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Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 03-14-2002, 02:03 PM:
 
I guess every one of us has been unduly annoyed by telemarketers. But occasionally, I can have l little fun with them

Yesterday one of the local major funeral homes called soliciting business and asked for my father. I explained to them that they were over 10 years too late and that I was not in the business of stacking bodies like the crematorium in Georgia! ya, they were a little embarrassed!
 


Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 03-14-2002, 02:34 PM:
 
I got a call from someone selling life insurance, and they mentioned dismemberment as something they covered. This immediately reminded me of "Evil Dead II" where the guy's own hand starts attacking him so he cuts it off with a chainsaw, so I started talking like the character in that movie and said that had just happened to me! She just said "Well, I don't think it covers anything self-inflicted."
 
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 03-14-2002, 02:40 PM:
 
Tell them you are busy at the moment, & you will ring them at home later.


 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 03-14-2002, 03:43 PM:
 
The last time I had a telemarketer on the line, I told them I wasn't going to do business with them unless they sent a couple of dancin' girls over to my house.

The call lasted about 30 seconds, total. Since that day I haven't had one call from any other telemarketers. I wonder if they have a "crackpot list"? I imagine that if they do, I would have made the list.
 


Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 03-14-2002, 04:42 PM:
 
Jese:

If a life insurance telemarketer calls me, maybe I can introduce myself as "Jack The Ripper" and ask if they cover DISEMBOWELMENT !
 


Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-14-2002, 06:03 PM:
 
I'm usually not rude at all to telemarketers, knowing that it is a terrible job. I tried it out for a short stint when I was going to art school in New York. I quit after only a couple months. Given the choice, I think I'd rather scrub toilets than call up people during dinnertime.

Basically, I immediately interrupt and say, "I'm sorry, I'm not interested, I don't respond to telephone solicitation, please remove me from your calling list." They can get onto their next call quickly.

Now, if the telemarketer refuses to get the polite message and wants to push it, I can really screw them up. I don't get rude. I just let them yammer away for several minutes thinking they are going to close a sale on me. Then I back out, say "not interested" and hang up. All of those telemarketers are working against a clock and they don't make squat for commission unless they register so many sales an hour. I wind up costing THEM money.

The last time I had some really good fun with a telemarketer was not long after I was given a bogus, fake, shakedown ticket by the Lawton Police Department. A cop claimed I ran a stop sign, even though I sat there letting cars pass by. He pulled me over just so he could train his rookie partner on writing tickets. The lesson cost me $80. And the court said "its just your word against the cop's word."

Anyway, the police department fund-raiser people call me up and ask for donations. I replied, "your donation is at the Comanche County Courthouse, thanks to one of your cops shaking me down for a bogus stop sign ticket." The caller said, "we don't set the fine limits, the county does." To which I replied, "but you do have the latitude to let me off with a warning. As I said, the courthouse has your donation. And I suspect you got my name on your calling list from my traffic ticket, so do me a favor and take my name off your calling list."
 


Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 03-14-2002, 06:11 PM:
 
All telemarketing calls we get at GTS get transfered to the Copy Department!!
Mark @ GTS
 
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 03-14-2002, 07:21 PM:
 
Telemarketer Repellant

If they say they're John Doe from XYZ Company, ask them to spell their name. Then ask them to spell the company name. Then ask them where it is located, how long it has been in business, how many people work there, how they got into this line of work, if they are married, how many kids they have, etc. Continue asking them personal questions or questions about their company for as long as necessary.

Say "no" over and over. Be sure to vary the sound of each one, and keep a rhythmic tempo, even as they are trying to speak. This is most fun if you can do it until they hang up.

If MCI calls trying to get you to sign up for the Family and Friends Plan, reply, in as sinister a voice as you can, "I don't have any friends, would you be my friend?"

If they start out with, "How are you today?" say, "I'm so glad you asked, because no one these days seems to care, and I have all these problems. My arthritis is acting up, my eyelashes are sore, my dog has the gout..."

If the company cleans rugs, respond: "Can you get out blood? Can you get out goat blood? How about human blood?"

