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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 03-23-2001, 05:19 PM:

Here's my take on how Sunday night will go...

BEST PICTURE

Chocolat
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

ACTOR - LEADING

Javier Bardem - Before Night Falls
Russell Crowe - Gladiator
Tom Hanks - Cast Away
Ed Harris - Pollock
Geoffrey Rush - Quills

ACTOR -- SUPPORTING

Jeff Bridges - The Contender
Willem Dafoe - Shadow of the Vampire
Benicio Del Toro - Traffic
Albert Finney - Erin Brockovich
Joaquin Phoenix - Gladiator

ACTRESS - LEADING

Joan Allen - The Contender
Juliette Binoche - Chocolat
Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream
Laura Linney - You Can Count on Me
Julia Roberts - Erin Brockovich

ACTRESS - SUPPORTING

Judi Dench - Chocolat
Marcia Gay Harden - Pollock
Kate Hudson - Almost Famous
Frances McDormand - Almost Famous
Julie Walters - Billy Elliot

DIRECTING

Billy Elliot
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

What do you think?

click here for a picture of this year's nominees

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"It's not the years, honey...it's the mileage". Indiana Jones

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-23-2001, 05:28 PM:

I am finding it hard to care about the Oscars this year. I'll probably watch 'em, but if something more exciting comes up (like scooping the cat box) I will probably do that instead. 2000 was a bad year for movies. Hopefully 2001 will turn out to be better.

Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 03-23-2001, 05:41 PM:

I vote for the cat box. Now that JP got his award, the rest is downhill.

Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 03-23-2001, 06:17 PM:

BEST PICTURE

Chocolat
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

ACTOR - LEADING

Javier Bardem - Before Night Falls
Russell Crowe - Gladiator
Tom Hanks - Cast Away
Ed Harris - Pollock
Geoffrey Rush - Quills

ACTOR -- SUPPORTING

Jeff Bridges - The Contender
Willem Dafoe - Shadow of the Vampire
Benicio Del Toro - Traffic
Albert Finney - Erin Brockovich
Joaquin Phoenix - Gladiator

ACTRESS - LEADING

Joan Allen - The Contender
Juliette Binoche - Chocolat
Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream
Laura Linney - You Can Count on Me
Julia Roberts - Erin Brockovich

ACTRESS - SUPPORTING

Judi Dench - Chocolat
Marcia Gay Harden - Pollock
Kate Hudson - Almost Famous
Frances McDormand - Almost Famous
Julie Walters - Billy Elliot

DIRECTING

Billy Elliot
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-23-2001, 06:37 PM:

The ones in bold are the ones that will absolutely NOT win:

BEST PICTURE

Chocolat
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

ACTOR - LEADING

Javier Bardem - Before Night Falls
Russell Crowe - Gladiator
Tom Hanks - Cast Away
Ed Harris - Pollock
Geoffrey Rush - Quills

ACTOR -- SUPPORTING

Jeff Bridges - The Contender
Willem Dafoe - Shadow of the Vampire
Benicio Del Toro - Traffic
Albert Finney - Erin Brockovich
Joaquin Phoenix - Gladiator

ACTRESS - LEADING

Joan Allen - The Contender
Juliette Binoche - Chocolat
Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream
Laura Linney - You Can Count on Me
Julia Roberts - Erin Brockovich

ACTRESS - SUPPORTING

Judi Dench - Chocolat
Marcia Gay Harden - Pollock
Kate Hudson - Almost Famous
Frances McDormand - Almost Famous
Julie Walters - Billy Elliot

DIRECTING

Billy Elliot
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee
Erin Brockovich
Gladiator
Traffic

How do I know this? Simple! These are the only films on the list that I saw and the Academy never likes what I watch.

Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 03-25-2001, 10:58 PM:

Here's tonight's winners list:
http://www.oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/winners.html

And this year's scientific & technical winners:
http://www3.oscars.org/scitech/73/index.html

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 03-26-2001, 08:32 AM:

What a great night! Steve Martin was brilliant (and Tom Hanks does great ad-libs)!

I get so tired of the sweeps at the Oscars. It was so much fun to see the awards spread around this time... and the winners were all so classy. AND the show was so much shorter than it's been recently. How many tiresome movie tribute montages did they have last year? This year, only the obligatory tribute to the dearly departed OR clips to honor people who were actually up for awards.

Finally, the broadcast is heading in the right direction. I hope Steve Martin hosts again.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-26-2001, 10:57 AM:

I agree. Steve Martin was great. In fact I think I enjoyed him more as host more than any other person who has hosted so far. The show was shorter like it should be. They made a bad year for movies actually very fun to watch!

Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 03-26-2001, 11:24 AM:

I'll agree with your last sentence Joe, but I'm still kinda partial to Billy Crystal. Anyway, Not a bad show in terms of getting it in and getting it done. Thank God they forever tabled those dumb-ass expressionist dance numbers from a few years back. I was almost certain Julia Roberts was going to spout some anti-Bush stuff in here speech, but she didn't. And even though Russell Crowe is a HUDGE HORSE'S ASS, he still gave an excellent acceptance speech (sorry to our Australian friends, but he is what he is).

I am very skeptical of elite Hollywood types on both sides of the camera and in the studio apparatice too. I laugh at their shallow lives as they often speak of creativity, art, message, and meaning. I think a few of them know little of what those are. Their causes superceed in their lives and they live simply for the moment. They scream and yell about the poor, the victims, the downtrodden, yet they live lives of opulent riches. They are truly the nobility of America, and yet many I would not even walk across the street for. They are a strange group that I don't think I'll ever understand.

Posted by Mark Lucas (Member # 791) on 03-26-2001, 12:42 PM:

Who would be an elite Hollywood type?

Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 03-26-2001, 12:56 PM:

I will post my guesses for who will win an Oscar last night when I get home, tonight. OK?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 03-26-2001, 01:38 PM:

I think they should have Steve Martin host every year, but bring Billy Crystal on for a guest spot so he can sing his usual tribute tune, which is always hilarious.

As long as they don't have Whoopi Goldberg on again ever!

Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 03-26-2001, 03:42 PM:

Mark,
The elite Hollywood types are hard to explain, but they usually follow some similar guidelines.

In the Studios the Weinstein brothers are probably about the most famous in our time. Bob and Harvey call many of the shots but I believe they are just plain idiots. You know I don't want to get on a soapbox here but the Weinsteins have produced more morally offensive films than what is nessessary. Frankly, both of them are morally offensive. The Farrelly brothers in direction direct funny, but tastless films. Last night at the Oscars, did Jennifer Lopez have to show up with erect nipples showing through here gown. Bjork. Hey, nice swan! Did anybody ever teach her about glamour. And the damndest thing is these people think it's cute, funny, liberating, open-minded; you name it they have a word for it. And it is more than those I've just mentioned. Hey Danny Devido: Your inside, take off your sun glasses! Why do these people always feel they must make a statement?

What ever happened to the Hollywood of the 1930's and 40's? Wouldn't it be nice to have many more honest, hard working actors and actresses who enjoy they craft such as Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson. No, we have drug sniffing criminals (Morton Downey Jr.), left-wing radicals (Jullia Roberts), right-wing radicals (Charalton Heston), religious zelots (Richard Gear), etc. etc. If actors and actresses would spend more time reviewing good roles instead of marching in the PETA parade (yeah, you know who you are Alicia Silverstone), we would get better product, maybe.

What I'm so sick of is how these people take roles that just plain suck simply because they see a "connection" between the character and the actor's real life "causes". Rosie O'Donell, Susan Sarandon, Nichole Kidman. I don't want to belabor this anylonger. These are just my personal thoughts about Hollywood.

Posted by Dwayne Caldwell (Member # 417) on 03-26-2001, 10:24 PM:

I thought Russell Crowe was a New Zealander. Is there a difference between them and you Aussies, John?

I'd personally like to see Jay Leno host an Oscar show just for kicks. After all Letterman got a shot. Or maybe Martin Short can host now that Chevy Chase and Steve Martin have done so. Or to be really cruel to the public, they could have Adam Sandler host one year doing his Little Nicky impression all throughout the ceremony.

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The man with the magic hands.

Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 03-26-2001, 10:34 PM:

AMEN, Aaron M!!!!!!!!!

-AS

Posted by Michael Barry (Member # 237) on 03-26-2001, 10:36 PM:

During Steve Martin's opening (which I thought was hilarious) I couldn't understand why Russell Crowe wasn't even smiling. Doesn't he have a sense of humour? Everyone else who was shown in close-up was in stitches. What gives?

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-27-2001, 01:16 AM:

Russel Crowe is just a stoic, boring guy. I bet he's a hoot and a hollar to hang around with!

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 03-27-2001, 02:39 AM:

Dwayne, believe me there IS a difference. Folks (even some media here) like to 'adopt' successful Kiwis (New Zealanders) when it suits them...remember that great success 'The Piano' from a few years back? That was another example of adoption.

I even heard one radio announcer describe Russell as a 'Kiwi Aussie'

...anyway, at least Tom Hanks didn't win for that slop called 'Cast Away' so I am therefore able to watch the awards in years to come.

Congratulations to all the nominees...now go out and make some good movies.

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"It's not the years, honey...it's the mileage". Indiana Jones

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-27-2001, 04:53 AM:

I'd like to see Seinfeld host the awards one year. He could get all of the old cast together to present the different awards and the Soup Nazi could step in anytime the show is dragging with useless time-wasting segments like songs and choreography. Better yet, Julia-Louise Dreyfus could dance to the music.

I still just don't get the bs 45 second speech time limit, the performances of the songs, the need to show clips of the best picture, and most importantly...where's the technical achievement award clips? Damnit, I wanted to see John Pytlak accept his well deserved award on worldwide television!

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 03-27-2001, 06:52 AM:

My daughters and I were sitting at the table just to the left of the stage at the March 3 Academy Sci-Tech Awards ceremony at the Regent Beverly Wilshire hotel. Renee Zellweger hosted the ceremony.

Irwin Young of DuArt Labs in NYC (clip shown on TV) well deserved the Gordon E. Sawyer award for his lifelong service to the film industry. He has nurtured many young filmmakers and developed lab techniques that help independent filmmakers.

(P.S. - Brad, did you get the photos I sent you to post?)

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 03-27-2001, 07:54 AM:

Agreed with the comments on the problems of the Sci-Tech awards not getting enough coverage. I hate awards shows and avoid watching them as much as possible, but I would have been interested to have seen the presentations John P., Irwin Young, etc.

I do find the Oscars (tm) (r) to be sort of depressing in a way, since I almost invariably disagree completely with the Academy, and good films are often overlooked in favor of popular films. Requiem for a Dream should have won Best Picture this year, no contest. The Best Documentary Feature category bothers me, too: was "American Movie" even nominated for its year? "Troublesome Creek" should have won easily when it was nominated. And so on...

Grr.

Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 03-27-2001, 09:22 AM:

I have not seen Traffic but I intend to. I saw Erin Brockovich (didn't Cher star in this fim a few years back?) Big deal. "Movie of the year"? Ha!
Crotching Tiger.... Decent attempt but didn't go far enough in any direction except cinematography to make it worthy of an Oscar.
Really there wasn't much competition this year. I think the Oscars went where they were supposed to except Rdiley Scott certainly should have gotten Director. Also Crotching Tiger should have gotten two oscars and thats all.

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Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut