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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-21-2001, 11:05 AM:
 
Instead of just the standard assortment of smiley faces that come with UBB forums, we have added Film-Tech exclusive emoticons! The new icons are:

Evil smiley.

for Digital Cinema

Scream icon

to indicate a load of crap

Ian Price (also can be used to indicate a load of crap)

The finger!

See the smilies legend to see how to incorporate these into very single one of your posts! Or just click the EDIT button on my post right here to see how I did it!


 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-21-2001, 01:36 PM:
 
Hey! What about the BEER CHUG? We need to hack this one in too!


 


Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 04-21-2001, 03:17 PM:
 
Joe I love your new Icons they are great. Now that I know you are not Brad. Could you be ? Has everything that went on before been . If I ever saw a picture of you but instead of eyes you had 2 where the eyes belong...that would be cool. Isn't this a


 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-21-2001, 04:36 PM:
 
Randy, your wish has been granted.
 
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 04-21-2001, 04:43 PM:
 
Thanks!

Us older "Techies" have to print out a list of the smilies legend.

I'm thankful that you didn't add one to enhance my drinking problem!

Ian: you should be honored. Where else are you going to be a standard icon? !!

I'm going to go and inhale a Pauley Girl light beer!
 


Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 04-21-2001, 05:57 PM:
 
It had to be said: Why have two separate icons for "digital cinema" and "load of crap"? Isn't that redundant?
 
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-21-2001, 06:45 PM:
 
This is cool! Thanks, Brad!

Now all I have to do is hack all these new icons into UBB Writer. (Now where did I leave that pesky ResEdit?)


 


Posted by Ian Price (Member # 14) on 04-21-2001, 07:14 PM:
 

Joe :
 


Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 04-21-2001, 08:10 PM:
 
you are one of the good guy's. I am proud to call you friend.
 
Posted by William T. Parr (Member # 677) on 04-22-2001, 12:22 PM:
 
Hey Joe, Good work on creativity here. I love the Icon of the finger. Guess now we need to hack the UBB code to insert it immediately after seeing the word's TECHNICOLOR, or TES in a sentence, since we all in the world of Film-Tech seem to shared the same hatred for them, might as well make it easier for the poster to show how much they really care about Technicolor. Right?


 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-22-2001, 01:47 PM:
 
I think that should be Techni er. (ie: Techni-crapper)

UBB does have an anti-swearing parser that has a list of forbidden words. When somebody types a bad word it substitutes "S***", for example. You could turn on the anti-swear feature and take out all the words from the "kill list" except Techni er and TES and a few other choice words that creative minds who lurk here will undoubtedly think up. The hard part would be to substitute the hacked code to make the words appear as icons.

Another idea that would probably be easier is to make an icon for Techni er.
 


Posted by Russ Kress (Member # 461) on 04-23-2001, 01:16 AM:
 

Just testing if it works...
 


Posted by Russ Kress (Member # 461) on 04-23-2001, 01:18 AM:
 
IT DOES!!!!

I made a little "Ian head!!!!

I promise to never abuse this power!

Russ
 


Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 04-23-2001, 01:31 AM:
 
He still looks like the guy who has come in to look at the books.


 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-23-2001, 01:46 AM:
 
Can the be used as a suffix to other words?

For example:

Freud Slip? (Freudian)
Dickens Setting? (Dickensian)

Just wondering...
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-23-2001, 09:50 AM:
 
Falop Tube
 
Posted by Ethan Harper (Member # 472) on 04-23-2001, 07:25 PM:
 
How about.

Lesb

vas defer s???

"We are Ind s..."-Cannibal The Musical.
 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-23-2001, 07:48 PM:
 
The aud ce is listening. Small audience, but Brad doesn't like lots of images.

 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-24-2001, 03:42 AM:
 
Announcing a NEW Price icon! The old one is still available, but this new one can also be used for an even more enjoyable forum experience!

Judging from this new and more recent picture of our friend , I wonder is he Ital ? Is he Canad ? Is he As ? Is he Russ ? Could he be Indones ? Maybe he is Egypt ?


 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-24-2001, 03:49 AM:
 

strikes me as a wanna be technic who should never consider himself a qualified electric , for just because 's pet dalmat likes to peek through 's venet blinds (because does not like curta s) when he sees...
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-24-2001, 03:50 AM:
 
's brill t friend the librar come to visit 's g t, yet compl t Christ home, this does not in any way make a good music .

Know what I mean? I'll bet Evans does.