Tell the telemarketer you are busy at the moment and ask him/her if he/she will give you his/her home phone number so you can call him/her back. When the telemarketer explains that telemarketers cannot give out their home numbers say, "I guess you don't want anyone bothering you at home, right?" The telemarketer will agree and you say, "Me either!" Hang up.

Ask them to repeat everything they say several times.

Insist that the caller is really your buddy Leon, playing a joke. "Come on, Leon, cut it out! Seriously, Leon, how's your momma?"

Tell them you are hard of hearing and that they need to speak up . . . louder . . . louder . . .

My Goodness I think I'm in the wrong forum

When the salesperson asks, "Is this the homeowner?" say, "Is this the salesperson?" and when they say, "Yes," hang up. Telemarketer Repellant
If they say they're John Doe from XYZ Company, ask them to spell their name. Then ask them to spell the company name. Then ask them where it is located, how long it has been in business, how many people work there, how they got into this line of work, if they are married, how many kids they have, etc. Continue asking them personal questions or questions about their company for as long as necessary.

Say "no" over and over. Be sure to vary the sound of each one, and keep a rhythmic tempo, even as they are trying to speak. This is most fun if you can do it until they hang up.

If MCI calls trying to get you to sign up for the Family and Friends Plan, reply, in as sinister a voice as you can, "I don't have any friends, would you be my friend?"

If they start out with, "How are you today?" say, "I'm so glad you asked, because no one these days seems to care, and I have all these problems. My arthritis is acting up, my eyelashes are sore, my dog has the gout..."

If the company cleans rugs, respond: "Can you get out blood? Can you get out goat blood? How about human blood?"

Tell the telemarketer you are busy at the moment and ask him/her if he/she will give you his/her home phone number so you can call him/her back. When the telemarketer explains that telemarketers cannot give out their home numbers say, "I guess you don't want anyone bothering you at home, right?" The telemarketer will agree and you say, "Me either!" Hang up.

Ask them to repeat everything they say several times.

Insist that the caller is really your buddy Leon, playing a joke. "Come on, Leon, cut it out! Seriously, Leon, how's your momma?"

Tell them you are hard of hearing and that they need to speak up . . . louder . . . louder . . .

When the salesperson asks, "Is this the homeowner?" say, "Is this the salesperson?" and when they say, "Yes," hang up.
Telemarketer Repellant
If they say they're John Doe from XYZ Company, ask them to spell their name. Then ask them to spell the company name. Then ask them where it is located, how long it has been in business, how many people work there, how they got into this line of work, if they are married, how many kids they have, etc. Continue asking them personal questions or questions about their company for as long as necessary.

Say "no" over and over. Be sure to vary the sound of each one, and keep a rhythmic tempo, even as they are trying to speak. This is most fun if you can do it until they hang up.

If MCI calls trying to get you to sign up for the Family and Friends Plan, reply, in as sinister a voice as you can, "I don't have any friends, would you be my friend?"

If they start out with, "How are you today?" say, "I'm so glad you asked, because no one these days seems to care, and I have all these problems. My arthritis is acting up, my eyelashes are sore, my dog has the gout..."

If the company cleans rugs, respond: "Can you get out blood? Can you get out goat blood? How about human blood?"

Tell the telemarketer you are busy at the moment and ask him/her if he/she will give you his/her home phone number so you can call him/her back. When the telemarketer explains that telemarketers cannot give out their home numbers say, "I guess you don't want anyone bothering you at home, right?" The telemarketer will agree and you say, "Me either!" Hang up.

Ask them to repeat everything they say several times.

Insist that the caller is really your buddy Leon, playing a joke. "Come on, Leon, cut it out! Seriously, Leon, how's your momma?"

Tell them you are hard of hearing and that they need to speak up . . . louder . . . louder . . .

When the salesperson asks, "Is this the homeowner?" say, "Is this the salesperson?" and when they say, "Yes," hang up. Oh! Well...

Ut Oh..I think I'm in the wrong forum


 


Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 03-14-2002, 07:58 PM:
 
Here's how Jay Donaldson handles those pesky telemarketers: These are REAL calls to Jay from various phone spammers...
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/299/jay_donaldson.html

Enjoy!

