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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-16-2002, 11:39 PM:
Well, The folks that ran this GA Crematory were definately a couple of slackers! Check this out. Its gross! http://www.msnbc.com/news/709182.asp?0dm=C16TN
Mark @ GTS
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-17-2002, 01:10 AM:
That has to be the laziest person I've ever heard of. Creamating someone isn't THAT much of a hassle. Maybe they were necropheliacs.
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 02-17-2002, 01:27 AM:
that's just nasty!
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 02-17-2002, 08:17 AM:
Definitely an example of, "crematorium done wrong!"
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-17-2002, 11:04 AM:
Maybe he couldn't afford the gas bill
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 02-17-2002, 08:15 PM:
The owner claims that his furnace was on the fritz.Can you imagine walking up on a scene like that?
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-17-2002, 09:01 PM:
Somehow the math doesn't work If it is 15 years then the count should be much higher 200 bodies would be about 50 days worth
Posted by Keith Peticolas (Member # 971) on 02-17-2002, 09:58 PM:
...And that's why I live and stay in Alaska.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-17-2002, 10:16 PM:
There are probably dead bodies rotting somewhere in Alaska as well. No one is safe from stumbling upon a sea of rotting corpses!
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 02-17-2002, 11:14 PM:
Actually, the bodies sprawled around in Alaska are frozen and perfectly preserved. Its too damned cold up there for the bodies to rot.
Posted by Keith Peticolas (Member # 971) on 02-18-2002, 12:08 AM:
Actually we can and sell 'em as tourist food.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-18-2002, 05:00 AM:
Maybe this bloke hadn't realised that George W. Bush had abandoned the Kyoto protocol and was trying to do his bit to cut greenhouse gas emissions...
Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 02-18-2002, 10:37 AM:
I love how his excuse is that his machine was broken. It must take awhile to get parts for that. What's creepy to me is the thought of having someone's charred remains in an urn on my mantel or wherever. I just don't see the comfort in that.------------------
"Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk!" - Homer Simpson
Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 02-18-2002, 01:13 PM:
I'm sorry, but 200+ bodies dating back 3 to 10 years is more than just broken machinery, or laziness. Its absolutly morbid that someone could have those bodies just laying around on their lot, Georgia summers aren't pleasent as they are. Add to the fact that the guy was burning wood chips to produce the ashes given to the realitives. This guy is to creamation as Technicolor is to film distribution.
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-18-2002, 01:33 PM:
Actually, the guy's not stupid. WHat he was doing was setting up Hollywood for a whole new line of Horror films that he will get a cut on.
John Carpenter, better get your typewriter out! I can see at least 5 or 6 sequels comming out of the first release.Of course the first one would simply be called..........
"Crematory"
But then.....the onslaught would follow.........
"Crematory 2, The Stench Of A Hot Georgia Summer"
"Crematory 3, The New Furnace Arrives"
"Crematory 4, Ray Brent Marsh Is Back"
"Crematory 5, At The Bottom Of The Lake"
And of course the last chapter.........
"Crematory 6, Ray Brent Marsh Back Behind Bars"
Mark @ Old GTS
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-18-2002, 05:52 PM:
This is truly disgusting! Especially the stories on newsshows like 60 Minutes in the past few years about funeral home fraud!Marsh was just too cheap to pay the natural gas bill for the retort! I wonder if he was not lazy enough to knock out gold fillings and the removal of other "valuables!"
Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 02-18-2002, 06:14 PM:
Whats surprising is that no one discovered this before now? Surely someone who was on the property wouldve seen something and reported it earlier.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-18-2002, 06:52 PM:
I am suprised no auditor noticed no either natural gas or oil bills
Repairs to most retorts for relineing the brick work are more expensive than theatre equipment but usually the custmoers don't talk back 
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-18-2002, 07:11 PM:
Gordon...And how would you know about relining retorts 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-18-2002, 07:29 PM:
You would be suprised at things I know
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-18-2002, 07:38 PM:
Careful Will, Gord may be the last one to let you down!
Mark @ Home
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-18-2002, 07:41 PM:
Never be surprised when Gordon speaks.....He knows and from what he say's.....we will learn. Let us all remember that if there is one in Georgia there is probably another one someplace else.
