If you could understand the message, you got the insulting point. Drink a big, tall glass of Sani-Flush / Drano infected tea and die already. I am tired of your shit.
Oh, and I did not get infected at all. My firewall and constantly updated virus protection software caught the attempts. But these attempts at the Bugbear virus and OLD, OLD, OLD, OLD Klez virus are just freaking impotent, you ball-less, penis-less little nerds.
Come to my f**king house and find out about the virus I have in an Ithaca pump shotgun, or a Sig-Sauer 9mm (the same kind the Navy Seals carry). It requires no executable file to install. No script either. I just pull the trigger, and your geek ass is done. The subtext is --NO ONE LIKES YOU. We want you to die. Jump in front of a speeding freight locomotive and do us a favor. Or just do something PRODUCTIVE for a living. DUMBASS.
Well, to be quite honest, I sincerely doubt anyone here in Film-Tech wastes their time trying to commit acts of identity theft against any fellow users. And I am sure many participants in this forum share the same blatant disregard of constitutional rights afforded to virus writers the world over. In short, I think some others on this forum would be climbing over me to get to the trigger of a .50 cal machinegun aimed at virus writers who created things like the Klez and Bugbear worms.
At any rate, magazines like 2600 that elevate virus writers to the level of anti-hero status should be acid burned. Sorry. I just do not buy into the CONSTANT BULLSHIT that says people who break the law are cool. Screw that shit. Make those assholes work for a living.'
I mean, damn, take movie theater workers for instance. They have to put up with irritating, ungrateful customers. They have to deal with violent customers that knife up the seats or throw gummy bears at the screen or dump soda on the floor on purpose. Maybe it would be presumptouous, but I think these blue collar fellows would be on my side with this shit.
DIE YOU SCUMBAG VIRUS WRITERS. STOP MAKING ME WASTE MONEY TO SUBSCRIBE TO NORTON AND ALL THAT CRAP. GET A FREAKING LIFE. GET LAID FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE.
Okay. I am done with my rant. Sorry for the disturbance. Hope some of you found it funny.
(i should also note, when I originally posted this it was very late and I had just gotten home from doing some partying and was a little bit smashed. I'm not usually that belligerent.)
I don't know about you, but the laws just aren't stern enough to effectively combat these creators of viruses. I say give them life in prison with no option to get out early. Let one or two of them spend the rest of their life in jail and that should set one hell of an example to the rest of them. This shit would stop, I guarantee it.
Actually you can add spammers to that life in prison idea as well. I would say the electric chair, but that's letting them off too easy. (And no I do not need to put a winky smiley face here.)
Any hacker should be subject to many civil penalities though. If caught (that's the rub), they should be subject to a $1 million judgement for each computer infected. They should also get slammed with additional penalties, such as violating the civil rights of all users they hacked. It in an invasion of privacy.
I agree with the suspicions that some hackers are paid handsomely by Symantec and McAfee to come up with new viruses. But the main thing going on is identity theft.
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However, with as much as jails are overcrowded with rapists, murderers and armed robbers,
And let's not forget all the people in prison without anything on their record except simple drug posession. Let them go, and the jails will be half empty!
I strongly believe that life in prison is justifiable for the authors of viruses. For some people, their computer IS their life. It contains all of their documents, records, files, and other "vital data." If you destroy this, you essentially destroy their life. My neighbor lost two years of research due to a virus. Sure, he should have backed it up, but there are still many people without CD burners who don't expect to wake up in the morning and find everything they've ever worked on gone.
Brad -- I also used to believe the Anti-Virus companies may be paying some people to author stuff for them, but there ARE people who do that sort of thing "just for fun." Just like people who throw nacho cheese at the screen or slash a seat -- they just want to be destructive for attention, yet remain unnoticed. Perhaps some time in a nice smelly jail cell with "Bubba" is just the attention they need. 
=TMP=
I've spent really quite a long time learning how to avoid virus related problems, and this learning process started by inadvertenty clicking on an attachment and kicking off MTX. In other words, I learnt the hard way. There are lots of other things I'd rather have spent that time on (getting laid springs to mind as an entirely agreeable alternative!). So I agree - nail the bastards, but be sure that it really is the bastards that you're nailing.
What gets me is when they bust the virus writers and their names are made public, some software companies hire some of them!! 
Besides, hackers historically have not destroyed data or systems, just gained access for fun.
Dave
I agree totally with Bobby Hendersons words. Jail is too good for these people. Shit, they would just sit and watch cable TV, and that is something that I would love. In jail, they just sit around, eat, sleep, lift weights, and have fun with Moose, and Bubba in the dark corners of the showers.
