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Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-01-2001, 09:27 AM:

Who has been so disgusted with a film that they have either modified the film itself or decided to edit a video tape of the film for their own personal viewing?

I remember one forgettable drive-in film in the 70's where I cut out an entire reel to shorten the thing and make the plot more comprehensable. Such shenannigans were common on dusk to dawn shows. I've heard of some films that were turned into two reelers.

I've got a number of video tapes that I've considered either re-editing or doing a MST2K schtick with (MST3K being one on the list.)

None of these could be shown publicly of course, but when Lucas can go back and hack Star Wars years later, I figure any film is fair game. Other edits might be to restore a film to make it closer to the original intent. The sappy ending to the original "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" ruins the film. I remember, as a kid, seeing it late one night on tv, where the station's editor had cut out that ending and left the Body Snatcher's winning. I nearly soiled myself because the film was so powerful.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-01-2001, 09:45 AM:

Editing a film on home video for personal use is fine, and can be lots of fun.

Changing a film that is in release is a big "NO-NO", no matter how much we feel we know how to make it "better".

Of course I NEVER tried to shorten my late nights at the drive-in by changing-over mid-reel when only a couple cars with no heads showing were still in the lot, and everyone else had gone home.

"Wake up little Susie, wake up!"

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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 02-02-2001, 12:42 AM:

Nooooo John...

I would never dream you would have!

PS: Where's that Oscar picture gone? Did you get done by the AMPAS?

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-02-2001, 06:27 AM:

As the copyright owner, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences sends winners a pamplet of regulations regarding the use of its trademarks and service marks. I ask that others also adhere to the spirit and letter of those rules.

Posted by Michael Pace (Member # 553) on 02-02-2001, 07:06 AM:

Back in the early Eighties I remember running a rock concert movie, the name of which entirely escapes me now. From memory spools 3 and 4 had very little use as most projectionists simply left them in the trunks and never screened them. Nobody ever complained about the 'shortened version' as far as I know as it was still 5 spools long.

Regards to all,

Michael.

Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-02-2001, 08:28 AM:

"As the copyright owner, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences sends winners a pamplet of regulations regarding the use of its trademarks and service marks. I ask that others also adhere to the spirit and letter of those rules."

In keeping in the full spirit of those rules, I never mention the word referring to somebody's uncle, which was appropriated by A.M.P.A.S. (tm)(c)(r) Whata bunch of stuft shirts.

John, you are who you are with or without awards, and your professionalism in bending to their rules says a lot more good about you than it does for them.

I nominate John for a special film-tech award. A statuette of one of the wide-screen museum usherettes in a golden tan would be a nice touch if Marty Hart would go along. It would spruce up that picture in the left hand column! (Not that you're a bad looking guy, John, but yaknowwhaddImean?)

All in favor?

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 02-02-2001, 10:31 AM:

Jerry said: "I nominate John for a special film-tech award. A statuette of one of the wide-screen museum usherettes in a golden tan would be a nice touch if Marty Hart would go along. It would spruce up that picture in the left hand column! (Not that you're a bad looking guy, John, but yaknowwhaddImean?)"

As long as my wife doesn't get the wrong idea, and think I spend my time at work with Marty's usherettes :
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/