-Aaron
 


Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 4594) on 03-14-2002, 11:21 PM:
 
Bob, as for your post...I used to work for Sears as a bill collector. They actually train you on how to avoid most everything you just posted. Sorry!


 


Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 03-14-2002, 11:50 PM:
 
No, Randy. I think I made the crackpot list before you did.

If my caller ID comes up as an unknown or number not available, I pick up the phone and say,

"Thank you for calling Dial An Asshole. All of our assholes are currently assisting other assholes. If you are inquiring about our free monthly news letter, The Anal Retentive, please leave your name and phone number at the beep, and the first available asshole will return your call promptly. Have a shitty day."

It works....


 


Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 03-15-2002, 02:17 AM:
 
Forget telemarketers it's the knock on the door God squad that gets my goat.

Most of our local Jehovah's Witnesses have learnt to avoid our home since we invited two of them in and gave them a 90 minute lecture on "our" beliefs!
 


Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-15-2002, 02:43 AM:
 
How about just screaming "Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!" into the phone and hanging up? I bet Sears didn't train anybody for that. Sears or whoever also don't seem to be able to train people how to pronounce last names. Even simple last names get messed up.
 
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 03-15-2002, 04:39 AM:
 
That's sad that companies like Sears actually develop methods to teach their phone people on how to get around with the people that try and make asses out of telemarketers.

I wonder if Joe's method will work?


 


Posted by Frank Rapisardi (Member # 435) on 03-15-2002, 09:23 AM:
 
When I get these calls' I always reply,"Let me think about it." "Give me your home phone number and I'll call you later." They usually say something like " I really don't want to be bothered at home." I say'Guess what neither do I ." CLICK!

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Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 03-15-2002, 03:10 PM:
 
During the past three or four months, I began giving the telemarketers the "8" treatment.

Use the "8" button on the phone to generate a loud tone that the caller cannot hear or talk over.

If the caller is an "unknown name/number" and you pick up the phone and there is a long pause or you hear what sounds like busy people in the background, hit the "8" button and hold it until they hang up. Often, they think something is wrong with their equipment and think something went wrong. I don't get as many of those types of calls since I started doing that. For those telemarketers who use headsets, I'll bet it hurts their ears, too, which is a plus.


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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site


 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-15-2002, 03:16 PM:
 
Now that one I like, Evans. One question though, why the number 8? Is there any significance to the specific tone produced by that number?
 
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 03-15-2002, 03:35 PM:
 
Bob,

Your response is great, but "The Weenie Man's" is a sure classic! But many times when I answer the telephone, I usually answer with something like "City Morgue-you stab em, we slab em" or something like this--sure throws people off, especially if it is a ligit business call

Dick

About Jehovash's Witnesses-you'll love this one. One day, a pack of them came to our front door and my Dad answered. To his astonishment, they had their kids with them, and yes, it was a school day. Naturally my Dad lectured them prior to slamming the door in their faces. But no, they did not relent and rang the doorbell again. So how did my Dad get the message across that he was not interested? Threatened to sic our puppy on them if they did not get off the property within 30 seconds ! Yes, this did work !

About Jehovah's Witnesses and the "inside Jewish joke" in "Monty Python's Life Of Brian"...

Basically, many things were lost when the Second Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, among them the Ark of the Covenant and the corrrect spelling and pronounciation of God's name. In any case, the spelling of God's name in Hebrew is not pronouncable, so out of respect, acronyms are used. In Judiasm, it is deemed VERY disrespectable to try and pronounance His name. So, what is Jehovah? Yes, it is a VERY disrespectable attempt at pronouncing His name in Hebrew! Hence, that little skit in "The Life of Brian".
 


Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 03-15-2002, 05:05 PM:
 
quote:
Will Kutler -- I usually answer with something like "City Morgue-you stab em, we slab em" or something like this--sure throws people off, especially if it is a ligit business call

"Bill's Donkeys... Which ass do you want to talk to?"

Paul: Laughing at everything they say works pretty well, too. When they ask what's so funny, just say, "Oh, nothing..." and keep right on going as if nothing's wrong.


 


Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 03-15-2002, 06:06 PM:
 
If someone else is at home, have them get on the extension and sound like a crabby old wife- "Harold, who are you talking to? Come to bed right now!"
 
Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 4594) on 03-17-2002, 02:26 AM:
 
Will, I think I've called you!
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 03-17-2002, 04:19 PM:
 
quote:
Now that one I like, Evans. One question though, why the number 8? Is there any significance to the specific tone produced by that number?

That particular tone just seems to work well. Remember, all "phone tones" are actually two tones put together. There are four rows and four columns, so there are 8 different tones, one for each row and column, and each button produces the tone for its row and the tone for its column played together. Most if not all consumer phones only have three columns and are not capable of generating the fourth column of tones.

Evans

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site
 


Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 03-19-2002, 11:36 PM:
 
Randy said:

"Bill's Donkeys... Which ass do you want to talk to?"

Randy, I'll have to try that one.


 


Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 03-20-2002, 11:45 AM:
 
I'm home last night and my phone rings.

"May I speak with a C. Everett?"

"I'm cooking dinner right now."

"Oh, I'll try again some other time."

"May I ask who is calling?"

"This is so-and-so and I'm calling on behalf of VoiceStream Wireless ..."

I immediately press the 8 button and hold it down. Two seconds later -- CLICK!


 


Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 03-21-2002, 10:53 AM:
 
quote:
I immediately press the 8 button and hold it down. Two seconds later -- CLICK!


Maybe I should start charging royalties for use of that trick!

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Evans A Criswell
Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site
 


Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 03-21-2002, 11:51 AM:
 
At my day job we used to tell them that "You'll need to speak to George about that. He will be back in five minutes, please call back." We'd make sure the original person didn't answer the phone for the next few minutes. Then when they would call back and ask for George, we'd insist "There's no George here, you must have the wrong number." It didn't stop the calls, but made it more fun, and for a long time we got calls asking for George.
 
Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 03-21-2002, 01:55 PM:
 
Paul,

All you have to do is pick up the phone and say, "Hello! Weenie Man!", in your best Andy Kaufman (Ladka) voice.

That will pretty much guarantee the next sound you'll hear will be, "Klik!"
 


Posted by Jesse Skeen (Member # 586) on 03-21-2002, 06:30 PM:
 
I always thought it would be fun to answer "Pee-Wee's Playhouse, Pee-Wee speaking!" but I'd have to already know who was calling to actually do that (don't have caller ID).
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 03-21-2002, 06:36 PM:
 
at home if the called ID displayed ID unavaliable or ID blocked they got live the following message beep(pitch depending on whether wine/martinis/ or beer had been consumed) and this message "mels crematorium you kill them we grill them can we help you"
usually there was just "CLICK"
 
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 05-21-2002, 07:01 AM:
 
Yesterday afternoon I'm away from my desk at work. Get back and I hear a sales pitch on my speakerphone. I pick up the line, press the 8 button and hold it down. Two seconds later -- CLICK!


 


Posted by Bill Hallsworth (Member # 1240) on 05-21-2002, 08:41 AM:
 
To really annoy someone, play their game. Just say something like "Incest Insurance Company...would you be interested in trying our low-premium, full family insurance policy? We provide medical, dental, and auto insurance for every member of the family, for just $9.95 a month..." Usually at this point, you hear a click.

I'll have to try the 8 thing, see how that works.

Bill
 


Posted by Jacob Huber (Member # 1138) on 05-22-2002, 12:07 AM:
 
I think the absolute worst one I've used on somebody is "Pete's Abortion Clinic, you rape 'em, we scrape 'em." Even though it sounds fake, they don't want to talk to the guy so f*cked up to say it.
 
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 05-22-2002, 12:52 AM:
 
A variation I've [over]heard:

"___________ Morgue. You stab 'em, we slab 'em. You rape 'em, we scrape 'em - no fetus can beat us!"

(Fill in the blank with the name of a nearby redneck-type town!)
 


Posted by Michael Gonzalez (Member # 593) on 05-22-2002, 04:02 PM:
 
Does anyone have one of those boxes from Radio Shack and does it really work? I am just curious? I do not have a home phone just a cell phone so I don't get too many telemarketers calling but when I do I get really pissed. I believe that it is illegal for a telemarketer to knowlingly call a cell phone. So if you get a telemarketing call, even at home, you can tell them that they are calling a cell phone and are breaking the law.
 
Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 05-25-2002, 10:51 AM:
 
Had another one at home the other night. This time it was soliciting newspaper subscriptions.

I pressed 8 and held it down for about five seconds. The line was still open.

Again I pressed 8 and held it down. Three or four seconds later -- CLICK!
 


Posted by Adam Wilbert (Member # 1184) on 05-25-2002, 11:25 AM:
 
I saw a review on a technology show the other day for the "TeleZapper". Its a little box that you plug into your phone line that generates a pulse tone every time you pick up the phone. This is the same tone that is generated by the phone company when the line has been disconnected. The majority of telemarketers using computers to dial calls will hear this tone, think its a disconnected line, and delete your number from their phonebook! They gave it really positive reviews saying that the number of calls they recieved dramatically decreased after having it plugged in for about a month.
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-25-2002, 02:54 PM:
 
Now if they would only come up with a program that sends a "no such email address" back to the spammers so they will drop me from their lists.....

>>> Phil

 
Posted by Jerry Chase (Member # 660) on 05-25-2002, 03:30 PM:
 
"Now if they would only come up with a program that sends a "no such email address" back to the spammers "

There is. It doesn't work that well. Webwasher or one of the antispam program bounces the mail back the way a bad address would. The problem is that spammers use a dummy email address, so the bounce never gets to the intended destination. Periodically one of my autresponders will respond to spam. It'll get a bounce back every time because the sending address is faked.

 


Posted by Charles Everett (Member # 889) on 06-27-2002, 07:15 PM:
 
These creeps no longer hang up whenever I hold down the magic "8" button.

No matter how hard I try, no matter how long it takes, they stay on the line!

Got any new ways to get rid of these lowlifes?
 


Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 06-27-2002, 07:19 PM:
 
Start moaning and panting more and more as they talk.

Say things like "yes, oh hell yes!" using your best "bedroom voice."

This may take a while, but it ALWAYS brings a deathly silence on the other end of the line.

To keep in practice, I sometimes do this while talking to friends.
 


Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-27-2002, 08:58 PM:
 
Telemarketers work based on sales per hour. They have a certain quota they have to meet. Next time you could try this, listen to them for 30 seconds or so, just enough to figure out the basics of what they are selling. Then tell them how interesting and wonderful that sounds, but cut yourself off mid-sentence and say "oh wait a minute, there's someone at the door. Don't hang up, I'll be right back."

Then press HOLD or put the phone down and see how long they wait.
That won't necessarily get you off of their calling list, but at least you are passing back more aggravation than they are calling you.


 


Posted by Thomas Procyk (Member # 1170) on 06-27-2002, 09:10 PM:
 
Charles -- Try holding down the "9" instead. Maybe they are used to the tone of the "8" by now and have adapted to it.

What I do is try to have a nice conversation with the person. The other day, they started their whole spiel, and I said, "Before you try to sell me something, I think you should know that even if I want it, I have no money to buy it." --moment of silence, then laughter.-- I explained to the lady that I am a starving college student living off of Ramen noodles because I frivolously spent all my money in high school. We had a nice chat about school and how when the operator went to college... a good 15-20 minutes!

=TMP=
 


Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 06-28-2002, 01:02 PM:
 
Screwing with them is definitely funny. But as far as the 8 thing, if they don't hang up, why not just say "I'm not interested" and hang up on them? Why force them to hang up?

And if you have Caller ID and the number doesn't show up, why would you even answer the phone? They won't leave messages, so just let the answering machine get it.
 


Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 06-28-2002, 09:10 PM:
 
Telemarketers are heros:
Link
 
Posted by Kyle Caudill (Member # 1252) on 06-28-2002, 10:08 PM:
 
I had a telemarketer call once and my roommate answered. They asked for the wife of Mr. Kyle Caudill. Well my roommate said he just got divorced from his wife and I am now his live in lover. My roommate was male. The guy on the phone just stumbled for a few minutes and so no he was sorry for bothering us.
 
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 01-30-2003, 11:41 AM:
 
I decided to not start a new topic on this subject.

This morning I was awaken by a telemarketer who was instantly told 'do not call me, do not call me.' Within 5 minutes, I was called back again by another marketer selling something else. Again, I said do not call me--twice. Over the next 2 hours, I got a total of 12 calls. I suspect that all of them came from the same center, as they all sounded the same when I answered the phone... a moment of silence, then the sound of a room full of people, then incessant yammering that only stopped when he/she took a breath.

I called the phone company. I reminded them that I have a feature on my phone called 'anonymous call rejection' and was told that this does not include telemarketers. "Your lawmakers have made it possible for telemarketers to lawfully call you and bypass any systems you have in place to stop them." Also, for an added charge, I can stop the telemarketers. My reply was that I feel that by paying an 'anonymous call rejection' charge, I should not have to deal with this crap. They told me that there is nothing that I can do. While on the phone with Ma Bell, I had 5 call-waiting beeps. The ID said that they were all 'unknown name/unknown numbers, and 'out of area' calls.

I am fed up with this. I had my puter set-up so that if a call came in, the puter would let me know who was there. I disconnected it after the first day. Nothing but sales calls.

They should all ROT IN HELL.

Anybody else on the forum feel this way?

And now, back to rational thinking. [Big Grin] Bruce
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 01-30-2003, 01:27 PM:
 
I solved the telemarketing problem, at least temporarily.

About a month ago, I changed phone companies and got a new phone number. I now have my cable modem, cable TV, and telephone all through the same company. When asked if I wanted to keep my same telephone number, I told them "NO!". 95 percent of my calls used to be telemarketers. For this reason, I gave BellSouth the boot.

I have not received a single telemarketing call since I got the new number. It's important to not have a forwarding message on the old number directing to the new number.

One friend I have changes his phone number once a year. A good time to do it is immediately after the new phone books are published.

If only there was a way to make terrorists do something good, like go after telemarketers or other people that actually make their living by annoying people. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ron Lacheur (Member # 1126) on 01-30-2003, 01:56 PM:
 
Lately I've been getting harassed by next generation in telemarketers...." tele-surveys ". They call and say it will only be a 5 minute call, then they proceed to ask questions for 20+ minutes about which studios I purchase DVD's from the most.
 
Posted by Barry Martin (Member # 1376) on 01-30-2003, 02:24 PM:
 
I signed up for the MA state "do not call" list which so far is looking pretty good. Of course, the day before the list went in to effect some company called "Orca Glass" or something along that line calls me up and just asks if my windshield is cracked or chipped. I had to stop and think for a minute because I didn't actually believe this to be a telemarketing call (someone found my car somewhere, etc.) When I said I have no idea, my car is dead at my mother's house in the next town over they just said "Oh, okay, goodbye." [Confused] Now I see that the telemarketers are fighting the "do not call" list calling it unconstitutional. [Roll Eyes] What about my right to enjoy a good meal without being interrupted 3 or 4 times. Or to relax after a long days work or better yet a day spent as a good consumer going out and purchasing products and services (most instances the same people that call) and just want to kick back when I get home. [Mad] I can't say I, or anyone I know, has ever bought anything when called, at least that they were not planning on buying already. Emails are a different issue, I occasionaly purchase from email ads but those are ads I requested to be informed about. I never asked Orca to call me up and ask how my car was doing. [fu]
 
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 01-30-2003, 07:54 PM:
 
This telemarketer crap has really gotten bad in the last 2-3 years. It got really old during the recent elections. I've had my phone number since 1959 and have never seen shit like this.
 
Posted by Nate Lehrke (Member # 1460) on 01-30-2003, 09:49 PM:
 
I used to work with a guy that was a Telemarketer, whenever someone would try any "funny business", like all the above suggestions, he would have all his friends/co-workers call that person again throughout that day all using different insurance company names. All in all the unfortunate guy would end up geting called 10-15 times,all from a different named insurance company that day!

Luckily now, most telemarketer’s don’t ever see the phone number they are calling, so they can't pull things like that.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-30-2003, 11:36 PM:
 
People must buy stuff from the damn telemarketers, or else they would be out of business. Can't figure it out though....I have never talked to anyone who's ever bought anything from one.
 
Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 01-31-2003, 10:06 AM:
 
quote:
I've had my phone number since 1959 and have never seen shit like this.
There is no advantage to having the same phone number for long periods of time anymore. The telephone system is not the same as it was in the 50s through the early 80s. In the mid to late 80s, telemarketers started calling. Around 1996, the problem got much worse. The telephone became a service we pay for to receive unwanted ads.

Last month, as I said before, I adjusted some things. I'm now paying much less for a telephone service on which I haven't received any telemarketing calls. I got a new number without leaving a message on the old one. As soon as I start receiving telemarketing calls again on a frequent basis, I'll change my number after the next telephone directory is published. It's relatively easy to email all my friends and tell them I got a new phone number.

If it costs some amount of money to change the number, it will be worth it if it removes a source of irritation from my daily life.

This has worked far better than the "8" treatment.

Evans
 
Posted by John Spooner (Member # 1565) on 01-31-2003, 11:45 AM:
 
Dear Bruce.
In your post you state you have had the same no. since 1959.
This would tend to indicate your age as advanced.
How do you keep your youthful appearance as shown in your photo?
Regards. John Spooner. South australia.
 
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 01-31-2003, 12:21 PM:
 
John Spooner asked: "How do you keep your youthful appearance as shown in your photo?"

Look at the photo of Bruce again, and you'll see the answer: FilmGuard! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-31-2003, 12:29 PM:
 
And people ask me all the time how I can be as old as I am too. Only you and I are believers, Bruce. [Wink]
 
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 01-31-2003, 12:56 PM:
 
Anonomous Call Rejection only works with calls that specificly block your caller id (protected calls), it does not work on calls that your phone company thinks are "out of area", ie, no caller id. This is because of Federal Regulations that make no sense to me.

Prior to getting laid off last April, I did computer work for a collection agency. They, like tele-marketers, use predictive dialers. What these dialers do is go though lists of phone numbers, dialing away, until they get a human being on the line. They then transfer the call to an available operator, along with a computer screen full of information. The silence is the time it takes between when the dialer figures out that a human has answered and the time it takes to find an available operator and transfer the call. The moment I get silence, I hang up.

I have all but eliminated unwanted calls by:

/Mitchell
 
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 01-31-2003, 06:40 PM:
 
I should have said that my FAMILY has had this phone number since 1959. I bought my house from my grandfathers estate in 1985. I like having the number. Easy to remember....

Sorry for the confusion, funny as it is....
 
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 01-31-2003, 06:45 PM:
 
So we'll never know if FilmGuard really is the secret. [Confused]

BTW, I get less than one telemarketing call per year. Usually from credit card companies. Since I get so few calls I like to ask them weird questions. Usually I try to get them to convince me why I should stop paying cash for everything.
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 02-03-2003, 02:05 AM:
 
I find that the answer is to screen calls using my answering machine. Telemarketers seem to be trained not to leave messages, as none ever has on mine. So I look at the incoming number as the 'phone rings and if it's withheld, listen to the machine. If the caller starts to leave a message and is legitimate, then at that point I pick up.

As yet, they don't seem to call mobile 'phones at all in this country. This might be because of the sheer cost of calling them, but it can only be a matter of time before the telemarketers do a deal with the mobile 'phone providers to make outgoing calls en masse at reduced prices. Another reason could be that people tend to change their mobile 'phone numbers far more frequently than fixed line numbers (possibly because, as I discovered last week, it costs £75 to move your old number across to a new contract), and the networks are afraid that if one of them gets a reputation for allowing telemarketers to pester their customers, the customers will take their business elsewhere.
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 02-03-2003, 05:32 AM:
 
quote:
As soon as I start receiving telemarketing calls again on a frequent basis, I'll change my number
The problem I've found with this, Evans, (as I've moved numerous times, getting new phone numbers along the way) is the number you get is likely already on telemarketer lists. We keep getting them here, asking for the lady who had the number before we did.