Lets pour honey all over these people and let a load of fire ants loose on them. It would serve them right.
(I am usually more tolerant that this, but since the others here feel the same way, I feel that I am in good company. There are strength in numbers!)
Believing that Symantec and McAffee are behind all the viruses is like believing that Cisco and Checkpoint Software are behind all network hacking and cracking (so they can sell more firewalls).
As for applying the death penalty, we might want to distinguish between virus authors and virus senders before flipping the switch. Many innocent users have unwittingly become virus senders after becoming infected.
Sorry, I know that this has nothing to do with the virus thread, but the topic got me thinking about if these ant-virus programs were written by computer geeks and not a company, they are probably a part of the group I mentioned above.
(Evil, evil Ian. I'm not going to resize your pictures forever. -Brad)
Many people who have problems communicating with others turn to the computer because they do not want to be rejected in the flesh, many times from the experience of dealing with assholes that don't give a damn about the person they are hurting. I think telling these people to get a life is a little harsh. To me it's like telling people who love projection and do it as a hobby that they have no life. I'm not speaking of people who nessesarily write virus's...just people that use the computer in excess in general. I have many friends who are not good at communicating with others...YES, they program for fun! BELIEVE IT! It's a hobby, something they love, just like loving projection.
Don't take this post as me condoning virus writing in any way, that is not what I'm talking about. I just think the comments that Darren wrote were a bit too harsh.
Case in point is way back when for about three years while I was unable to properly care for myself when I suffered second and third degree burns on my hands and was unable to just go out and have a life. The computer was my life. This was at the dawn of voice activated computers, and I had just such a neat tool. It was my life and blood and how I kept up with the world.
Another time was during my brain cancer days. I was then unable to care for myself in public and spent most of my days on the computer in order to stay in touch with the outside world.
I have gotten past all my difficulties in life, for the most part. I still have problems with my hands, like I cannot hold onto a glass or a pencil. I have memory problems like I cannot remember peoples names that I have known my whole life, it takes me around five to ten seconds to recall most things people know by heart.
I get to socialize these days, I always have been able to. But geuss what, I also suffer from severe depression and anxiety. I get panic attacks and I hate to be in large crowds. How do I deal with it? I do stand up and perform on stage. I work in insurance now and make cold calling a thing of importance for me.
My point is that not all people are able to beat the blues. Most people resort to this thing, the computer. It is the one great equalizer that helps connect us all, no matter if you use it five minutes or all friggin day.
There are those lost in it, and they COULD become obsessive and vengeful, but those are few and far between. It is so easy for anyone to laugh at those that find the computer a necessary tool of life.
It used to be meeting ANYONE from the internet was a big joke and was just for losers. I have met my future wife on the net. Why not in a bar? DO I HAVE TO ANSWER THAT? Do I really want to hook up with a bar fly, a church lady, or even worse, the secretary at work? I met this fantastic woman (who bears a striking resemblance to wednesday addams) over the internet. The internet makes it possible to lay it all out there, true or not, and do it without getting hurt. We were able to find each other this way, and otherwise it never would have happened.
So the computer is a good thing, and I am glad to have it a huge part of my life.
Dave
I know many "computer people" that would rather sit on the internet and do whatever than go outside and play football, nothing wrong with that, just a lifestyle, a lifestyle that is new and foreign to most of mainstream America.
As for hackers, many do it for the simple pleasure of obtaining something that is forbidden, others for notorioty within the hacking community, some believe if they can write a good enough virus collection and become known they will be assured a position within a top software security company for big bucks.
I can assure you that Symantec, McAfee, etc are not writing this stuff, I have several contacts in the security community that laugh whenever people bring that up. They do however hire "security consultants" former hackers that enlighten them as to the current happenings and techniques being used within the underground hacker community.
two hackers, became very famous. In fact it was thier own hacking that helped create two very large computer type companies, Microsoft and Apple.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were hackers. They hired hackers. Hacking helped create the computers we have now. Hackers now help create the newer computers that come out in the future. Hackers are not evil, just virus writers. Well not even then. Some virus writers do it to prevent someone else from writing that virus and loosing it on the internet community. It is the ones that loose them that are evil. But yet after years of minimum security prison, they are assured consulting jobs with high end computer type companies.
So where do I write some viruses and make some sawbucks?
Dave
The original device was knows as a "Blue Box" and enabled users to manipulate the phone network all over the world and to make free phone calls. Steve Wozniak (co-founder of Apple) discovered the device and was introduced to one of its inventors, Captain Crunch, the network of Phone Phreakers were the inspirations for Wozniak to create many computer components, including the first Apple Computer.