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Posted by Manuel Francisco Valencia (Member # 710) on 11-21-2001, 04:45 AM:
Being four in the morning and just getting in and checking the forums and noticing only one other post since I've been on makes me wonder who else works late in the night. I do not usually get in this late. Most of the time I get out at or around one and usually get up and go back at nine. Lately I have been working a lot. I racked up 145 hours one pay period recently. I know that probably isn't much compared to what some of you work but out of curiousity I would like to know.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 11-21-2001, 08:27 AM:
I'm usually at the keyboard at Kodak from 7:00am until about 5:00pm weekdays. I often log on from home as well. Can be reached 24/7 at my Kodak phone number or cell phone (but it better be an emergency if it's in the middle of the night or on weekends
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Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 11-21-2001, 04:05 PM:
Since this is a world wide forum...the hours of posting seem to be 24/7. Our business focus is international and my family has been involved in international trade since the late 1920's with me being the 3rd generation.....my grandfather joked with me if it was not for my grandmother complaining that he was having too much fun in Argentina, I would not exist..... I find myself starting my "workweek" on Sunday evening talking to Asia and early mornings to other time zones....I have learned not to have e-mail at home so I can have some peace, but then my office is 2km from my house...but there is always Film-Tech if I find myself starting at 3 - 4 a.m......Long hours are O.K. if you like what you are doing.
Richard Fowler
TVP-Theatre & Video Products Inc. www.tvpmiami.com
Posted by Gary Martin (Member # 1053) on 11-28-2001, 05:07 PM:
for me personally
thursday 10-12hrs( make up day)
friday " " maintenance break downs
sat 15 hrs
sun 13 hrs 2 hrs for a lie so my manager says !"!"!"!"!"
mon 8-10 hrs
tue call out only
wed call out only
all above subject to change should emergencys happen or sickies
personally i believe death to be the only real reason for a sickie but that is a projectionist thing correct me if i am wrong
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 11-28-2001, 08:47 PM:
I think Richard is right; with e-mail,pagers, cell phones, etc. and the desire to stay competitive (especally in these tough economic times) people really work longer than a standard workday.A slightly disappointing thing, though. A few "bosses" I have talked to do not exactly feel that way. For example, a friend works for a "dot.com" company (which admittedly are in tough times now.) There was a problem with a customer's web page, and the HTML guy called my friend and talked to him for about 1/2 hour while he was seeing a film at my theater.
Now, my friend didn't want to leave work 1/2 hour early the next day or any other compensation. (In fact, their staff is so "cut to the bone" no one can take any time.) He simply wanted his boss to acknowledge that he gave something extra, so the boss knows he is working hard and doing the best he can.
The boss felt that my friend's inconveince was "trivial"; not even worth mentioning. After all, the company pays for the cell phone (he said.) And he wasn't doing anything important, like being at a wedding or something.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 11-29-2001, 04:42 AM:
I find that mobile 'phones can have the opposite effect and actually limit the extent to which people pester you unnecessarily.Although my job (as a film archivist) is theoretically office hours, as with everyone else theory is never practice and I'm almost always catching up on work at home (5-10 hours weekday evenings across the week and about the same over the weekend, on average). Occasionally I have to go into work in an emergency, for example if regional TV news needs footage urgently. To deal with such situations I give my mobile number to anyone and everyone, but no-one is given my home land line number except friends and relatives. In the event that I don't want to be pestered (e.g. when on leave), I switch the mobile off - it's as simple as that.
Because calling a mobile 'phone is so expensive (I'd guess about the equivalent of a dollar per minute during peak time, falling to 70 cents off-peak and weekends), I find that people don't do it unless they have to, especially now that many 'phone systems in large office buildings are configured not to allow outgoing calls to mobiles without permission from a manager. So by only giving people a mobile number (and I pay for the 'phone so no-one can tell me when I can and can't switch it off) I am still easily contactable if there's a good reason, but the cost discourages people from ringing me if there isn't.
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 11-29-2001, 08:07 AM:
Wait a minute -- it costs extra to call *to* a mobile phone over there??
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 11-29-2001, 11:21 AM:
I am currently on a construction site of a new theatre in the Las Vegas area. Everything is just about done as far as the construction goes but myself and the management team are putting in ungodly hours. We arrive everyday at 9am and work to 8pm right now but that is starting to extend. We are putting together new equipment, placing the equipment, hiring staff, setting up accounts, cleaning up dust, testing the equipment etc... We open on 12/19 to the public and as we get closer to that date, I expect to be up to close to 100 hours a week. To say the least, I am starting to get tired but it is worth it.
Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 11-29-2001, 11:29 AM:
Basically I work 9-5 weekdays, but extra hours are put in earlier or later in the day as required. Weekends are call out only, and you better have a damned good reason for dragging me away from whatever I was doing! Try ons have included; I've run out of splicing tape, my lamp has failed and I don't have a spare / I don't know how to change it, etc, etc.Ken, welcome to 'rip-off Britain'. Not only does it cost extra to call a cell phone, it depends what time of day and which particular network you are calling from / to. The only saving grace is that we do not pay for incoming calls, but that's countered by the inflated line rental. Why are we paying for 'line' rental?? There are no blasted lines! OK there are cellular base stations, but nothing on the scale of the fixed network that forms our PSTN. My own cell phone (well the companys one that I carry) costs three times what a land line would in line rental, PLUS the calls!
To send a message to a pager is expensive too, but only for the sender, most pager networks do not charge any connection or rental fee.
I could go on endlessly about the ways in which we in the UK are being ripped off, but I won't 
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 11-29-2001, 11:49 AM:
Much like Chris, I just opened a theater two weeks ago. I'm still in the "here every waking moment" phase and am working well over 100 hours a week. Hypothetically, things will eventually come together nicely and I'll work about 50 hours a week normally. Or at least that's what I'm telling myself.
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 11-29-2001, 11:23 PM:
Ah, the memories of opening a theatre. I wish I could see it, Chris. When I was helping out with the opeing of Bonita Springs, I didn't do much in the booth. I'd really like to see a booth installed from scratch.
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 11-30-2001, 12:13 AM:
Be afraid, Ken. Be very afraid. 
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 11-30-2001, 12:37 AM:
Sounds like you chaps in the UK need a healthy dose of deregulation.
Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 11-30-2001, 12:40 AM:
I have done my time in hell already by helping with an install with previous theatres I have opened. I am glad I am not doing this time. The only thing I helped with this time was to phase check the speakers in all houses which is about as tedious as it gets. Ken, you you may want to do an install at least once but after that, leave it to the techs...unless you want to be a tech yourselve.
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 12-01-2001, 01:32 AM:
Bingo!
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 12-01-2001, 02:07 AM:
Ken, Chistopher is right. Actually, installing a booth using consoles is not really that bad. But if it is what I call a "conventional setup", that's a different story. When they give you a room and say "make it go", you could have your hands full. One booth I did in 1984 (maybe 1985) was like that.
The only thing that was on the wall was individual projection station power panels. I had to take it from there, which included mounting of the raceways, dimmers, sound equipment racks, etc. I had to build up all the sound racks, and all the projection and film transport equipment, and do all the wiring to interface all that crap.
Once I got that done with that, I had to hang surround speakers, and wire the masking motors, strap and shelve the stage speakers, and anything else that needed to be done in order to make it go. Then, naturally, I had to equalize the auditoriums.
It took about 16 hours per station to mount all the crap and wire it in. That did not include the auditorium work I had to do.
I might add that it all passed electrical inspection.

Then, in July, I helped one of my friends build a carbon-arc manually operated booth. This took a while, as the weather in that area he lives was just too hot for me, and I had a very difficult time adapting to it. That weather slowed me down to a snail's pace. But it finally came together. 
Building a booth can be lots of fun, but is also being capable of just the opposite.
When you do it, you might as well plan for lots of working. It is easier now, as most states require a electrical contractor to do all the work for you. In 1984-1985 when I put that booth together, all that was required of me was that I was an employee of that company, I knew what I was doing, and make sure it meets code.
Times have changed in the last 17 years. Now I can finally sit on my butt and "Dictate".
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 12-01-2001, 10:28 AM:
The best part of an install is when it's all done and working properly and you can sit back and say, "I did that."
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 12-01-2001, 01:08 PM:
Adam, that's what makes it so much fun to install them. Especially when that booth runs glitch-free from day one. 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 12-03-2001, 05:28 AM:
Dustin: we sure do. Once we've coughed up for the mobile 'phone, then there's the 80% tax on petrol (gasoline), which results in a cost of approx. $5 per gallon (except that the European Union has banned us from using imperial measurements, so that should be $5 per 4.56 litres), the most expensive rail transport (mile for mile) in the world, 17.5% VAT (sales tax) on virtually everything except food and a government which does bugger all (nothing) to stop cartels and price fixing which artificially inflates the cost of eveything relative to other western countries. And for all this tax (if you take into account all the 'stealth taxes' introduced over the last 4 years we actually pay more tax than most European countries, not less as Blair keeps telling us) our public services are just as bad as everywhere else's if not worse.When you guys are through bombing the Taliban, please could you get the B52s to drop the last few on the European Commission in Brussels on their way back? And if there are any bombs left after that please drop them on Tony Blair and that useless bunch he calls a cabinet.