Check your local creamatoriums and let us know.
Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-19-2002, 09:48 AM:
This morning the count was up to 139. Maybe we should have a contest to see who can guess the ultimate number of bodies they find. Let's see, what prize can we have for first place (please, no gold medals)------------------
Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 02-19-2002, 09:52 AM:
I hope this isn't one of those "how many jellybeans are in the jar?" contests in which you win the jellybeans.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-19-2002, 10:22 AM:
I guess the burning question is how many they don't find
Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-19-2002, 10:33 AM:
"burning question" very punny------------------
Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-19-2002, 10:44 AM:
(donning flame proof suit) Nice retort, Gordon. You must have had a burning desire to respond. Every time I see this thread, I'm reminded of all the guys in the backwoods that grew up with old cars and appliances strewn around the countryside. Is this learned behavior or genetic? I guess it could be something in the water... like Grandma Jones?
My big question is... Who gets the movie rights? There has to be another horror film in this. Maybe the corpses are vampires and keep turning off the gas? Ghosts of a Cherokee family are preventing burials and cremations? Chipmunks have organized under a lead chipmunk named Willard to destroy local business?
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-19-2002, 07:19 PM:
149 and counting
The new title song for the movie mark will be "i burn for you"
The last scandle like this was the David Sconce affair in Passedena and the SCI one in Florida
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-19-2002, 07:30 PM:
I am really suprised that I have not seen Jay Leno comment on this subject......In any case, since the rest of you are having fun w/tasteless jokes regarding this horrid subject.....here goes.....
No excuse for the retort to be broken.....they could have contacted the nazis for technical assistance 
Posted by Joe Beres (Member # 678) on 02-19-2002, 07:51 PM:
Will, there were some tasteless and stupid jokes here, mine among them, but I really hve to say that I think you crossed the line when you bring up the Nazis. Some folks were making light of a terrible situation, but I think your comment equated a terrible situation with an atrocity of an unbelieveable scale.No hard feelings, but I thought that needed to be said.
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-19-2002, 08:09 PM:
Sorry if I offended anyone....This crap is a tremendous atrocity....
However, my family were victims of the nazis, and I have many friends who also were.....
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-19-2002, 09:05 PM:
Will, You mean YOU HAD some friends that were handles by the Nazis.
BTW: I found the old LaVezzi catalog and will scam it and send it to you.Its up to 191 Bodies (according to MSN)and climbing.
Mark @ Home
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-20-2002, 01:19 AM:
Damn... a lot of corpses are turning up! They cover a much larger area then previously thought. I found 3 corpses in my backyard tonight!
Posted by Christopher Santapaola (Member # 1015) on 02-20-2002, 08:48 AM:
Just to take everyone a step back.Think about the problem solving ability of this guy.
You have to be pretty organized to hide all those bodies without anyone being the wiser for such a long period of time.
Perhaps Lucas should hire him to get rid of Jar-Jar.
:-)
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-20-2002, 09:16 AM:
On the radio this morning they said that some of the corpses were 'mummified' and that others had been decomposing for 15-20 years. Yet the bloke they arrested only took over the place in 1996; if these two facts are correct, then there must have been others involved. But the Police don't seem to be looking for anyone else. Sounds strange to me...
Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-20-2002, 09:20 AM:
My wife heard yesterday on the radio that it cost about $25(gas) to cremate a body. Maybe (repair) labor is really high there. Maybe this is an X-File.------------------
Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-20-2002, 10:51 AM:
The average cost to purchase a retort is 80,000-100,000 canadian and depending on use about 30,000 canadian to rebrick every 1 to 2 years.
Depending on daily usage the gas consumption varries as it must be heated to 1800 degrees and usually take about 2 hours per cycle 
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-20-2002, 11:15 AM:
WOW! I'm moving to Canada to learn retort relining. It doesn't seem to cost that much down here........From the CNN article........."When he was arrested last Saturday, Marsh told authorities the facility's incinerator had not worked for some time, Wilson said.
A spokesman for the company that made the incinerator said the Marshes had since 1984 declined all offers to service the unit, but they did buy a key part in August 1997.
