Then anywhere from a few months down the road to a few years down the road the thing breaks down and you must take it in for repair, happy that you paid for a 4 year extended coverage plan that covers everything. But there's only one problem. In order to receive warranty repair you absolutely MUST have the ORIGINAL receipt that came out of the register. Now normally this wouldn't be any big deal...BUT Best Buy uses thermal paper for their receipts and they fade into nothing after a few months! That's right, they will not honor an extended warranty if the ORIGINAL receipt has faded to a blank piece of paper or is even simply not readable. They will not accept a photocopy either!
A few people I know have been burned on this. I'm wondering how many other people are getting the treatment.
Me? Would I ever do something like that? 
Contact your state attorney's office. "Best Buy" has had some legal problems with their extended warantees and tread on thin ice in many states. As an "insurance" these warantees are regulated by state laws. Their policy of requiring the original sales slip is undoubtedly illegal. Local newspapers like to hear about things like this as well, if you catch my drift.
FWIW, I refuse to shop at CompUSA because of their rebate scams. I was burned twice on those.
I will say that a couple of times I have raised my voice in stores loud enough that every customer in the store was aware of my displeasure. All the years of training making announcements to the holding lines can serve a theatre person well. I can still raise my voice in a way that everyone within 200 feet will suddenly go silent and begin listening, and if a store p's me off enough, the employees and management quickly learn about that skill. Like with theatres, management and staff makes a big difference in customer satisfaction at electronics stores. Evans The extended warranty scam does not surprise me, but I doubt it's on purpose. I think I'd photocopy the receipt, then staple the original to the copy, then copy both of them together.
One thing about Best Buy that pisses me off is when you try to buy something that you can also purchase their stupid warranty for, like a camcorder, etc... Anyway, before they sell it to you they ask if you would be interested in the extended warranty. When you reply "No" they ask for a reason. They literally will not let you buy the product until you give them a satisfactory reason. They will keep asking and asking for a reason. So if this ever happens to you, simply tell them that the reason you aren't interested in the warranty is "Because pushy staff and policies that require them to obtain a reason from me are stupid, and I don't want to support stupidity." Or: "You're an ugly bastard! I don't feel comfortable giving ugly people any more money than I have to." Or if you are a religious zealot: "Because God told me so." Or maybe: "Because Elvis told me so." Or lastly: "I need to save that money for my hooker." Always works for me!
Yes, they are a way for the store to make extra $$ on the purchase. It's basically free money, just like any other insurance. On the other hand, even the best products need service. Blow a picture tube in a 35 inch Sony TV or get your computer struck by lightning and you'll be glad you did buy that warranty. The caveat is that the store that sells them (or the "insurance company" that handles the contract) must be reputable. I don't think Best Buy is the company to buy from. The answer is read the contract and decide if you want it. If it's "worth it" maybe you should buy it. But don't be afraid to say NO if you don't think it's worth it.
Stick to manufacturers that already offer a warranty. RCA Worthwhile products will be warranted by the folks that built them, not by some store selling a "contract" (provided by a third party). If the guy asks "Would you like to add extended coverage for only..." Just say no! Manufacturers want you to have a good experience with their products. The good ones tend to take care of you without the aid of outside "helpers". I mentioned the four companies that I have had personal experience with. I'm sure that there are others. Russ
Asheville School? I worked at SEARS for years. I sold alot of maintenance agreements, and most of the customers never took advantage of them. The ones that did got lots of free check-outs and free parts. I personally will not waste my money.