 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-24-2001, 12:53 PM:
 
quote:
Know what I mean? I'll bet Evans does.

Huh? I see that you're "compressing" text by replacing all occurrences of "ian" with the icon, but it isn't really helping since the icon takes up more space than the three letters. It will also wreak havoc on any attempt to do word analyses if this method gets to be popular.

All this about librarians and giant but compliant Christian homes not making one a good musician? I don't get it, unless you simply grepped a dictionary for a bunch of words having "ian" in them and used them, much in the way that your teachers had you write stories using your weekly spelling words, which made for weird stories.

That new picture of yours is cute, Joe. Was it taken 10 years ago? (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)

Unfortunately, there are no words (other than "joey") that contain "joe", so I can't write a little story using the new "Joe" icon I created.



 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-24-2001, 01:43 PM:
 
Sit down with a cup of and I'll bet you can.

Who is Ryan S. Cantor?


 


Posted by Mark DeLettera (Member # 125) on 04-24-2001, 02:15 PM:
 
Brad,
As long as you are adding icons and pics, how hard who it be to add a 'Spell Check'?

I think it would be very useful fro meny!
(Whoops....I mean...."for many")

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Mark DeLettera
Eastman Kodak Co.
Worldwide Technical Svs.
Rochester, NY
mark.delettera@kodak.com
716-588-4189
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-24-2001, 02:33 PM:
 
A spell check would be unbelieveably hard. The forums you have seen them on were sponsored by a company that is no longer going to be offering their service next month, so for right now it is not a possibility.

 
Posted by Mark DeLettera (Member # 125) on 04-24-2001, 02:48 PM:
 
Thanks Brad. John P. tells me that 'spell check' was brought up a while back, but I must have missed that thread.
I'll keep "Webster" by the computer!

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Mark DeLettera
Eastman Kodak Co.
Worldwide Technical Svs.
Rochester, NY
mark.delettera@kodak.com
716-588-4189
 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-24-2001, 03:33 PM:
 
quote:
Sit down with a cup of and I'll bet you can.

Who is Ryan S. Cantor?


Ryan S. Cantor? Where the heck did that name come from? Ryan S. Cantor is

(picture that was here was deleted)

Is this the Ryan S. Cantor you're thinking of?


 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-24-2001, 03:42 PM:
 
"Is this the Ryan S. Cantor you're thinking of?"

Yep.


 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-24-2001, 08:24 PM:
 
Evans,

Why did you delete the pic?
 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-24-2001, 10:41 PM:
 
Okay, SOMEBODY is going to have to do this one. It might as well be me... Here goes...


Momma!



 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-24-2001, 11:05 PM:
 
Brad,

The Ryan Cantor thing was a little thing between Jerry Chase and I and after I understood the Ryan Cantor reference, I realized that it wasn't for the reason I first thought, so I deleted it. Jerry and I sent a few email messages back and forth and we both deleted part of our posts afterwards. There's no problem. It was a rather humorous side effect of the Joe icon, the details of which don't need to be elaborated here. It was sloppy housekeeping (or should I say sitekeeping) on my part 5 years ago!

When you're a system administrator and set up a WWW/ftp server (like on March 2, 1995), and control of it gets transferred to someone else (like in January 1998), make sure everything you put on it gets cleaned up. Let's just say that Ryan Cantor was a ghost in the machine.

An exorcism has been performed and well, you know, if you photograph a ghost, you're not supposed to be able keep the photographs.

I'm glad this was discovered, because there was a directory full of jokes on our department's anonymous ftp site. I put those there in summer 1993 back before our current organization existed in its current form. Over the years, I'd throw files in there simply for convenience, and, well, they were all still there for the world to see, in a place that is now totally inappropriate since we're under stricter configuration control, under a different type of organization that evolved slowly since then. The WWW server was put in place oin march 1995 and I soon abandoned the ftp site, leaving it as it was. I'm thankful that this was discovered by Jerry. It may have saved our admins (and me) embarrassment in the future!



 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-24-2001, 11:26 PM:
 
An odd coincidence is that my wife will probably be within a mile or less of Ryan this week while visiting family. Yes Evans, it is a small world.



 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-24-2001, 11:29 PM:
 
Yes. The whole thing made me look through some party pictures from some get-togethers at his [62] house. It brought back some great memories. It's a shame he moved away, but that's what happens to most of my friends over the years. They either move away or get married.


