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Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 10-14-2002, 01:07 PM:

Picture got corrupted.

Posted by Mike Olpin (Member # 1115) on 10-14-2002, 08:05 PM:

Much like the image you tried to post.

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 10-15-2002, 10:34 AM:

He must have tried posting from a Mac

Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 10-15-2002, 10:40 AM:

Maybe that compression was a little bit more effective than first imagined.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-15-2002, 11:25 AM:

Yeah Dustin, Macs suck, they can't do ANYTHING right. HA ha ha hah aha hahaha you are soooo funny!

Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 10-15-2002, 12:54 PM:

I think Joe is FINALLY catching on!

Posted by Gerard S. Cohen (Member # 994) on 10-15-2002, 01:41 PM:

Watch out!
When Joe does that ten-finger Voodoo-in-your-face thing,
he's Redi Fer ANYTHING!

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 10-15-2002, 01:42 PM:

A little sensitive Joe? Just a joke.

The only thing that annoys me about Apple are the stupid commerials. They get thsee complete idiots to say, 'drr, I couldn't work my PC so it must have sucked.'

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-15-2002, 01:47 PM:

Better be careful Dustin, Joe is proudly responsible for 99% of all Windows viruses. He may unleash one on you!

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-15-2002, 02:52 PM:

I know it was a joke Dustin, but those jokes and even Windows jokes just get old. I don't make fun of Windows anymore... why bother? No one cares if I don't like Windows. My point is that those jokes have lost their humor and don't take much thought to come up with.

Plus I can make fun of you all I want. You don't have a picture so therefore you deserve it!

Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 10-15-2002, 03:11 PM:

Brad must have fixed the picture.

Anyway, on the more serious side, I put 7 of those MAC computers with monitors and printers outside with a big "FREE" sign on them. With the idea of someone helping themselves, I thought the pile would disappear. No such luck. Nobody seems to want them. It is a shame, because they are probably good machines. I really don't want to toss them in the dumpster.

The printers are apple Lazer Printers, industrial strength, I might add. Is there a way I can make those printers compatible to PC's without too much problem? If so, I will definately "rescue" them.

Thanks - Paul

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 10-15-2002, 10:04 PM:

I could be wrong on this, but I could have sworn Apple has made Windows compatible drivers for its other hardware items like printers and monitors in the past. Perhaps they are not doing that now with their Apple branded flat panel displays (since they have a different digital connector). But I do remember seeing such Windows supported compatibility in the past.

As per the Mac versus PC things, its all a bunch of baloney. Both platforms have their own share of pluses and minuses. The over-generalized comments about what PCs cannot do in the "switch" campaign from Apple really get on my nerves. Windows PCs can do graphics, video, print work, scientific work and lots of other stuff in spite of what the "switch" ads claim. It is just that some things available on the Mac side allow you to do many of those tasks more easily. I could get Avid or Pinnacle Edition software for authoring video on the PC. But I think I would be better served getting the Final Cut Pro deal on the Mac side.

If Apple wants to slam Windows, they need to do it in the right way. Bust Bill Gates on Windows having so many security flaws, with Outlook Express being the chief culprit of them all. And then brag about some of the Apple-only "killer apps" like Final Cut Pro. Finally, let PC users know that many game developers, such as Id Software, are now producing games for the Mac.

That is going to sell more systems than the typically inaccurate, sickening mudslinging typical of so many Apple ad campaigns in the past. Steve Jobs needs to just cut out that negative shit already.

Posted by Martin Brooks (Member # 1269) on 10-15-2002, 10:21 PM:

quote:
The printers are apple Lazer Printers, industrial strength, I might add. Is there a way I can make those printers compatible to PC's without too much problem? If so, I will definately "rescue" them.

There might be a way. There's a company that makes a device that converts Ethernet to AppleTalk. I think it sells for around $100. Any computer store that sells Mac should know the device. Using that device should work with an Apple Laser Printer, providing you have an appropriate Postscript driver on the Windows computer for that printer. But...if those printers are really old, it might not be worth the trouble.

And I'm not surprised that no one wanted those computers. The one in the picture looks like a Mac 6100. The earliest 6100 came out in 1994 and was discontinued in 1995. It was a 60MHZ machine and the Hard Disk was only 160MB. A single high-resolution Photoshop image can be that large.