Roger Elliott from Industrial Equipment & Engineering Co., based in Orlando, Florida, said he did not know whether the part was ever installed.
Elliott said his company's records show that Marsh's father, also named Ray, purchased a $20,000 incinerator in fall 1982, the same year IEE manufactured it.
IEE serviced the incinerator in November 1984, but subsequent offers to service the unit were declined, Elliott said. He noted, however, the Marshes could have had another company perform the maintenance, which is recommended every two years.
Elliott said there was nothing in company records indicating what Tri-State's response was to the service offers. A service call costs $795. The type of incinerator the family bought could cremate 200 bodies a year on average, Elliott said.
When he was arrested last Saturday, Marsh told authorities the facility's incinerator had not worked for some time, Wilson said.
A spokesman for the company that made the incinerator said the Marshes had since 1984 declined all offers to service the unit, but they did buy a key part in August 1997.
Roger Elliott from Industrial Equipment & Engineering Co., based in Orlando, Florida, said he did not know whether the part was ever installed.
Elliott said his company's records show that Marsh's father, also named Ray, purchased a $20,000 incinerator in fall 1982, the same year IEE manufactured it.
IEE serviced the incinerator in November 1984, but subsequent offers to service the unit were declined, Elliott said. He noted, however, the Marshes could have had another company perform the maintenance, which is recommended every two years.
Elliott said there was nothing in company records indicating what Tri-State's response was to the service offers. A service call costs $795. The type of incinerator the family bought could cremate 200 bodies a year on average, Elliott said. "
Man, these people would fit right into the "Cheap Theatre Operator" catagory like a glove.......
Mark @ Old GTS
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-20-2002, 11:34 AM:
Look up spontanious human combustion. There was a tv program on the subject where it was discovered that a person wrapped in a wool blanket (which acts like a wick and insulation) can self-immolate in a small room with limited airflow. The body fat does the work, and even bones are incinerated by the slow burn. (I guess thin folks might need to have a little bacon fat added.)This guy needed to watch more tv.
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-20-2002, 02:04 PM:
Jerry, You have a good memory, I remember watching that show when it was first on. Think I can remember the name of the program, think again. I am lucky I remember the creamatory in Goldfinger. My memory 
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 02-20-2002, 02:41 PM:
What was the name of that creamatory, Bob? I'm terrible at names, my mind usually acts like a slip-clutch on a 6,000 ft reel when trying to remember them. 
Gordon, why does the cart in that second picture look suspiciously like a modified Christie MUT? Are you moonlighting?
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-21-2002, 04:32 AM:
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The type of incinerator the family bought could cremate 200 bodies a year on average, Elliott said.
That works out at just over one per working day! Does it really take a whole day just to cremate one body?
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-21-2002, 09:09 AM:
Jerry in Goldfing it was "Slumber Inc"Leo the average is 90 min - 2 hours
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-21-2002, 09:17 AM:
Thanks, Gordon..I was racking my brain trying to think of "Slumber Inc." However, like Jerry's brain my brain doesn't want to remember anymore.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-21-2002, 09:20 AM:
OK, let's call that four stiffs per day. Multiply that by five (the number of working days in a week) and you get 20 per week. Let's reduce the working year by two weeks to allow for public holidays and downtime for maintenance, and multiply that by 50. That gives you a throughput of 1,000 corpses per year. But the manufacturer of the incinerator is saying it can only do 200...
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-21-2002, 09:51 AM:
Leo,
They all work bankers hours, didn't you know that? Then they have to clean out the oven when thyy're done baking, that probably takes 10 hours or something like that. Nothing worse than baked on gunk in an oven!
Mark @ Old GTS
Posted by Greg Mueller (Member # 17) on 02-21-2002, 10:01 AM:
I think it was "Diamonds Are Forever" instead of "Goldfinger"------------------
Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-21-2002, 10:27 AM:
Yes it was Diamonds are Forever for who could forget Miss Plenty and of course the two guards of Willard White Bambi and Thumper
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-21-2002, 11:11 AM:
Now that you mention it, it was "Diamonds Are Forever" I must be in my Ronald Reagan school of thought.
