape of organ would drive them crazy becuase in a cinema the organ music is supposed to be played live
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 04-05-2002, 07:05 PM:
Gordon: Try running Britney Spears non-stop in your non-sync one day. That'll "drive them crazy".
Posted by Paul Harnden (Member # 1034) on 04-05-2002, 08:40 PM:
An old buddy/co-projectionist would play Primus over the system during after hours when cleaning the machines or when building prints for screenings.
A couple nights ago I was out late with some managers deep-cleaning our conession stand and we stuck all kinds of CD's in the player. The ones I submitted were the South Park soundtrack , Orgazmo soundtrack, and Jay and Silent Bob soundtrack. It was of course after hours and the janitors didn't seem to mind.
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 04-07-2002, 01:02 AM:
Try playing "Every sperm is sacred" to an afternoon session of A Beautiful Mind" showing to old ladies