The last 6100 series machine was a 6100/66/AV. It operated at 66MHZ and the largest hard disk available for it was 500MB, although most machines came with 350MB. It had a double-speed CD-ROM drive. It was discontinued in August of 1995.

The machines now deserve the fate indicated in that picture. But I have to confess, the machine looks like it held up really well under that truck tire.

As far as Mac vs. Wintel, I've used both for many years and personally, I greatly prefer the Mac with one UI exception: Mac OS has never gotten the mini-finder right. Windows got it right starting with Win98.

I happen to love their advertising campaign. For the first time in many campaigns, it actually contains some reasons to buy a Mac other than the fact that it's cool looking. But I also liked the ill-fated Lemmings campaign. I hated those ads that did nothing more than show an I-Mac in the color of the day spinning on a turntable. And I thought the ad of the kid on the airplane who takes up two tray tables to play music was also pretty stupid. Who is going to do that in real life?

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 10-15-2002, 11:48 PM:

Hey, that tire looks familiar. I am pretty sure it tried to run over one of my dogs last summer. I think I've seen those tread marks right on my own block!!
Mark

Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 10-15-2002, 11:52 PM:

quote:
If Apple wants to slam Windows, they need to do it in the right way. Bust Bill Gates on Windows having so many security flaws, with Outlook Express being the chief culprit of them all.

Considering Microsoft is a fairly large shareholder of Apple (22% or so) I don't think Gates would appreciate such an ad compaign.

Too bad.

Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 10-16-2002, 12:24 AM:

Martin said:

quote:
The last 6100 series machine was a 6100/66/AV. It operated at 66MHZ and the largest hard disk available for it was 500MB, although most machines came with 350MB. It had a double-speed CD-ROM drive. It was discontinued in August of 1995.
The machines now deserve the fate indicated in that picture. But I have to confess, the machine looks like it held up really well under that truck tire.

Indeed, that machine had a 500MB drive. I let the truck sit on top of it all day, (The truck weighs almost 6.500 lbs and has a Diesel engine) and at the end of the day the computer bulged just a little. I tossed the computer in the dumpster, and later I fished it out to see if the NIC card was any good (it didn't exist since it was part of the main board) so I decided to pull the CDROM and hard drive along with the RAM. I have MAC Ram, Hard Drives, and CDROM Drives for MAC coming out of the Gazoo...anyone want any?

Even though my truck sat on it all day, the CDROM drive, Hard Drive, and RAM was still in perfect condition. The only damage was to the plastic cover and the face plate and one of its feet was broken. The general condition looked like it would still have been able to "compute" if powered up.

Maybe next time I'll try a steam roller.

Anyway, I tossed everything in the "Free Pile" with the exception of three monitors, three computers, and three of the Lazer Printers. I will look at the possibilities of obtaining conversion drivers to make those printers run with a PC. One of those printers looks like it could handle a ream of paper in the loading dock. It was heavy enough where I almost needed 275 lb football player to carry it for me.

Mark, yes indeed, it was the "Wheel"...

Posted by Sean McKinnon (Member # 612) on 10-16-2002, 03:20 AM:

Paul!!!!!!!

dont destroyt that mac stuff throw it all in a box and ship it to me!!!!!!

Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 10-16-2002, 12:36 PM:

Sean:

Email me, and I'll see what I can do for you.

Posted by Aaron Haney (Member # 747) on 10-17-2002, 12:20 AM:

quote:
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote
Considering Microsoft is a fairly large shareholder of Apple (22% or so)...

Actually, Microsoft only owns a 7% stake in Apple, and that's non-voting stock. The stock comes from a $150 million investment made in 1997, which came out of a settlement over long-standing patent disputes between the two companies. Microsoft also gave Apple an "undisclosed sum" as part of the same settlement.

Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 10-17-2002, 02:17 AM:

Good to hear! I guess I must have mixed up that deal with the Corel deal.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-17-2002, 12:27 PM:

Sean, please tone down the fake lens flare in your pic. Your face is nearly unvisible.

Posted by Sean McKinnon (Member # 612) on 10-18-2002, 03:54 AM:

Joe,

Chipper Rachel was nice enough to do that for me. The background didnt come out in the picture so she put that there to make it more interesting. The fact that it hides my my face is an added bonus... It makes me... Mysterious

Posted by Joe Smith (Member # 190) on 10-18-2002, 06:43 PM:

Paul, love that jack stand! Hope you got a pair of them..

