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Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 08-28-2002, 04:31 PM:
Ok,
How crazy would you think I was if I said that I was thinking about making a pedestal?
And before anybody says anything, yes I am aware of the weight involved.
I am still in the load calculation stage but I believe I can make a nice custom stand that will not weigh a ton and do it using various sizes of Square tubing and sheet metal. I want a four point that I can use to hold the amps and stuff as I like self-containment in my equipment.
Please don't think I am cheap or nuts but I like to make things and this will give me something to do.
If I decide to go along with this project then I will share photos if anyone is interested.
Anyway, that’s my latest project among others.
Has anybody else ever done this before?
Until next time.
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Samuel Hunter Sr.
Death to DLP (Video)
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 08-28-2002, 08:47 PM:
In the picture warehouse, someone built a combination pedistal and tower. Look under Glastonbury Festival, its quite interesting.Josh
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Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 08-28-2002, 09:26 PM:
At the old Skagit Drive-in in Burlington WA, the pedistals were made of concrete. It had a Western Electric post and lamp table. It worked....at least it didn't move until the theatre was torn down.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 08-28-2002, 09:33 PM:
Concrete!?
Damn, that’s carrying it a little far.
Being I will be moving in about 6-8 months I guess I better not schedule a cement truck just yet.
It’s too bad I can't weld aluminum or I would make my pedestal out of it.
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Samuel Hunter Sr.
Death to DLP (Video)
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 08-29-2002, 02:45 AM:
There have been some pretty lightweight & spindly pedestals made, I've never been fascinated enough to check the little ones.On the quickie DIY front, I envision something from cut up & drilled pieces of an industrial shelving kit. Legs of that drilled angle stuff, two sections per leg, overlap the sections as needed for length.
Posted by Jeff Stricker (Member # 224) on 08-29-2002, 11:40 AM:
Sam, here's a "portable" pedistal I cobbled from an old heavy-duty printer stand. 
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 08-29-2002, 12:04 PM:
Hey Jeff,
Man thats cool.
Hum maybe I need to do that. I was going to mount mine in the traditional manner.
Anyway, great shot!
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Samuel Hunter Sr.
Death to DLP (Video)
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 08-29-2002, 01:11 PM:
Jeff, I like your lamp table support. Kind of reminds me what I have seen at a theatre where an ORC XH-16S lamphouse is propped up with a 2x4 and a concrete block. That is a beautiful Motiograph and SH-1000 you have there.
Posted by Jeff Stricker (Member # 224) on 08-30-2002, 06:51 AM:
Thanks for the nice words guys! It does roll around pretty good. That's just a 350W homebrew quartz-halogen lamp. It serves the purpose for tinkering and short-throw experiments I do in my workshop/hamradio shack.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 08-30-2002, 09:41 PM:
I am thinking about using a 750 Lb engine stand. Its about the right height and has castors on it. Plus its ready made and all I have to do is weld a mounting plate onto it to mate up to the soundhead.
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Samuel Hunter Sr.
Death to DLP (Video)
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 08-31-2002, 01:20 PM:
At one time century had a awfull one that was a fileing cabnet filled with cementThe Slim jim rated only slightly better
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 08-31-2002, 02:44 PM:
Hey Gorden,
What was it called? The file 13 model?
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Samuel Hunter Sr.
Death to DLP (Video)
Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 08-31-2002, 05:34 PM:
The Century "heavy box" version was their marketing response to the Simplex box / slim jim pedestals on the market in the late 1970's. Since most of our sales are international, we find the further away from the U.S.A. the less desire for a console set-up.
Richard Fowler
TVP-Theatre & Video Products Inc. www.tvpmiami.com
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 08-31-2002, 06:34 PM:
I distinctly remember a couple of Simplex (possibly RCA) pedistals that were shortened (in height) by about 1.5 feet. Whether they were taylor-made for the application or stock, I don't really know.It looked like it came out of a scrap yard crusher of some sort. Those were in Ellensburg, Washington.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 09-03-2002, 01:42 PM:
Part one of my Pedestal project.