They recently bought out the great Magnolia Hi-Fi (local chain) and now it's going downhill fast. First, a JVC surround receiver, at the time, a $999 unit in 1988, got hit by lightning, knocking out its surround output and some of its functionality. It still worked, but I waited until a few months before the $40 4-year warranty I bought expired. The unit was repaired, with nearly $400 worth of parts, and worked flawlessly after the repair, which cost me nothing. So, I got what would have been a $400 repair job for the cost of the $40 warranty. The unit was repaired neatly and carefully. I couldn't tell that the unit had been taken apart when I got it back, and I used it for years afterwards. That was $40 well spent. Second, a Hewlett-Packard laser printer. I bought one in summer 1997 and after nearly a year, the printer stopped working. I took it back, expecting it to have to be shipped away for repair. Instead, I was given a NEW printer, new in the box, in exchange for the one that had stopped working. That means not only did I get a new printer, but I got a new toner cartridge with it. I have not yet had to buy a toner cartridge. I tend to buy extended warranties only if they're cheap enough and cover a significant time period. A 5-year warranty for $50 on an expensive surround receiver that costs near $1000 or more is well-worth it, but such warranties that cost much more are not. I wouldn't buy such a plan on a DVD player, CD player, or VCR these days, since the items can be replaced cheaply. On an expensive unit that I plan to use for many years, I'll consider one. Evans It has been 3116 days since the last post.
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 01-31-2001, 01:34 PM:
I've bought a bunch of stuff from Best Buy and have never noticed a receipt fading over time. It makes me want to check some my older ones when I get home this afternoon. Of course, at the Best Buy here in Huntsville, I've had no problems. I have several friends that work there and most of the employees (including the manager) recognize me since I go in there so often.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-31-2001, 01:53 PM:
I've not been burned by it yet, but I have friends who have. It's amazing how the receipts faded to an almost plain piece of paper. Personally, I always make a photocopy of any high dollar receipt...inparticularly if there is a warranty service package with it. I agree with Jerry though, you can get most anything accomplished if your voice travels well enough.
Posted by Ky Boyd (Member # 23) on 01-31-2001, 04:47 PM:
You mean that you can actually buy something at Best Buy??? I've never been able to...even the shortest line at my local Best Buy moves slower than a snail and I get fed-up and leave. After three such experiences, I refuse to go back. Seems like 50 employees in the store and only one that knows how to work the cash register. I'm surprised they aren't in bankruptcy.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-31-2001, 05:25 PM:
I've patronized the Best Buy in Billings, MT a time or two...their receipts are printed in "classic" blue receipt ink. Not thermal. It's a fairly new store (1 year).
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-31-2001, 06:33 PM:
I've never gotten bitten by this scam simply because I always refuse to buy extended warranties. If I am that much in doubt of the quality of whatever I am about to buy, then I don't buy it! I do more research. I have bought warranties in the past, but never made use of them.
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 01-31-2001, 07:51 PM:
I have sold extended warranties when I worked as a TV salesman. I have mixed feelings.
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 01-31-2001, 07:59 PM:
Maybe I am grumpy, but from what I have seen in the retail industry, (especially automobiles) the warrenty expires on the payment of the invoice.
Posted by Russ Kress (Member # 461) on 01-31-2001, 11:21 PM:
Store warranties are a joke.
Pioneer
JBL
Ford
Posted by Heyward Garner (Member # 722) on 02-01-2001, 12:23 AM:
Geez...
My computer is from Best Buy, and I did get the warrantyt on it. I have about a year left... But approx. 6 months after I bought the computer here in my hometown, I was away at boarding school, computer on hand. There was a power surge, and my monitor literally blew up. I was in school in Asheville, NC and at the time there was no Best Buy there. Nearest one was Greenville SC. I called Best Buy, told them what happened, and next day a guy drove up from Greenville with my new monitor. The reciept? Not in sight. My parents had it here in Winston-Salem. The guy took the blown monitor, gave me the new one said thanks and left. I was pleased by this. But this is just my experience with them...
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 02-01-2001, 08:47 AM:
A boarding school in Asheville....
Ben Lippen?
Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 02-01-2001, 08:56 AM:
I heard that Best Buy was being sued here in Washington state.
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 02-01-2001, 03:04 PM:
I have had two very positive experiences with these warranties.
Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 09-12-2003, 05:30 AM:
I almost never buy those insurance packages. Sheesh... they push them for EVERYTHING... Buy a $10 nic card... "wanna 2 year warranty on that?"
Basically, the odds have worked in my favor. I've been burned once by a DVD player that lost audio.