I can't let this thread go by without a little MAC bashing.....

Anyone know what the acronym MACINTOSH stands for??

Most
Applications
Crash!
If
Not,
The
Operating
System
Hangs!

Sorry, couldn't resist. However, for the one or two MAC lovers that still exist, I have to admit that since OS 8.1 or so, the acronym is no longer as accurate as it used to be...

Joe

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 10-18-2002, 07:57 PM:

I've been using Windows PCs for roughly a decade. Regardless of any funny Macintosh acronym, my next computer is going to be a Mac.

I've had it with Windows' bullshit. Microsoft refuses to fix the fundamental problem that makes Windows the most laughable security nightmare in computer history. And that's the Siamese twinning of MS Office, Outlook Express and Internet Explorer components into the core of the OS kernal. DUMBASSES! I'm the customer. I am right. They should have fixed the problem. So I'm going to take my business elsewhere --to a place where 99.99% of computer viruses won't do shit on my new machine.

And Windows doesn't have Final Cut Pro or DVD Studio Pro.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 10-18-2002, 08:04 PM:

Ha ha ha Joe Smith is funny too! Where do we get so many funny people? Here is an acronym for Joe Smith:

Just
Offering
Endless
Superfunny
Mac-
Illiterate
Type
Humor

Bobby, maybe Apple can get you to star in one of their "Switch" TV commercials. You can be standing there telling the camera how you couldn't figure out how to insert a CD into the CD ROM drive. Then you can say you switched to Mac because it has an eject button on the keyboard!

By the way... I hate the eject button on the keyboard... I plan on taking the mirrored silver panel off of my Mac so I can open the drive before the OS boots up.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 10-18-2002, 10:07 PM:

Actually, if I were to star in one of the "Switch" ads, I would make boasts about how my new Mac suddenly made me more attractive and able to score with the bodacious honeys more often!

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 07-30-2003, 12:55 PM:

Hmmmm. The label says
"Warning, if you're a Mac True Believer without a sense of humor, do not click on the link." [Big Grin]

http://site54815.dellhost.com/mac.wmv

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-30-2003, 04:40 PM:

That's pretty funny, I think Apple should see that. Personally I hate the old iMacs and was glad to see it kicked. Interestingly (I am on a Windows PC right now) the video file almost crashed my windows browser. [Smile]

PS - I don't think that video was edited on a Mac like he says, since Macs do not understand WMV files. It certainly can't encode them.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 07-30-2003, 05:47 PM:

Considering the strange video quality (looks like generation loss to me), I can't help but wonder if the clip was originally encoded in Quicktime format and then opened up in another app like Premiere and saved in WMV format.

The clip is still pretty funny though.

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 07-30-2003, 09:32 PM:

That Apple can survive with less that 4 percent of the market indicates how huge the market is.

Question: Would Apple still be here if not for the huge cash "settlement" from Microsoft? I think I remember Apple as about to go down the dumper at the time of the infusion of capital and the reinstement of Jobs.

A friend who is a loyal Apple fanatic says that if there were as many Macs as PCs and as much flawed software as there is for PCs the crashes and problems would be just as many.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-30-2003, 09:44 PM:

Per capita, probably. Especially if Mac was really popular and there were tons of crappy shareware programs for it like Windows. Also there would be more Mac viruses that way. But as far as the OS's themselves go, OS X is pretty stable as is Win2K. So all of the crash jokes coming from BOTH sides are kind of stupid nowadays.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 07-31-2003, 12:55 AM:

The anti-OS jokes are really pretty stupid. But I do agree with the theory of Microsoft buying an interest in Apple to stave off other things like anti-trust judgments.

The US DOJ is a bunch of little bitches for not sticking it to Microsoft when they really deserved it. I still very strongly feel the WindowOS and Internet Explorer/Outlook Express need to be completely divided up between two totally separate companies. The IE/OE shit that plaques Windows is by far the largest security nightmare that has ever existed in personal computing history. That alone is enough to break Microsoft up into a bunch of tiny pieces, evil business practices notwithstanding.

Posted by Elena N. Solovyova (Member # 1636) on 07-31-2003, 01:48 AM:

Here in Russia having Mac is considered to be antisocial [Wink]

Nobody will hire you nowadays with Mac-only computer experience.

Which is a shame.