With about 110,000 35mm screens in the world, there's alot of projectors to replace.
The viewing window seems to be 8-perf wide, so I suspect it was for 35mm still film. Doubt it was for VistaVision.
quote:Put nitrate anywhere near a heating element and I'd have thought you'd be talking Kentucky fried projectionists! Was this thing really intended for use with nitrate (i.e. was it made significantly earlier than 1950)?
I have a Maier-Hancock 16/35 hot splicer [...] it is useful only for making splices on acetate- or nitrate-base film.
of some film from 1999 called "Unconditional Love". Seller says these are "the original rolls used to shoot the movie." Looks like b/w Estar stock?? (thought they only use acetate in the cameras to "shoot the movie" with) Take a look. Could this be ALL of the unedited footage for the film?
yeah, be sure to cut out ALL frames with tape on them before you run a movie on an old projector. Even if you just made that tape splice a few seconds ago...
load of cash, selling THOSE things on EBay!
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Good luck trying to find over/under 3-D video programming!
quote:Yes they do. They play just fine (the 6-track discs, not the stereo discs). However it is important to note that if the movie is stopped for some reason, certain later model players cannot pick up where it left off. Seems I recall something about the dts player wanting to see the beginning of the reel for a "start command" or something along those lines.
The original Jurrassic Park discs won't even work in any of the newer DTS systems.
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quote:(from michael's link)
An actor, Declan Mulholland, stood in for the Jabba creature. George intended to replace the actor optically with a puppet or stop-motion creature, but he ran out of time and money and dropped the shot altogether.
quote:3/4" diameter! I think not. Even uncoated carbons are seldom that size. I think the positives for the old wartime searchlights are close to it. 10" long for 75 Amps sound like negatives.
Copper covered 10" long, 3/4" diameter.
quote:
Seller's payment instructions & return policy:
Please stuff $100 dollar bills in pillow case and have them sent round to my bed-sit.
. Don't you know that Uncle Georgee has a monitor for that plane right on his desk! Believe me he knows its every whereabouts.....
<--- smiley!

quote:Oh PULEEZE, Tim! That is a red-neck USA Red, White, and Blue color scheme.
But, really, the thing that ruins this setup is it's so gay... look at those colors!
Will you be picking up Johnny Depp's
I need to update my old "Groucho Marx" picture of me leaning on the paneling after three vodkas....I have a pirate picture as a member of a parade, or maybe the hula skirt photo from the dance contest I won when I was a strapping three years old.
quote:How did she ever get through airport security?
I had a client's wife meet me at the Miami airport a few years ago with four 2000 watt xenon bulbs wrapped in socks in her hand bag.....she later chewed out her husband when she found out what could have happened....
quote:Certainly xenon lamps would be restricted from carry-on baggage as "compressed gas" and sharp objects (quartz and tungsten electrodes)
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quote:Jon the point is you don't have it picked up
I don't even want to think about the cost to have that beast picked up and shipped to the States, if it could be!
quote:
Eurotunnel drill sells at £39,999
A huge boring machine used to build the Channel Tunnel that links the south of England and France has been sold by online auction site eBay. The 580-ton drill went for £39,999 to a bidder using the name steddenm. The price does not include delivery.
The auction started on 2 April but faced problems last week as it was peppered with hoax bids of up to £10m. By Sunday, eBay said it had removed or cancelled all but 59 offers and had put a vetting process in place.
The auction closed on Monday at 1715 BST with a total number of 65 bids. Money raised from the sale is to be shared between three charities chosen by staff from Eurotunnel, the company that operates the underground rail link. The charities are Macmillan Nurses, Demelza House Hospice and Pilgrim's Hospice.
According to the eBay listing, the drill "removed a half million cubic meters of chalk and soil in creating the Eurotunnel route" and is "a prized relic from the greatest construction achievement of the 20th century". The write-up suggests it would be of interest to science museums or "technical enthusiasts around the world".
Buyers need to be pretty sure of what they are purchasing, however, because Eurotunnel states that returns are not accepted.
quote:I think I may still have a poster for it... though it would take some serious looking.
I had a "Revenge of the Jedi" trailer.
quote:Amazing, how one line can say it all!
