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Posted by Mike Judge (Member # 558) on 07-17-2001, 08:45 PM:
 
Well, aside from Film-Tech, what other sites do you find yourself being sucked into for extended periods of time? I'm curious becaue lately my variety of surfing has not been what is used to be. I enjoy cinematour.com and also imdb.com but I need more. What sucks you in?
 
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 07-17-2001, 09:31 PM:
 
All day suckers? I regularly check a few webcams to see what is going on in the world. One set is at:
http://www.tf1.fr/livecam/france_se.htm

The day isn't complete without a visit to the wacko news at:
http://www.rense.com/

(Hint, sometimes the stuff isn't as wacko as other times, but most of the time I don my tinfoil helmet and enjoy.)

For the other side of 70mm, there is always:
http://www.geocities.com/meta8mm/index.html

One of my own sites in need of an update:
http://www.electricrailroad.com/

A one time link for steam buffs:
http://www.spikesys.com/Trains/loco_bot.html

There are dozens of others, but some of those might entertain for a while.

 


Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 07-18-2001, 01:37 AM:
 
www.drive-ins.com

 
Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 07-18-2001, 02:54 AM:
 
Ebay, Ebay, EBAY!!

Besides the aforementioned auction site, I spend a bit of time at the following as well:
http://www.tibpriors.org
http://www.billboard.com
http://www.swingshift.net
http://www.triodeelectronics.com

Aaron


 


Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 07-18-2001, 05:45 AM:
 
homtheaterforum.com and dvdtalk.com
See what's keeping people out of the theaters!

I'll also plug my favorite dead formats:
cedmagic.com and 8trackheaven.com
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-18-2001, 06:35 AM:
 
The OverClocked ReMix
This is a site where people remix (from scratch in most cases) videogame and anime music. I have contributed about have a dozen or so tracks. I, of course, expect everyone to be EXTREMELY interested in this link!

Film-Tech
This is a crazy site where some people post a message or two on a forum. They talk about moving pictures and other crazy cool stuff.

DSL Reports
Great site to test your line speed, regardless of whether you use DSL, Cable, dial up modem, T1, or anything else. Pretty accurate! Just go to "Tools" on the left, and then scroll down and click "Speed Test"

My latest results are 2968kbps down and 2664kbps up (full duplex). What kind of results is everyone else getting?


 


Posted by Michael Brown (Member # 890) on 07-18-2001, 07:38 AM:
 
1332 down and 1413 up from the university connection.

Apparently the connection Rocks!
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-18-2001, 06:15 PM:
 
What kind of connection do you have, Michael? T1?


 


Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 07-18-2001, 06:45 PM:
 
woo-hoo
21K down
39K up
I'm below the "ugh" line

We're smokin!

------------------
Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/
 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-18-2001, 07:36 PM:
 
Joe, you suck.

(And I say this as one who will soon be turning up two more T1s at work...)
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-18-2001, 08:04 PM:
 
Scott!

I'd be interested to see the speed results from your SDSL connection and also your multiple T1 connections at work. I also wanna know what Pytlak is getting off of his Roadrunner cable modem.

Once I get better income, I think I'll pay the extra $20 and go for the 10meg connection. I'm not sure what good it would be, as not many sites can dish out info that fast. But it would be fun to brag about.


 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-18-2001, 08:59 PM:
 
The thing is, though, that having multiple T1 lines won't increase the maximum rate of transfer over what could be achieved with a single T1. What it does do is provide redundancy and the ability to do some load-balancing and traffic analysis in order to distribute traffic over multiple paths. In other words, the maximum speed isn't improved, but the overall performance of the network is better.

The best comparison would be to having a desktop computer with multiple processors. The extra processors don't improve the speed at which any one task can be performed, but they allow for better overall performance of multiple tasks being done simultaneously. The same applies for bandwidth.
 
Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 01:14 AM:
 
Well said Scott...although in a Unix multiprocessor environment single threads (no, not film ) can be spread across processors. Windows, a single thread cannot be split amongst processors.

** Speed 1211(down)/192(up) kbps ** LA CA
** Speed 694(down)/186(up) kbps ** SJC CA

That's with Bellsouth DSL in Georgia. I'm ashamed of the 694 Kbps *shudder*.

PS: Damn you Joe, and your full duplex line. I would love to be able to upload faster.