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Posted by Pete Naples (Member # 761) on 09-03-2002, 03:14 PM:
The guys in our workshop have shortened Westrex pedestals where necessary, there's one in the Manchester are that I had to get practically lie on the floor to align the 'A' chain on.There's another anomoly in the Lake District, basically they took the top of the pedestal, with the beam and adjusters etc, welded it to a huge gallows bracket and bolted the contraption, with Westar and Orcon lamp to the booth back wall! Has to be seen to be believed.
Good luck with the adapted engine stand Sam!
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 09-04-2002, 01:03 AM:
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Part one of my Pedestal project.
Excellent. Remember when you're running Bourne Identity to loosen the screw on the engine stand head & slowly rotate the projector to test the audience members for motion sickness sensitivity.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 09-04-2002, 08:43 AM:
Thats a good idea but I was going to chop the top collar off and raise the thing about 4 inches and weld a mounting plate on it.
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Posted by David Rigby (Member # 1301) on 09-04-2002, 11:45 AM:
On the subject of pedestals, I'm wanting to stick castors on the Vic 4 I recently acquired. Can I just use normal heavy duty castors or will they collapse under the weight? I could really use something with brakes too!David
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 09-04-2002, 12:19 PM:
Casters usually are rated for weight-bearing ability:
http://www.castershop.com/catalog.htm
http://triopines.com/capacity.htm
http://www.superior-components.com/p8.htm
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Posted by Bernard Tonks (Member # 809) on 09-04-2002, 06:45 PM:
The old Simplex stands were fairly lightweight and movable compared to many other projector pedestals. However one did collapse on me during a show, and nearly half of the picture finished up showing in the orchestra pit. This was with a Standard Simplex double shutter (front & rear) projector head, RCA 9031 soundhead, and a Peerless Magnarc. The top spoolbox was resting on the wall, the noise of the crash frightened the living daylights out of me. The Gaumont Kalee 21 base must surely be the heaviest made, known as Elephant’s Foot or The Queen Mary!David,
I used eight casters with brakes obtained from Radio Spares UK, for a Westrex double sided tower, which surely fully loaded must have been one hell of a weight, and there was never a problem.
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Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 09-05-2002, 12:52 AM:
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Thats a good idea but I was going to chop the top collar off
Okay, but don't forget to include *some* method for adjusting the projection angle. If you mounted it transversely, you could use the collar joint to go from drive-in to high-dive angles.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 09-05-2002, 08:42 AM:
If I need to change the angle I would just add shims between the bottom of the sound head and mounting plate. But I don't think I am going to need to do it but if I did that would be one way to do it.------------------
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Posted by Paul Turner (Member # 832) on 09-05-2002, 09:37 PM:
It seems like you've decided on the engine stand. However, I think a motorcycle lift might make a good, adjustable-height base. You have four points on the floor and it rolls. I used one to set my fully equiped sound rack in place. As i was scooting it out from under the mounted rack, I slid it next to my projector and had a "Woah, Look at that" momment. If it'll hold my 800# full dress Harley without a wiggle, it should be able to handle a projector, sound head, and lamp. M/C lifts run a little over a hundred bucks in most discount places.
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 09-06-2002, 08:37 AM:
Hey Paul,
My rig has four points as well and also has metal wheels on it so it will move. As far as adjustable height, that's not a problem. I am only going to use this for a short while until I move into my next place in a year or two then I will go whole hog and install a real four point pedestal, lamphouse, 6k reels or maybe a platter, sound system. Hell, I might even outdo Brads cinema .
By that time I will have found me an 68 Chevy C10 pickup I can rebuild so I will need my engine stand back.------------------
Samual Hunter Sr.
KC5ZSL
Posted by Sam Hunter (Member # 1119) on 09-12-2002, 06:33 PM:
Phase one of my project has been completed. Pretty good results.
Waiting on the BX80 to show up now.
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Samual Hunter Sr.
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