Hahahahahahaha.
Phil can have the rest of the stuff!!quote: Bill CarterValley Cinemas (twin screen former Jerry Lewis theatre) in Buena Vista dropped the print of "Passion" on April 22nd, so it looks like he had about a month before he tried to sell it on eBay. Not sure when he stole it. He's currently out of jail on $2500 bond..
I wonder if Technicolor was as slow in picking up everyone else's prints of Passion
That chick sitting on the organ in the last pic of that last auction is a HOTTIE! Those "wartime gals" make me sweat. quote:There are 9 bidders for this "document"
Please note that the above & the listed product is NOT what i am selling & that i am only selling you a document containing information on how to purchase the above & listed item for £20 and i hope that you are pleased with the product you purchase and the service i have provided you with... Again you are bidding for a document containing information to website (which i have nothing to do with) where you can purchase the iPod for a further twenty pounds on top of what you have paid for this service
quote: Gordon McLeod
this is the one he needs for his basement screening room
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quote: Scott NorwoodIt's eentsy, Scott! My friend's 4 rank Wicks, moved to several apartments with him, was just the same, only with straight organ voices not theatre organ. That photo on the lower left shows pretty much all the pipework (the chimes are against the back wall). The four chests sit on the floor, altogether it's about 7 feet long, & about 3 feet deep. Put it against a wall, & put a couch in front of it. The console is the size of a small desk. Wicks made cases for their 4 & 6 rank organs; when the day comes when you want to enclose it, make it a nice piece of furniture, & enjoy the swell pedal, just write Wicks for the plans. Crumbs, the seller even has pipe trays made up already: pull the pipes & put them in the trays, sling the console, trays, chests, blower & tremulant in the truck, you're out in a couple of hours.
Wow. I need a house. With a basement.
quote: Scott NorwoodYou've got a camcorder, don't you? And a theatre & a DVD burner, don't you? What's the problem here?
And an extra $1500.
quote: Brad MillerI'll forward it to my contacts at the MPAA. I agree, some clips may be coming from classic prints, ruining them. When a good 70mm clip shows up on the underground market, it's reason to cry.
John P, think you can bring this up at some meeting? ...Actually I was referring to sending their studio lawyers after every instance of "cells" on ebay. Without ebay, film cell sales would probably be killed by more than 90%. They already run after ebay sellers auctioning off trailers and promotional materials, why not film cells?
quote: Bill GabelCan you project side-by-side matched images? Or do you alternate between the two films, using two projectors in sync?
Right now I'm running a print stock test for a project. They are looking a Kodak Vision vs. Kodak Premiere stock.
Projector
quote:
Complete Ghostbuster suit - -accurate, sounds & lights!Ghostbusters
quote: Scott Norwoodnope...it's not the same thing
Or hydrogen hydroxide....
quote:That auction is hilarious! TFF!
We can hang out at my trailer and watch tv...
quote:Edit: Making a $20 bid on Phil's behalf. Just as an early Christmas gift buddy!
History: 3 bids
quote: Dick VaughanThere was a chap(thats what you guys say)that was attempting to raise money to restore that plane and If I remember correctly he did have a deadline for some reason or other.... apparently he didn't make that deadline. It was featured on a special about a year and a half ago on Discovery Channel. I believe he even has all the blue prints and manuals so that should make it an easy job! That was a great airplane.....
Start your own air force with this classic
quote:How do they plan on raising more than 28k for charity with a cheese sandwich? Sell it on eBay? Hey - Here's an idea: GIVE THE 28K DIRECTLY. Stupid freakin' publicity stunt.
HOLLYWOOD, Florida (AP) -- A woman who said her 10-year-old grilled cheese sandwich bore the image of the Virgin Mary will be getting a lot more bread after the item sold for $28,000 on eBay.
GoldenPalace.com, an online casino, confirmed that it placed the winning bid, and company executives said they were willing to spend "as much as it took" to own the 10-year-old half-sandwich with a bite out of it.
"It's a part of pop culture that's immediately and widely recognizable," spokesman Monty Kerr told The Miami Herald. "We knew right away we wanted to have it."