 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-19-2001, 01:30 AM:
 
Scott, yes I know about what you are explaining, I guess I should have stated myself better. I am curious as to what the average T1 line would register on DSL Reports. When you set a new one up, test the line speed before anyone starts to use it. Compare it to the line that is already being used. I wonder how much normal traffic would affect the result?

You CAN upload faster, Les, you just have to fork over more $$$ per month to Bellsouth. With Qwest DSL I was paying $30 a month (plus $18 for ISP charges totalling $48 a month) for 640 down and 270 up. If I wanted to pay more I could increase the speed up to 7mbps receive and 1Mbps send. I don't know how much that costs, but I can imaging that the answer would be in the hundreds per month. Now I am paying $45 a month for 3mbps bi-directional. No additional ISP charges apply. This is not DSL or Cable modem, but a fiber optic line to my house. It hits the junction where it is delivered to my wall via Cat5e cable. I don't even have a modem. Here is a picture of how it comes into the house (goes from here directly to a computer, switch, hub, or router):

I knew you'd want to see this exciting picture! What crazy stuff will they think of next?!

By the way Scott, Wide Open West gave me a static IP!


 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 01:52 AM:
 
Ok, no more spending money on bandwidth. I have to be happy with my DSL

Joe, I just get over you having bidirectional and then you have to throw in that you have a static ip too? I'm going to smack you. I don't know when this century AT&T or Bellsouth will be getting around to throwing fiber up to the house (it's used on the roads for cable and phone). Probably not too soon with the DSL market just now emerging.

That's absolutely cool about the incoming line into your house, although it does raise security concerns. Obviously you must be on some type of WAN architecture then.

I will run a line test tomorrow at work to see the average capabilities of a single T1 line. Then I'll try the OC-3


 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-19-2001, 01:57 AM:
 
Actually my static IP was not really supposed to be that way. I had to bitch. I was having speed problems at first so I kept calling. They finally changed my service over to a different router on their end. They told me that I was on a static IP now. Hopefully they don't move it. They said they'd call first if they were going to. They didn't seem to give any indication that there would ever be a reason to.

What the hell is OC-3?


 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 02:11 AM:
 
I work for a international teleconferencing company.. so we are all about the phone lines.

T-1 - 1.544 megabits per second (24 DS0 lines)
T-3 - 43.232 megabits per second (28 T1s)
OC-3 - 155 megabits per second (100 T1s)
OC-12 - 622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
OC-48 - 2.5 gigabits per seconds (4 OC12s)
OC-192 - 9.6 gigabits per second (4 OC48s)

(Yes, they do go higher than this.. but usually only internet backbone providers need that much bandwidth (UUNet/MCI, Spring, etc)).
 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 02:18 AM:
 
As for websites that I spend most of my day on...besides this one.
http://www.betanews.com
http://www.userfriendly.org
(Only because I work tech support, and this stuff kills me)
http://www.theonion.com
(SAMPLE HEADLINE)
300 Naked Women Feared Lost In Computer Crash
ELLICOTT CITY, MD-- An estimated 300 naked women, including actresses Pamela Anderson and Shannon Elizabeth, are feared lost as the result of a tragic computer crash Monday. "One minute, they were there, and the next, they were gone," said a visibly shaken Jonathan Blauvelt, 33, the Ellicott City resident whose Power Mac G4 was the site of the disaster. "To lose so many young girls in the blink of an eye like that, it's hard to comprehend. Angelina Jolie, Anna Kournikova, the chick from Species--it's just too much to bear." As data-recovery workers comb through the hard drive for signs of ass, Blauvelt is asking well-wishers to pray for the naked ladies' safe return.


 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-19-2001, 02:56 AM:
 
Ah! My Mac has gigabit ethernet on it (10/100/1000 base). I think I may get me one of them OC-192's for surfin' the internet! I'm sure it's really cheap! Just think of all of the porn I could download! (J/K,... I hope).

DSLReports' speed test is only reliable up to 5mbps.


 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 05:43 AM:
 
Ave. cost for an OC-3 is $35,000.-$49,000./mo.

Umm.. you do the math.


 


Posted by Michael Brown (Member # 890) on 07-19-2001, 06:40 AM:
 
I'm not sure what connection the university uses.

I just thought of a good site The Urban Legends Reference Page at www.snopes2.com

check out the disney section and decide for yourselves if there is a
phallic symbol on the Little Mermaid video cover or if in Aladin someone talkes about taking their clothes off. etc
 


Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 07-19-2001, 12:49 PM:
 
Les Daniels said:

"I work for a international teleconferencing company.. so we are all about the phone lines.