A couple of exceptions, though... I did buy the warranty on our home TV, and have used it for maintenance/cleaning visits. The tech once had to replace a switch & some dried out caps.
We also recently bought Sears' top-line front load washer & dryer... got the warranty on that.
Otherwise, I'll take my chances on most consumer goods. Much of it isn't designed to last 6 months anyway.
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 09-12-2003, 05:51 AM:
I always buy all my stuff with my credit cards and pay it off at the end of the month. They have a free, no-deductible and no questions asked, 2-year extended warrantee on all purchases. If something fails, they'll fix it or replace it for free.
It's the only way to fly. Those in-store things are a rip-off and the sales person makes a big commission for the sale. That's why the push it.
>>> Phil
Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 09-12-2003, 09:06 AM:
Go to www.planetfeedback.com and type in "Best Buy". They have tons of complaints lodged against them.
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 09-12-2003, 09:16 AM:
Not only do sales people get commission but they are REQUIRED to sell them!
If they fall below a certain percentage of warranties to sales they are written up. If after 3 months below par they do not imporove they can be canned!
I used to work in the business. The whole thing has ballooned from an "extra service" provided to customers to a "required sale". I would spend an inordinate amount of time tracking down repairs/replacements for customers because of problems in the repair system. Either it would take months to get the repaired item back from "the shop" or the company would stall on making good on the replacement. Some days I would spend more time chasing down problems that I couldn't make sales.
It was a real bitch to have to stand there and pitch a warranty to some little old lady who just broke open her piggy bank to buy a new TV. I was falling behind in my percentage and got called into the office. We ended up agreeing to a "divorce" because I didn't want to have to do it anymore.
In retrospect, I'm not sorry that I left.
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 09-12-2003, 10:34 AM:
I don't do business with Best Buy. Anything they sell that I need I can purchase somewhere else that has better customer service. Computers? Go to Gateway, Dell, or build your own. Software? I prefer my local Software Etc. or even Amazaon; same goes for music.
I will say this though, if Best Buy's warranty policy hasn't changed since this thread was first started (two years ago if you didn't notice the date) then the best thing to do if you absolutely HAVE to buy stuff from Best Buy is to purchase it at their website, www.bestbuy.com. Doing that will give you a reciept printed from your own computer-or at least a piece of paper that would come with the shipment that would most likely be of a higher qaulity than their store reciepts.
Posted by Ron Yost (Member # 1850) on 09-12-2003, 12:37 PM:
I recently tried to buy a new DVD player in BestBuy. I knew what I wanted, so I got the box myself, no salesperson needed. While walking around looking at other stuff, with the player box tucked under my arm, I was assailed FOUR times by four different people hawking that extended warranty. One of them was extremely persistent .. I almost told her to .. well, you know.
Then, I saw the checkout line! I took the player back where I found it and walked out. Ordered the player online and even saved about $10.
Extended warranties are a cash-cow for big merchants .. Sears figured that out years ago. As someone said, most of this cheesy consumer electronic stuff will only last a year or two anyhow.
Have you seen the do-it-yourself checkout at HomeDepot? I asked if their prices would go down a bit as they were saving on checkers' wages. A bewildered Huh?? look was the response. Of course, those kids aren't in charge of policy, so I should be more understanding, I suppose.
Ron Yost .. really despises modern big-box retailing.
Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 09-12-2003, 01:18 PM:
Seems that every time I give Best Buy another chance, I'm disappointed. Whether it's them not posting store hours on the doors (nothing else in this town closes at 6pm on Sunday), salespeople who don't know what the hell they are talking about, (I ask about DVD players with Component Inputs, and he tries to sell me a $60 "monster cable") Wrong prices on things, such as multiple copies of the same DVD having different prices, which differ still from that on the shelf, which differs still from what scans at the register. It's just frustrating in general to shop there.
In regards to extended warranties, when I purchased my LCD projector from Sound Advice some years ago, I couldn't ask a question without the idiot bringing up the extended warranty again and again. It was $550 for 3 years, which included bulb replacement. He kept saying how the bulbs only last a year and they're $250 so you save money, blah blah. He just didn't get it that I was 16 years old and that I barely came up with the money for the projector itself. Like I was just going to
$550 into his hands!!