Photos posted on eBay show what can be viewed as a woman's face emblazoned on the sandwich, a bite taken out of one end. Bidding closed Monday.
In a statement, GoldenPalace.com CEO Richard Rowe said he planned to use the sandwich to raise money for charity. Kerr and Steve Baker, CEO of GoldenPalace's management company, Cyberworld Group, flew to south Florida on Monday to make arrangements for a sandwich handover from its owner, Diana Duyser.
"I would like all people to know that I do believe that this is the Virgin Mary Mother of God," Duyser, a work-from-home jewelry designer, said in the casino's statement.
The online auction site initially pulled the sale, saying it didn't post joke items. The page was restored after the company was convinced that Duyser would deliver on the bid, said eBay spokesman Hani Durzy.
Duyser said she took a bite after making the sandwich 10 years ago and saw a face staring back at her. She put the sandwich in a clear plastic box with cotton balls and kept it on her night stand. She said the sandwich has never sprouted a spore of mold.
quote:I just opened a jar of pickles and one of them bears the image of Phil. How much will that fetch?
HOLLYWOOD, Florida (AP) -- A woman who said her 10-year-old grilled cheese sandwich bore the image of the Virgin Mary will be getting a lot more bread after the item sold for $28,000 on eBay.
quote:...yet there is no bite taken out of the pictured sandwich.
I made this sandwich 10 minutes ago, when I took a bite out of it, I saw a face looking up at me
quote: HHOT Daniel!While I have no idea of how I got dragged into this, I must say Daniel... I would never cheat on you. See you this weekend again? Hugs!
Here's one for you Phil, Nice manicure on this guy!!!!
quote: http://www.merriam-webster.com
Main Entry: cel
Variant(s): also cell /'sel/
Function: noun
Etymology: short for celluloid
: a transparent sheet of celluloid on which objects are drawn or painted in the making of animated cartoons
quote: WilliamCelluloid was replaced by acetate? Really? Celluloid IS acetate! Cellulose Triacetate (and once upon a time cellulose diacetate).
which was called a "cel" short for celluloid, but which for decades have been replaced by acetate
quote: Steve Kraus"Celluloid" is a trademark for cellulose nitrate. Technically, it only applies to cellulose nitrate plastics:
Celluloid was replaced by acetate? Really? Celluloid IS acetate! Cellulose Triacetate (and once upon a time cellulose diacetate).
quote:http://www.plastiquarian.com/celluloi.htm
The name Celluloid actually began as a trademark
quote:
This breakthrough in approach was the reason why Spill's patent action against Hyatt was ultimately unsuccessful. In 1870 Hyatt and his brother set up the Albany Dental Plate Company to manufacture dental plate blanks from the new material which they called Celluloid. In 1871 the Celluloid Manufacturing Company was established in Albany, transferring to Newark, New Jerse in 1872. A further reason why Hyatt's enterprise was successful where others had failed was that he developed machinery for working the new material - his 'stuffing machine' was a forerunner of injection moulding. He worked with machinery manufacturers such as Burroughs to make the first plastics processing machinery.
Celluloid became the generic name for cellulose nitrate plastics and its use for knife handles, washable collars and cuffs, toys, table tennis balls, etc became widespread. However, the highly inflammable nature of celluloid was always a hazard to its manufacture and use, and as newer plastics materials became available its use gradually declined.
quote: Steve KrausYou only need to worry when your game is "hot".
Woah...Ping Pong balls are made of nitrocellulose?
quote: Phil HillActually its Sun Valley, Idaho... Not Utah
Not to burst your bubble, Mark... but it's Sun Valley, CALIFORNIA! In the San Fernando Valley... NOT Utah
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quote: Carl MartinThis is for 70mm single strip Cinerama.... like was used for Mad World. Not three strip....
but mark, don't you need 3?
Went to see Finding Neverland last week and poor Johnny Depp was attacked by CAP code marks several times
quote: Mark J. MarshallThats a scream! Be sure to place a nice Bulls Eye over him.
I should buy that picture, make about a thousand copies and then re-sell them as originals.