T-1 - 1.544 megabits per second (24 DS0 lines)
T-3 - 43.232 megabits per second (28 T1s)
OC-3 - 155 megabits per second (100 T1s)
OC-12 - 622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
OC-48 - 2.5 gigabits per seconds (4 OC12s)
OC-192 - 9.6 gigabits per second (4 OC48s)"

"Ave. cost for an OC-3 is $35,000.-$49,000./mo."

For a reasonable download time (few hours?) of a 40-50 gigabyte Digital Cinema movie file, what data rate would be used today? What would be the cost of a dedicated connection? If a theatre needed to download about 12 movies a month, could they contract for a fractional line? Or would a better option be to take a much longer time on a slower line?

Obviously a dedicated OC-3 would be fast, but $35,000 - $49,000 a month would cost a theatre many times more than the cost to make a dozen film prints, not to mention the cost of mastering, encryption, watermarking, etc. Data delivery does have a price.

------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 02:17 PM:
 
I wouldn't even want to go into all the technicalities of what would be possible to download digital video for a theatre. There are just too many options... Why not just take a slower line/less cost and have the movie download over a longer time.

I wouldn't see the need to rush something that already takes a couple days to be received. *shrug* Don't digital camera's already work off of "uploading" cd's to the projector?

Anyone have any links as to where I could find more information about the data storage of a digital projector? More technical the better


 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 02:34 PM:
 
Assuming it was a 50 GIG file... here are the estimated download times for different bandwidths.

T1 - 74 Hrs 15 Min 28 Sec
T2 - 18 Hrs 33 Min 52 Sec
Satellite - 4 Hrs 45 Min 8 Sec
T3 - 2 Hrs 28 Min 30 Sec
T4 - 24 Hrs 45 Sec

OC1 - 2 Hrs 14 Min 4 Sec
OC3 - 0 Hrs 44 Min 9 Sec
OC12 - 0 Hrs 11 Min 24 Sec
OC48 - 2 Min 51 Sec

Of course, personally I don't agree with these numbers, and these are based on "perfect world" numbers...
 


Posted by Les Daniels (Member # 931) on 07-19-2001, 02:48 PM:
 
And... for Greg Mueller

The download for a 50 Gig digital movie would be.....according to his line test speeds.

*drumroll please*

2001 Hrs 28 Min and 0 Sec


 


Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 07-19-2001, 05:42 PM:
 
Regarding the "storage" issue: the demos so far have used a Qubit disk array, which incorporates proprietary compression technology. http://www.quvis.com/ has some information, though nothing terribly technical.
 
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 07-20-2001, 10:45 AM:
 
Les said: "And... for Greg Mueller

The download for a 50 Gig digital movie would be.....according to his line test speeds.

*drumroll please*

2001 Hrs 28 Min and 0 Sec"

Gee, Greg could download 4 movies a year at that rate, and only have to pay about $250 for his Internet Service Provider, plus the cost of a dedicated phone line. Let's just hope he doesn't suffer a disconnect during the 2001 hours it takes to download.

Of course, after 83 days of downloading before Greg can play the movie, it will already be available on home video and cable.

------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
 


Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 07-20-2001, 11:01 AM:
 
"Of course, after 83 days of downloading before Greg can play the movie, it will already be available on home video and cable. "

How much do you want to bet it'll end up being a movie he doesn't like?


 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 09-20-2001, 02:00 PM:
 
Getting back to the original subject of this thread, here's an interesting one that I stumbled across today.
The Gallery of Regrettable food
(The "10PM Cookery" under "Recipe Books" is pretty amusing.)

There's more at the base domain address www.lileks.com


 


Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 02-18-2002, 10:14 PM:
 
I have to put in my plug for www.cinematour.com ! I submitted some pics of Cinemark 17 in Springfield, also an exterior shot of Regal Cinema World 8 in Eugene. Not the best quality images but OK (may give it another try sometime). Very cool web site.

[Re: Regal Cinema World 8. As you can see, the entire front of the building is glass, and facing south-west, so it gets full daylight. The booth is on a kind of catwalk above the lobby, and it's partially exposed to all this outside light, which explains why they have trouble with light infiltration in some of the auditoriums]

If you haven't sent in pics of your theater, hop to it!