What's more, when I saved up enough and came back to buy the screen, he STILL tried to get me to add-on the warranty for the projector!!
Outcome: I've had the thing for 5 years now and still haven't replaced the bulb, or anything else with it.
=TMP=
Posted by Robert E. Allen (Member # 1351) on 09-12-2003, 08:23 PM:
Years ago (before some of you guys were born) I was an assistant manager in the West Seattle K-Mart and I know we took back merchandise we did not sell just to gain a customer. I wonder if the Best-Buy thing varies from store-to-store.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 09-13-2003, 03:14 AM:
I miss the old days of good customer service! I don't think Best Buy really varies much by store... it is their corporate policy to push the PSP's (Performance Service Plan). They have district wide competitions between stores who can sell the most PSP's. If "Store A" wins, then every employee gets a Twinkie. They also have in-store competitions between employees regarding these sales. Loser has to clean the bathrooms and breakroom at the end of the day. Winner gets a Twinkie. Also, places like Best Buy would honestly rather lose the sale than sell you an item without also selling the PSP.
I guess the lesson to learn is to purchase online when you can from a reputable online dealer. That way you can avoid the hassle.
Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 09-13-2003, 08:37 AM:
Jack,
To temporarily change the subject, how pleased are you with the front loaders? The claim to use much less water and be more energy efficient. We're considering getting a new W/D after the 1st of the year and are looking at both the Kenmore and Neptune units.
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 09-13-2003, 05:52 PM:
During my tenure at Sears, I was bitched out regularly because I was not pushing maintenance agreements. I felt that they were and are a rip-off. Back in 1991-96, I only pushed the M-A's for Magnavox / Philco / Sylvania projection TV's. For awhile, until Phillips (the manufacturer) got their shit together, an M-A was invaluable for customers especially when the tube coolant had to be changed--often!
I had a customer at Sears that had a M-A on her 1970 era Silvertone / Warwick color TV. She had renewed it yearly. We finally found something that was no longer available from the parts center on her set, and the company replaced it with a Zenith. She paid around $40 a year for the contract. Set lasted 24 or so years. It is still running. She gave it to me. Sears didn't want it. I installed some used parts (a focus divider) and it continues to run in my parents house.
Posted by Jon Bartow (Member # 241) on 09-13-2003, 08:52 PM:
I once purchased a laptop from Circuit City, and purchased their "we'll fix it or repair it at no charge no matter what happens to it for four years" "warranty" policy. a year later the LCD display cracked. Took it back to the store with ALL original packaging and recipts. They refused to honor the waranty saying that screens were not covered, even after reading the policy to the manager that says that screens are NOT excluded. It took three months of calling managers, upper management and eventually the CEO of GE the parent company of Circuit City's insurer. What finnally did it was a recording that I had my brother do of a manager at the same circuit city telling a customer "sure [the waranty] covers screens, we had a lady who told us she dropped the laptop that got a free replacement." Fortunatly the manager said his entire name out loud too. After sending that tape to the upper management they allowed me to pick out any laptop currently in-stock at that store.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-13-2003, 10:31 PM:
I got a cheezy looking 25" Zenith console TV back in the late '70s when I moved into a house with 3 other guys. We held all kinds of parties and get-togethers around that set.
Over the years I moved into 3 different other houses, and finally when I got married we moved into our current house, and the 25" Zenith has followed me along the way and it has never had one bit of repair or maintenance except for changing the batteries in the remote.
Extended Warranties are nothing but a huge profit center. Whenever I'm offered one, I say "Oh, so you're saying this thing won't last over a year? I better buy something else, I guess." Shuts them up fast.
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 09-14-2003, 08:10 AM:
Hey Mike!
Your old Zenith was built better than what they have now. Yours was probably a System 3. They were workhorses! I know of several that have never had any service, too!
Goldstar owns the Zenith name now. When they need repair (often) you just pull the board and replace it with another. Easy, but I have to do it more than I like.
Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 01-08-2004, 01:18 PM:
If you wanna read some Best Buy horror stories, check out www.bestbuysux.com
They have horror stories from 1999 in there
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 01-08-2004, 02:21 PM:
That domain is now owned by Best Buy and does not resolve to anything.
Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 01-08-2004, 02:53 PM:
sorry bout that, It's www.bestbuysux.org
That is the correct address
Posted by Bruce Hansen (Member # 281) on 01-08-2004, 08:02 PM:
I am sure everyone here has noticed how these extended warranties are "hard" sold. The reason for that is simple, the company makes money on them. Now, if the company is making money on them, that means that YOU are loseing money. I never buy an extended warranty, but I do most of my own service work.
A few months ago, I wanted to see what I paid for a piece of equipment I bought a few years ago. I looked at my receipt file for that year, and was stuned to find that quite a few of the thermal receipts in the file had faded to blank sheets of paper.
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 01-08-2004, 08:28 PM:
Some products it is recommended to get the extended warranty, such as RPTV's and projectors.
Just make sure it's a MANUFACTURER's warranty and not one that is offered by the retailer.
Posted by Dominic Espinosa (Member # 2122) on 01-08-2004, 09:18 PM:
As an independent technician for a privately owned computer consulting firm and a Best Buy sales person I have to say manufacturer waranties are lame since most of them require you to ship it or take it to a specific center for repair.
I agree the company just makes money on it, and for good cause, they make nothing on computer sales. It's service and accessories they make money on.
Which is why they're one of the most obsessive and agressive sales forces I've worked with. It's disturbing how robotic and strange they are. I usualy feel intimidated and afraid of doing my job for fear of losing it because of some dumbass rule they've put into place.
In most cases a service plan can get coverage if you've got some proof of purchase that you can show to a manager.
But you will have to climb up the food chain to the GM most likely. They're a very hungry company so it takes a lot to get what you want out of them.
Good luck!
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 01-08-2004, 10:20 PM:
Most manfacturers' RPTV techs come to your house to do warranty work.
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 01-09-2004, 12:08 PM:
Back when I bought a RPTV from Circuit City, I was very specific about making the salesperson highlight on the contract for me the fact that a service person would come to my house to work on it before I would buy the contract.
A couple of months ago, I had the opportunity to see a couple of Best Buy corporate videos about selling extended warranties and selling gift cards. I will never set foot in a Best Buy ever again. If I absolutely must have something and have to get it from them, I'll order it online.
Posted by System Notices (Member # 2357) on 07-22-2012, 09:10 AM:
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-22-2012, 09:10 AM:
6 years later -- any new thoughts on this?
I just bought a new washer/dryer with a lot of advanced features -- probably computer parts in there somewhere.
5 years for $500
I have 30 days to decide if I want the plan or not.
Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 07-22-2012, 12:50 PM:
Manny, what brand? Look in Consumer Reports and see how that brand stacks up on repair rate. If they are on the low side, I would save the $500. That's a lot of green and probably your first repair if indeed you ever needed it, could cost about that, or even less.
Consumer Reports in general goes negative on warrantees. They usually advice against them.
Posted by Jason Raftery (Member # 6291) on 07-22-2012, 02:17 PM:
Extended warranties typically don't work in your favor at list prices. $500 for a washer/dryer contract sounds pretty steep.
Consider a warranty from a third-party like SquareTrade--five years of coverage for a washer/dryer runs ~ $300 or less. Do your due diligence though and run from outfits like American Home Shield. If you put the purchase on a credit card, some issuers offer free extended warranty coverage automatically for an additional year beyond the warranty from the manufacturer; some will also sell you a longer extended warranty if desired. Read the fine print--all policies are not created equal. Look up the cost for major replacement parts at RepairClinic--a single circuit board may exceed the cost of the entire service contract.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 07-22-2012, 02:40 PM:
The extended warranty on my Whirlpool Duet front load washer has paid for itself. I've had a couple different service calls on it. One to replace a water inlet valve that cracked and another recent call to replace a faulty water level sensor. Both parts cost over $150 even though they look like it didn't take more than a couple of bucks worth of materials to make them. Add the labor to it and each call would have cost in the $250-$300 price range.