 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-26-2001, 12:13 AM:
 
On the subject of new icons: it is fun to create icons for a lot of different things, and for people. On the Film-Yak forums, I think these are fine, but on the other, more serious forums, I think people should stick to the basic set that we've always had, because if the recent icon craze gets out of hand, it may cause the more serious forums to appear less professional and may be something that might prevent some professionals in the industry from participating.

The [primary] purpose of the smileys is to express emotion to clarify or enhance writing so that readers will clearly understand how you feel when you're writing if words alone don't make that clear. Sometimes, the smileys are used effectively to put extra emotion or humor, where appropriate, into a post. The first icon of a person, Ian Price, struck me as odd, since I can't think of a way to use an icon of a person to put any useful emotional information into a post. I wouldn't use the icon to refer to the person since some readers would not know the person by the icon. This is the strangest developments of icons I've ever encountered on the net. Heck, I even created one myself (of Joe). I was definitely hip to it.

The icon that was recently created of me is funny, but I certainly wouldn't want it to appear in anything other than Film-Yak threads, since it is so downright freaky looking with long hair trailing from one side of a tiny head. It looks like something from a horror movie. Long hair really looks strange on a head-only picture that has no body because it's just there. An icon of a short-haired person works better since it yields a fairly elliptical figure.

I noticed a body-less sketch of Neil from "The Young Ones" and it's a face with long hair hanging down on both sides (no neck or anything). It's struck me as odd since I first saw it in 1994. My hair has been 33 inches long at certain times in the past.

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Info Site


 


Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-26-2001, 03:47 AM:
 
Joe, you were going well for a while, but... >>(because does not like curta s) when he sees... << is not spelt curtian..it is curt.a.i.n.

Signed...
The speel chocker

But you probably already knew that...


 


Posted by Dave Cutler (Member # 515) on 04-26-2001, 04:58 PM:
 
If you want to check out some of the more interesting smiley's that people have done, check out this website...

Smileys
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-26-2001, 05:10 PM:
 



 


Posted by Sean McKinnon (Member # 612) on 04-27-2001, 03:11 AM:
 
I think that everyone needs to cut the and that me, , , (the both of them) should get together for a few and then go ranshack the out of a projector factory, of course im joking im not even old enough to drink!
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-28-2001, 04:43 PM:
 
Anyone notice that Ian Price's new picture is now in scope?

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Info Site
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-28-2001, 05:11 PM:
 
Oh Evans, shame on you! Ian's picture is NOT scope, but is actually 2.75:1. That's even more than Cinemascope! Could it be that the Regal theaters in your area really DO have proper aspect ratios?
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-28-2001, 05:30 PM:
 
OK, so then it is Ultra Panavision or MGM Camera 65. I wasn't nerdy enough to actually download the picture and see what its exact size was (although I am nerdy enough to a lot of other strange things). I let my guard down one moment and look what happens.

Speaking of Regal theatres in my area and aspect ratios, can anyone from Regal give an update on whether that is getting approval to be fixed? The problem is not going to go away by itself. I need to make up some "Stop the Chop" bumper stickers. Maybe that would get some attention. Let movie lovers put them on their bumpers, and have the fine print explain what it's all about.

For now, I guess I need to work on an icon for that problem. Maybe a 2.39:1 image with two pairs of scissors on each side, cutting the picture to 1.85:1. If I make a vector-based version, it could be rasterized at different resolutions for printing on T-shirts or bumper stickers, or for WWW banners or icons.


 


Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 04-28-2001, 08:17 PM:
 
Well, I'm off tonight and there's nothing on tv, so my gift to you ...


 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-28-2001, 09:27 PM:
 
Wow! I really need to learn to use some tools to make animated things like that. Earlier, I was playing with Illustrator and made this:

I think many people can identify with not being able to read text sometimes on those screens, especially in movies like Dogma. Several people told me they couldn't read the opening text that appeared in that movie because the sides got chopped.



 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-28-2001, 10:18 PM:
 
Evans, try something more playful. Maybe it'll hit the news.

Something like "Now at Madison Square, all cinemascope films 1/3 OFF! That's right, 1/3rd less picture to distract you, all cinemascope pictures chopped off for your convenience.

or:
What do Loraina Bobbit(sp?)and Hollywood 18 have in common? Hint: Ever get the feeling your missing something? Stop the chop.

or:
The next time you pay to see a cinemascope film at Madison Square, tear off the ends of your $20 before giving it to the cashier. Chopped films deserve to be paid for with chopped money.

or:
When you pay for a pound of nuts, do you expect the store to keep 1/3 of them? Stop the nuts at Regal from cutting off 1/3 of our movies.

