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Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-20-2002, 12:18 AM:
Can anyone identify what this lamp is? The only identification is the voltage of 6.3, and a "14". I tried to find something on it so I could order some, but for some reason I cannot get on Chicago Miniature's website. This is a meter panel light from an Audio Technica Mixing Console, and Audio Technica says the lamps are no longer available via their company. So, they sent me 4 new meters for 2 bucks each! Now that was a good deal. But there is nothing wrong with the old meters, other than the lamps are burned out. 
Posted by Ken Layton (Member # 133) on 06-20-2002, 06:43 PM:
Looks like an automotive dome "fuse-lamp". I've seen these also used on dollar bill acceptors on vending machines.
Try the helpful folks at www.topbulb.com
Posted by Gordon Bachlund (Member # 124) on 06-20-2002, 06:46 PM:
Try www.bulbdirect.com. I have had great success getting oddball threading lamps, exciter lamps, etc., from them. 
Posted by Ken Lackner (Member # 1002) on 06-20-2002, 07:49 PM:
FWIW, I don't think it's the exact same lamp, but it looks very much similar to the Kinoton framing lamps. Does it plug into a socket similar to the way a glass tube fuse does?
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-20-2002, 09:23 PM:
Ken, yes it does. Here is the actual application:
Posted by Gerard S. Cohen (Member # 994) on 06-20-2002, 09:45 PM:
Looks just like the ceiling dome light on the older VW Beetles
that used a 6V storage battery. You might try an auto parts store or the J.C.Whitney (Chicago) CO., which has a Beetle catalog free.
The socket wasn't like that for clip-in tube fuses, but had two
cone-shaped brass spring clips that held the pointed ends.
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-20-2002, 09:55 PM:
Gerard, I saw one of those.....but it didn't look like it would fit correctly. So I sent a pic to Brad to show how the socket holds the bulb.
Posted by Gordon Bachlund (Member # 124) on 06-21-2002, 10:44 AM:
It certainly looks like a Kinoton framing lamp. If so, Bulbs Direct can supply them. I bought six last year.
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-21-2002, 03:03 PM:
Gordon, the picture is posted about how the lamp mounts in the meter. Is this the same as Kinoton's method of mounting their framing lamp?
Posted by Bernard Tonks (Member # 809) on 06-22-2002, 06:08 AM:
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Looks just like the ceiling dome light on the older VW Beetles
that used a 6V storage battery. You might try an auto parts store or the J.C.Whitney (Chicago) CO., which has a Beetle catalog free.
The socket wasn't like that for clip-in tube fuses, but had two
cone-shaped brass spring clips that held the pointed ends.
The PPM meters in my television working days used the same bulb fitting clips that Gerard described, so maybe they are multi-purpose!
Think I would be inclined to try and replace with a bright white LED mini type bulb.
Posted by Gordon Bachlund (Member # 124) on 06-22-2002, 11:26 AM:
Paul, while the panel meter lamp looks a lot like a Kinoton framing lamp, the mounting is not the same. The framing lamp mounts to a "fuse holder" sort of device, a phenolic base with two spring clips into which the lamp is pressed like a glass fuse. However, the lamps I got from Bulb Direct do have the "pointy" ends, though not as pronounced as those on the lamp you photographed. E-mail me your address and I'll mail you one to try.
I agree with the practicality of replacing the incandescent lamp with an LED device, but for the life of me I can't think of where to find an LED replacement lamp in that shape.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 06-22-2002, 12:35 PM:
Simple make it
get a peice of the PCB perf board from radioshack that is the length of the lamp with the busses running the length and solder severl mini led's to it remember to add a current limiting resitor in serries and solder it inot the meter
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 06-22-2002, 12:45 PM:
I want to keep these meters as orginal as possible. I don't think Audio Technica has any more. The console I have is at least 20 years old.
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 06-22-2002, 01:55 PM:
Paul, I remember those bulbs being used in the meters on Tascam (a.k.a. trashcan) 4-track reel-to-reel recorders--we had one in the rack at the Caesars Palace Omnimax. Also I think the older Yamaha mix consoles (PM-2000) used those meter bulbs (soldered in). Just a thought as salvage sources...Paul
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 07-02-2002, 06:52 PM:
Gordon B, I picked up the bulb you sent. Unfortunately, the US Post Office ran over it with a steam roller, and it smashed the bulb to smithereens. Although there was enough of it there, it didn't look like it would fit in the meter very well. But I do want to thank you for your time and effort to help.
Much appreciated.
Paul
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 07-02-2002, 07:47 PM:
Gord is right, get several small white LED's and mount them inside the meter. Its the last time you'll ever have to go into it.
Mark @ GTS
Posted by Barry Hans (Member # 477) on 07-03-2002, 11:51 AM:
Paul,
It looks like an old Marantz bulb. The voltage is right. I have to dig around for where I got some replacements but I have it somewhere. Parts Express has some similar lamps but the voltage is off a bit.
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 07-03-2002, 01:52 PM:
Thanks, Barry. I think mine are 6 volts, but they powered from the phantom power supply which is 5 volts.