IMHO, new washing machines just aren't being made very well.
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-22-2012, 03:06 PM:
Whirlpool Cabrio Top-Load washer and the matching dryer with steam.
Thanks for the tips -- I'll study up on this -- but you've all pointed me in a time-saving direction.
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 07-22-2012, 03:09 PM:
No "white goods" (fridges, washers, dryers, etc) are built to last anymore. You will be lucky to get 6-8 years out of stuff you buy today.
The Duet washing machines are plagued with problems, as are the Neptune machines, and the Cabrio. I've never thought that electric circuit boards should be used around things that get wet!
Even the venerable direct drive Whirlpool washers are failing more. Seems they've made the internal clutches even thinner than they used to be... causing them to slip and fail.
I'm running a Whirlpool washer that was built in 1970. I've replaced the water inlet valve, the drain pump, and the drive belt. It's used almost every day.
Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 07-22-2012, 04:28 PM:
That reminds me of my old GE washer...it was one of those $499 specials. It ran well till my roommate spilled liquid detergent down the back panel and damaged the start relay...it had to be watched every time it had to start to make sure it worked. He didn't watch one day and burned up the motor. I replaced the motor and relay with a $65 set from Graingers, I used it for three more years...then sold it to my brother-in-law who used it at his hair salon to wash towels. It did seven(!) very full loads of towels every day for over ten years before the tub finally started leaking, literally rusted through. It was still mechanically sound though. Every washer (and dryer) he has bought since has lasted no more than three years.
NOTHING is made to last anymore, we are a disposable society.
As for Worst Buy, they no longer appear on the Planetfeedback site...hmmmmmmm......and the BestBuysux site has been taken over by Best Buy, no negative info there either.
I had my own shouting match at the local Best Buy over a defective Denon receiver that was dead out of the box...they initially refused to exchange it even though it was brand new, picked up at the same store and returned with the manuals and accessories still in the SEALED bag. Why? Because I had bought it online (which BTW was at the EXACT same price as in-store) they wanted to have me buy another one and they would credit back my card. After several minutes of yelling they finally exchanged it. Asswhipes.
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-22-2012, 07:12 PM:
So why buy separates? Don't they have combo washer/dryer machines now where you dump your clothes in and they come out clean AND dry? (I've no experience with this, but it sounds lovely.)
Posted by Doug Thompson (Member # 6546) on 07-22-2012, 08:08 PM:
Brad,
That's like June Lockhart's "auto-matic laundry" in "Lost In Space" - - dirty clothes go in, and clean, dry, ironed AND folded clothes come out!
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-22-2012, 09:40 PM:
They exist. (Except for the ironing and folding.) Here is one such example.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-22-2012, 10:28 PM:
If you want quality you need a Kino...er Miele Washer and Dryer (or damn near anything else they make).
http://www.mieleusa.com/
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-22-2012, 11:39 PM:
Combos Steve, COMBOS!
Having one machine to throw your dirty laundry in to have it wash and then dry all on its own is about as wonderful as threading that movie and then walking away because the platter gets every single changeover perfect!
Posted by Barry Floyd (Member # 385) on 07-23-2012, 12:25 AM:
I've been able to repair both of our Whirlpool washer and dryer by getting parts from Part Select . I've replaced the heating elements in the dryer, and the agitator cam assembly in the washer. On their website they even have videos showing you how to repair / replace the parts.
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-23-2012, 10:13 AM:
I have no opinions on their washers or dryers, but I can say good things about Miele canister-style vacuum cleaners. I "inherited" one about ten years ago and it has always worked flawlessly. It is now about twenty-five years old and I have only ever had it serviced once (preventive maintenance, lubrication, etc.). The bags are expensive, though. At least it seems to be well built, unlike some of the other "boutique" brands, which are no better than the cheap ones.