Mike brought up the point that I've always wondered about. HOW can these outfits make enough sales to remain in business?! They're disliked with a passion in all walks of life. You would think even the little ol' ladies would've wised-up by now and ceased to buy from them. If the tactic never worked, it follows they would eventually fade into obscurity.

Same with the contrived "info-mercials". [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 02-03-2003, 06:03 AM:
 
The telemarketers who really irk me are the "placement firms" who somehow manage to get my work phone number and then call me at work and ask if I'm looking for a job. That just feels really tacky and inappropriate to me, especially since there are few legitimate ways in which they could have gotten my work phone number. Do they really expect people to say "yes, I hate my job and am actively searching for a new one" while sitting among co-workers? (especially since I enjoy my "real" job and have no intention of leaving!)

I also dislike the vendors who call me at work who clearly have gotten my phone number from the InterNIC "whois" database, which is a listing of contacts for domain names and IP address space. It's an important resource for getting in touch with people to solve technical problems and reduce network abuse; it is explicitly not for commercial use. Unfortunately, some salesweasels don't read the notice to this effect that is returned with every whois query. This is a source of a fair amount of email spam, too. Needless to say, I don't do business with spammers or anyone who uses the whois database for sales leads.
 
Posted by Barry Martin (Member # 1376) on 02-03-2003, 10:22 AM:
 
Leo, I think I recall hearing that (at least over here) it is illegal to call cellular numbers for telemarketing because the cell customer is paying for that call. It's not like your home line where you bill is the same whether someone calls you or not. I have yet to decide on a cellular provider so I can't speak from experience, just what I've heard. My favorite calls still remain the ones where the computer picks up and either presents me with 10 seconds of silence (plenty of time to hang up) or asks me to please be patient, an operator will be with me shortly. Um, yeah, you called ME and interrupted what I was doing and now you want ME to wait? Don't think so.... [fu]
 
Posted by John Lasher (Member # 968) on 12-31-2003, 02:58 AM:
 
Me> Hello?

Telemarketer> Hi, this is Brian from the Cable Company. How are you?

Me> Oh, I've just been miserable lately. I feel like I'm mired in quicksand and the harder I struggle, the more it sucks me down. What's the point, really? One day you wake up and realize that the only thing that's really wrong with your life.. is you! I mean, if you examine it, everything that you are not happy about in your life, is really, directly or indirectly, YOUR FAULT. You lie awake at night staring at the ceiling wondering "Where did I go wrong?" and then you remember about 50 or 60 places where you went wrong! Then you blink and the clock goes from 3:07 AM to 8:15 and it's time to get up and get ready for work. You go to work so tired you can barely feel your tounge in your mouth, every day you wonder "Is this the day when they'll finally realize what a screw up I am and fire me?" and every day you're just miserable and feel like you're struggling so hard just to stay exactly where you are, sort of a one-step-forward-and-two-steps-backwards, if-attitudes-are-contagious-mine-could-kill-you life. I am convinced that I am going to die at 35, still living with my parents and a mountain of debt. How are you?.... Hello.... Hello?

(One day I just asked myself, "Why do I lie to telemarketers?")
 
Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 12-31-2003, 07:20 AM:
 
Is it just me, or, since the 'do not call' list went into effect, has your telemarketing activity gone to almost nothing?

I was getting them constantly, and now nothing.

Now, if I can ONLY get rid of all of those email that I get from Britney Spears offering me Viagra!

Anybody that knows me knows that I dont need it. Well, not quite everybody... [Smile]
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 01-01-2004, 09:55 PM:
 
Bruce! [Big Grin] I hear ya! And, yes, the calls are practically nil now.
 




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