------------------
- dave
Look at this! His chin strap has been cut!


 


Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-18-2002, 10:28 PM:
 
Favorites are... www.cinematreasures.com www.diyaudio.com www.ebay.com There's way too much cool junk there to pass up! Also,http://www.tomshardware.com/

Hey Joe, That DSL test site is way cool I got 458kb down and 123kb up for my test results. Pretty close to what AT&T cable claims for this area and alot better than the Qwest DSL crap that I had.
That site sure needs your help on their front page though. Its a bloomin mess!
Mark @ GTS


 


Posted by Adam Fraser (Member # 1074) on 02-18-2002, 10:38 PM:
 
Just had to put my word in, Mark told me about www.cinematreasures.com, it is a very interesting site, Only problem was it took over a month to get our theatre on there..."The Pines Theatre" .. As for other favorites i would have to say Ebay, www.carstats.com (0-60 times), hollywood.com (some movie reviews and gross', movies.yahoo.com (has all movies released currently in the US and Gross'
 
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 02-19-2002, 01:40 AM:
 
a truly pathetic site than is worth mentioning here:
http://www.deathclock.com

they even sell you a clock that is a countdown to when you are supposed to die.


As for connection speeds, I'm on ADSL.

1440kb ( download ) / 416kb ( upload )
 


Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-19-2002, 09:28 AM:
 
Gee, I'm going to live till I'm 94! Cool. Thats pretty much like the rest of the family.
MArk @ GTS
 
Posted by Bernard Tonks (Member # 809) on 02-20-2002, 05:54 AM:
 
A projectionist friend recently visited a cinema in New Zealand with Gaumont Kalee projectors on 2000’ reel changeovers. www.paradiso.net.nz

CINEMA PARADISO, WANAKA, NEW ZEALAND
By Dave Smith - Otago Daily Times -Saturday, 13-November 1999

IT WOULD be rare to find a cinema listed as a tourist attraction in an international backpackers guide, let alone find a classic Morris Minor convertible as part of the everyday furniture. But, Lonely Planet lists the Wanaka Cinema Paradiso in the "must do" category and yes, it does have an old car parked in the front row.

You will not find all the trappings of a posh, up-market big-city cinema in Wanaka. It is more like watching home movies in the comfort of your lounge. Sofas and couches are liberally sprinkled through the small, intimate theatre tucked away just off the state highway entrance into Wanaka.

While owners Calum McLeod, his wife Andrea Riley and friend Brian Hildreth did not deliberately set out four years ago to create such a popular ambience in their business, it came about more out of necessity. Mr McLeod recalled how they originally set up in the Wanaka town hall with one couch. "That is where the rugby scrums started as everyone wanted the comfortable couch." Garage sales and second-hand stores unearthed the rest of the seating and cushions which have become the trademark of the cinema. There are a couple of rows of the traditional old movie seats if nostalgia is your thing.

The trio started their business after buying a screen from Charlie Gilligan, of Dunedin, who then referred them to a retired Auckland projectionist who had a couple of projectors. "Brian drove to Auckland in his Holden and returned with the projectors in bits." Mr Gilligan, who had served a four-year apprenticeship, then helped them piece together the 1920s jig-saw and gave them a four-day introduction to running a movie theatre, Mr McLeod said. He said the town hall was ideal because it had a projection room and was basically set up for movies.

Twelve months ago they decided to set up a purpose-built cinema elsewhere. They had intended to have a Holden and a Falcon car installed on either side of the projection room and claim to be operating a cinema and drive-in. "It was just too hard to put the cars in while we were building the interior," he said with a grin. Instead, a group of friends salvaged the "Morrie" from a rural paddock and applied copious quantities of yellow paint to brighten up the car.

Mr McLeod explained the name came from an award-winning Italian movie about a small town picture theatre. "It was the social hub of the town before the advent of videos and computer games." Attending a recent early evening screening was a social occasion and not just sitting in a darkened room watching the "flicks". Wanaka teenagers swapped gossip while mums and dads sat patiently with their young ones intent on consuming fizzy drinks, ice cream and popcorn.

It was certainly different from my formative years watching black and white movies in a tin shed at the Trentham army camp. Threepence to get in and the same amount to spend on an ice cream. In those days, the ones who could afford more luxurious lollies like Jaffas and Snifters were more content to listen to their sweets roll down the wooden floor from the back to the front, amidst much mirth. It is a bit hard to get the same effect these days when the floor is carpeted. Mr McLeod did admit the kids tossed around the home-made popcorn, but it was nothing a vacuum cleaner could not fix.