I have also had good luck with Hoover uprights from the 1970s. There is still one on my family from that era and, aside from occasional belt replacements (and maybe one new motor), it has always worked well.
As for washers and dryers, the laundromat that I use has Maytag front-loading washing machines and Huebsch (?) dryers. They have been in use for at least the last decade and possibly much longer. The Maytags have an annoying flaw that causes them to occasionaly stop in the first few minutes of a cycle and need to be reset. Otherwise, I have had no problems with them. I would be reluctant to get a front-loading machine for home use, though, due to the possibility of door or seal failure.
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 07-23-2012, 05:23 PM:
Ah but Miele is "Always Better" (Immer Besser)
Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 07-23-2012, 11:13 PM:
For $1500. it ought to give a B.J. too. My next door neighbor is a tech for washers & dryers---says Miele is crap, all plastic gears, no bearings, just plastic bushings,
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 07-24-2012, 10:38 PM:
For the longest time I did laundry with a washer and dryer in the apartment. When my lady lived with me, it was easier as she helped, but it was always a terrible chore which I really hated. When I lived alone it even got worse because now I had to fold, which I just couldn't bring myself to do and so the cleaned, fluffy dried cloths would be dumped on one half of the bed. And there it would stay as I simply pulled what I needed out of the huge pile by day, and shared my bed with the pile at nite. Now I am sharing my bed again and she needs that side of the bed so what to do?
Well I found the BEST washer-dryer FOLDING machine ever invented --it's this number you call, a guy comes to the door, takes the sack of dirties, and two days later, sometimes only one and a half days, and here he comes on his bike with your washed, fluffed dried AND FOLDED cloths....I said FOLDED! boys and girls!!
How in all these years on the planet I only discovered this modern invention this late -- the local laundry, all those nights having to nuggle up to a pile of tee shirts and socks -- I will never no.
FORGET finding the best washer and dryers, find a good laundromate that has drop off / pickup service, or better yet, pick up and delivey service to your door because it beats any washing/driving machine from ANY manufacturer. It's worth its weight in GOLD, I tell you.
As for vacuum (does that REALLY need two Us?) cleaners -- I know it's late in life, but I am thinking Cleaning Lady.
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 07-25-2012, 09:03 AM:
I'm thinking houseboy -- same idea (kinda).
I kid!
(kinda)
Laundry service here in Bloomington is way too expensive and almost all of the companies get bad ratings. I used to get my shirts dry-cleaned when I lived in Long Beach for about $1 each. It's nearly $5 each here.
"Fluff & Fold" (hehe) is similarly overpriced and -- again -- there are those bad ratings.
How else would you spell "vacuum" ? You wanna spell it with a "y" or something?
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 07-25-2012, 10:33 AM:
I have bought extended warranties and other than cars have never used them. So I stopped buying them now waiting for recent purchases to need them.
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 07-25-2012, 08:55 PM:
A houseboy whose job it would be to fluff? And you think getting your shirts dry-cleaned is expensive? heh heh
I would spell it like volume -- vacume. What's with the redundant and totally unnecessary (or should I say totaly unecesary?) extra U? It's damn silly...I mean, dam sily. O wait, this is sno baling.
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 07-25-2012, 09:05 PM:
quote:So, it seems that the word is supposed to be pronounced "VAC-you-um" instead of "VAC-yume."
vac•u•um |ˈvakˌyoō(ə)m; -yəm|
noun ( pl. -u•ums or -u•a |-yoōə|)
1) a space entirely devoid of matter.
• a space or container from which the air has been completely or partly removed.
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2 ( pl. -u•ums) a vacuum cleaner.
verb [ trans. ]
clean with a vacuum cleaner : the room needs to be vacuumed.
PHRASES
in a vacuum (of an activity or a problem to be considered) isolated from the context normal to it and in which it can best be understood or assessed.
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: modern Latin, neuter of Latin vacuus ‘empty.’
quote: "dictionary.com"Also...
vak-yoom, -yoo-uhm, -yuhm
quote: Manny Knowlesindeed....and a lot more entertaining!
I know what a strumpet is...but that's very different.