Since Regal does not produce the product, and a reasonable person would expect to see all of the film, there could be a legal argument that there have to be large signs at the box office and warnings declaring the entire scope film is not shown. In cases where subtitles and credits are chopped of, the claim could be made that Regal is selling an unmerchantable or defective product. Also, since credit placement is part of many actors contracts, failure to show those credits could be a technical violation of those contracts. Maybe a few letters to prominent actors could get wheels turning. It is much easier to push downhill than push uphill.


 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-28-2001, 11:40 PM:
 
Your ideas are good, Jerry, but great care has to be taken to make everything totally truthful.

I can't say "At Madison Square, all scope films 23 percent off" because 4 of their 12 auditoriums do have adjustable masking, and the other 8 don't.

The Lorena Bobbett (sp?) thing probably is a lost reference on many people, since that was in 1993.

The trick is to find something that is totally true that is playful without having to be too wordy.

About the legal aspects of what these Regal theatres are doing: I consider "scope at 1.85:1" presentations to be defective. It would be interesting to know what the studios and actors think of such presentations. It would be neat if studios would stop letting those theatres show scope movies in their small auditoriums until the problems are corrected.

Maybe when I visit these theatres, as I walk to the auditorium my show is in, I should notice which movies are playing in the small auditoriums and note any scope movies and start writing the studios that produce them when I have a substantial list. It would be neat to find some scenes where an actor's only appearance in a movie is in the chopped area and see how the actor feels about it.

Now I'll try to make an icon that is as small as possible that conveys a message about "scope a 1.85:1", which may be a challenge. Ah, a dollar bill is almost exactly the size of a scope image. The idea of chopped money may come in handy.

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Info Site


 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-29-2001, 01:35 AM:
 
"It would be neat if studios would stop letting those theatres show scope movies in their small auditoriums until the problems are corrected."

That is actually a feasable idea. There is precedent for distributors demanding certain auditoriums for the length of a run. If you had a petition signed by a fairly large group of moviegoers, you might be able to work that angle.

I understand the math idea of being exact, but unless you are afraid of getting sued, it is the concept that counts.

Given all the publicity that Regal and Cobb already have had over this situation, Regal is pretty dumb for not taking care of it.



 


Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 04-29-2001, 05:44 PM:
 
Evans, I'm too lazy to go find the answer myself ... are these screens really 1.85 or are they those _really_ stupid ones that are 2.0 where flat gets chopped top/bottom too?

Maybe they should be forced to play a snipe "This film has been modified from its original version. It has been formatted to fit our screens."

 


Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 04-29-2001, 05:49 PM:
 
Actually the snipe should read
Modified to fit our SUBSTANDARD sized screens


 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 04-29-2001, 06:19 PM:
 
Adam, They're not 2.00:1. They're definitely less than twice as wide as they are high. Now, the theatre I loved to hate the most, the old Cobb Cinema 8 on South Parkway, had 7 out of 8 screens that were 20x10. I hated those. The people that came up with these designs shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a theatre. They should be treated in the same manner as people who say "bomb" on an airplane.

The biggest obstacle in the way of getting these screens fixed is customer apathy. I really think that 90 percent of customers don't even know that there are two movie formats in common use, and that screens should adjust for both.

Maybe some creative icons and animated banners would help. I wish I were better at those types of things. I'm a scientist, but not much of an artist. I have long hair, but for some reason lack the artistic qualities that long-haired guys usually have.
 


Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 04-30-2001, 12:16 PM:
 
"Film Done Right" means "Caring About Composition":

Pytlak Kodak Cinema Notes Article "Caring About Composition"

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 04-30-2001, 02:57 PM:
 
"Film Done Right" means "Caring About Composition"

... but not proper English composition.

I'll have mine well-done, thank-you.
 


Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-01-2001, 01:06 PM:
 
Somehow, "Film presented in the proper way" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Anyway, poor English grammar has a fine history in the movies:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0024548

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-09-2001, 11:06 PM:
 
Not to dig up an old issue but as I was reading the Movie Reviews forum, I noticed that people were using things like when they wanted to say that a movie was bad.

Next time somebody's in the hacking mood, how about a "star" icon so people have something to put up when they think a movie (or some other thing) is good?
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-10-2001, 05:03 AM:
 
Ahem...Joe, that would be your cue.

(Can't forget the HALF star and the turkey icon too.)
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-10-2001, 05:38 PM:
 
Hey you haven't even set up the Randy and FilmGuard icons I created yet!
 




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