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-21-2002, 02:10 PM:
So Gordon, where did you get those pictures from? I cannot believe that anyone would watch the process with the door open--thats disgusting---and sooo many ovens in one facility? Servicing and repairing those ovens would be one hell of a disgusting job....YUCK!and ya, that loading mechanism does look like a modified Christie MUT!
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-21-2002, 02:47 PM:
Mark,I think they have "Self cleaning" ovens now, just like the ones we buy in a vein attempt to cook food at home.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-21-2002, 03:27 PM:
Actually the door is open for service with nothing inside
Also the burner is on lowfire if it was on highfire you would not be able to stand in front of it
Posted by Oscar Neundorfer (Member # 458) on 02-22-2002, 06:50 AM:
Just when I thought it was safe to say I am from Georgia...------------------
Oscar Neundorfer
Chief Engineer
SMART Devices, Inc.
oscar@smartdev.com
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 02-23-2002, 09:52 AM:
Right On, Oscar!I just want to remind all of you that I live just 88 miles from this place.
I hear on local TV that they are planning to drain the lake next.
I'd hate to think that I might have EATEN something caught in that lake.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-23-2002, 03:01 PM:
Bruce drink some more Film Guard it will take care of any problems
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 02-25-2002, 08:55 AM:
Gordon:I've slacked-off on my drinking. I'm already embalmed. Now if I can only reach the 'return' button...
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 02-25-2002, 12:09 PM:
I wasn't aware that Film-Guard was approved for Embalming. Come to think of it there is a familiar odor to Film-Guard. Perhaps I should push Brad for 55 gallon drum sizes that I can push(er, I mean place) to my local morturaries.
Mark @ New GTS
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-25-2002, 05:37 PM:
Hey, with all of the cremation technical information on this thread, maybe its time for a video.....Joe Redifer style 
!
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-25-2002, 07:34 PM:
Knock it off you guy's are making me hungry!
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-25-2002, 07:47 PM:
Hey Bob,the retort could double as a pizza oven? yum yum!
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 02-25-2002, 08:08 PM:
Will,there used to be this Pizza joint out here that got shut down because someone was " cremated " in the pizza oven. Apparently, the victim was murdered and they were trying to get rid of it by frying up the corpse.
Boy, the jokes about that one lasted years.
Rumor has it that that oven is still in use at a downtown Pizzeria.
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-25-2002, 08:18 PM:
I really do not care for pizza but I could go for one of 
hampster's right now... or maybe 
's cat. Yummy
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-26-2002, 10:53 AM:
Bob...I can't speak for hamsters, but do you have any idea what cats eat? In the last month alone mine has dragged in the gnawed remains of a rat and a squirrel (whilst ignoring the nice tinned stuff I buy him - far too civilised for his liking). If you're serious about passing that sort of stuff any further down the food chain in your direction you've got a stronger stomach than me!
Posted by Christopher Santapaola (Member # 1015) on 02-26-2002, 10:57 AM:
Stop threatening 's Sprocket shes a good hampster. Now as for her doggie Maxi thats a different story you can feel free.
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 02-26-2002, 11:45 AM:
Tis all in gest that I put everyone on. I am strickly meat and potato's. Steak is the only meat I eat. I hate fish and seafood of any kind. If I didn't have to eat to survive - I wouldn't. However, before I eat anything I have two ice cold Beefeater Gin Gibson's straight up. Shaken not stirred ... and these I am not willing to give up.
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 02-27-2002, 05:39 PM:
So here is the script for the "Cremation Done Wrong" video ~ Joe Redifer style YAHOO!Joe gets zapped by the rectifier caps = someone getting burned when igniting retort w/door open...
Joe eating greasy food at the rewind bench = the retort doubling as a pizza oven...
Joe dropping the print = someone dropping the cremains...
Joe cleaning the carpet with a PTR = someone cleaning up the cremains with a PTR...
sick, Sick, SICK !
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 03-07-2002, 10:14 AM:
I guess that you guys have heard the latest....The oven was tested by its manufacturer, and found to work perfectly. Some people just hate to run up the utility bills!
The lake is slowly going down...
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