He has also been likened to Basil Fawlty, of the television programme, when starting a film session. "They seem to love it when I hurl abuse at them and the kids give it back." He said it was easy to spot the tourists and city dwellers as they arrived 10 minutes before show time. "The locals walk in 10 minutes late, which is why the movies don't often start on time." But no-one seemed to care, he said, as it was better to start late and not have all the interruptions.

Intermissions were also a regular occurrence and being a "true Scotsman", he admitted it was a time when he put a little extra through the till. "It is also an important social time, when people chat and mingle rather than just sit in a dark room for a couple of hours." The business makes its own popcorn, hot cookies at half-time, coffee and ice cream.

The cinema diverted from its main income recently to stage live theatre, which Mr McLeod said was something he was looking at doing more of in the future. "The audience think it's great and the actors love the interaction."

Despite having a Bachelor of Arts degree in history and politics and being a qualified chef, Mr McLeod was content to provide entertainment to visitors and locals alike.



 


Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 02-20-2002, 04:58 PM:
 
Yes, the Padadiso is a great place to watch a movie. Callum is quite nuts.
"Being a true Scotsman" is apt as the intermission can go on for quite a while (as long as they are making money) which would make programming difficult to say the least.
Callum has exactly what the public wants.
Cater for their needs no matter how strange that may seem to "make your theatre better"
 
Posted by Owen Shave (Member # 1156) on 02-20-2002, 10:07 PM:
 
www.imdb.com
 
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-21-2002, 12:32 PM:
 
Check out this site....
http://www.reversephonedirectory.com
 
Posted by Bernard Tonks (Member # 809) on 02-22-2002, 06:05 AM:
 
The Film Distributors' Association in the UK have a useful website with links to all the film companies and other information. www.launchingfilms.com


 


Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 03-05-2002, 01:58 PM:
 
Here's a new toy for you all

Click here: dMarie Time Capsule

Place in your browser


 


Posted by Kelsey Black (Member # 126) on 03-09-2002, 01:10 AM:
 
I have been frequenting Slashdot for about a year now, and every few months I frequent HOT or NOT, which I can spend hours on end at...
especially taking into consideration I'm on dialup and I usually don't connect any faster than 26.4, but I make up for it in uptime. I normally stay continuously connected for weeks, with interruptions due to hardware fiddling.

Kelsey Black


 


Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 02-02-2003, 04:25 PM:
 
These are among my bookmarks:

The Obscure Store and Reading Room. It carries the news people want to read! Now in its fifth year online.

The Memory Hole. "Rescuing knowledge, freeing information" from those who want to keep it secret.

Strike the Root. "A Journal of Liberty".
 
Posted by Kara J. McVay (Member # 1285) on 02-02-2003, 07:40 PM:
 
www.fark.com Just plain funny, looking the photoshop ones just a good time had by all.

http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html Strongbad is just cool..
 
Posted by John Spooner (Member # 1565) on 02-03-2003, 09:08 AM:
 
I went to DSL REPORTS to check the modem speed, but it is only for America. No good for we Antipodeans down under.
Does anyone know the address of a site in Australia?
John Spooner. South Australia.
 
Posted by John Spooner (Member # 1565) on 02-03-2003, 10:23 AM:
 
In regards to sites, there is a site called "www.rotten.com"
It is terrible and can be quite gross, but these aspects can also make it entertaining.
John Spooner. South Australia.
 
Posted by Richard Miller (Member # 1405) on 02-03-2003, 04:39 PM:
 
I like to look at The Smoking Gun. They have mug shots, law suits and such that make national news. Plus there is a lot of other funny stuff.
 
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 02-03-2003, 04:51 PM:
 
www.speedtest.com works from New Zealand
 
Posted by Joseph Pandolfi (Member # 223) on 02-03-2003, 08:37 PM:
 
My internet radio station www.live365.com/stations/133027 featuring over 950 songs from the 50's to the 80's.
 
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 02-04-2003, 04:20 AM:
 
Dangit, Kara! I was gonna post the Homestar Runner link! [Big Grin] Actually, I was gonna say www.homestarrunner.com. The whole site. Although I have to agree, Strong Bad is awesome.

What's up with Bob Maar's pic?
 




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