quote:Do they honstly belive someone will buy it
Brad Miller Wrote
This whole "film cell" nonsense is REALLY getting out of hand with this one!
quote:But Phil, things normally cost alot more in upstart Old York......
Oh boy, here's another "winner"! He's only off by about $2500...what a jerk!
quote:Umm... try 1950s. A "16mm" lamphouse?! Some people just have no clue.
The circa 1920's Carbon-Arch lamphouses... (See the photo with the door open on the one lamphouse and the 16mm lamphouse just inside).
quote: Tim ReedTrue since most of the eBayers don't really know what they have, but here's a Bell and Howell 16mm mechanism out of its portable case tied in front of an Orcon xenon lamphouse.
A "16mm" lamphouse?! Some people just have no clue.

quote: Gordon McLeodI'll give you 10:1 odds the ORC inside the Ashcraft isn't set up for 16mm.
The M1000 like the original lumex had a reflector that was designed for 16mm
quote: William HooperWouldn't you need three of them, though?
Cinerama screen from Dayton, OH
quote: William HooperNow if screenwriters could write jokes this funny, there'd be worth something to see at the movies.
Cinerama screen from Dayton, OH
quote: Brad MillerMy initial post was a joke... I know what Cinerama is, and what is being offered in that auction. And the difference between the two.
Look closer Daniel.
quote: Pete NaplesIn that case the Navy could buy it and use bits of the casing to patch up their Trident submarines. Those GKs are built so solidly that I'm sure they'd be ideal for the purpose!
Interesting, that GK37 is NOT in St Andrews, it's in Rosyth...
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Q: Will you ship to America?
A: Shipping to the US will cost ~$500 according to Fedex / UPS website. I will ship to the US if the buyer covers the cost of shipping.
Q: is the speaker easily interchangeable with any other 12" subwoofer?
A: Yes, totally interchangable Regards Andy
Q: How about a real question... Is the stand included?
A: Yes, the stand is included... and the speaker cable adorned with gold plated 4mm plugs.
Q: Will it include any anti-attack firing batteries to ensure my girlfriend doesn't mount a sneak attack? I suspect she is a rebel sympathizer.
A: It's defenses against girlfriends are a known weakness... hence the reason it's on ebay![]()
Q: Look at the size of that thing!
A: Cut the chatter, Red 2.
Q: Do you still have the plans for this death star or have they been stolen?
A: I find your lack of faith disturbing...
Q: If your "deathstar" subwooofer had a stand-up fight with a "borg cube" all-in-1 hi-fi then who'd win and how?
A: The Death Star can destroy a planet. I can't imagine it would struggle against a gramophone with a built in wireless and auto-reverse cassette deck.
Q: Please can you confirm whether it is the black or red thermal exhaust port that leads directly to the Main Reactor?
A: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!
Q: Does it have an artifical gravity generator?
A: No, it relies on real gravity.
Q: What sort of defenses does it have, if on the off chance.. there is a Rebel attack. I don't really want to cough up for this only to have it destroyed by some pesky X-Wing fighters.
A: It protects itself by oscillating the atmosphere around it at low frequencies. An X-Wing would fall apart before it got close.
Q: I appreciate you not being able to offer shipping - would you be able to give me a hand loading it? I don't think it will fit in my car, do you think it would be possible to get it on a roof rack? Thanks.
A: I can give you a hand of course. Being a sphere I'm not sure it would be suitable for a roof rack. I've never tried, but it would probably go in a hatch back with the seats down.
Q: I have a "Cloud city on the gas planet Besbin" AV receiver. Are they compatable?
A: The Death Star cannot be powered by line level alone, you could not destroy a planet with line level. It needs an external amplifier, you can buy mine![]()
Q: Does it include a tractor beam?
A: For health and safety reasons I decided not to include a tractor beam. If you recall, it all started to go wrong for Darth Vader following the use of such a device.
Q: If I can't collect, can it fly through space to me instead?
A: That would require a pilot of considerable skill.
Q: A speaker you say? so it's NOT a moon. Do I get lots of little Storm Troopers living in it too??
A: I'm unable to disclose this information, you may be part of the Rebel Alliance.
quote:The last one of those I removed was taken out to a field the next day and put out of its misery with a 30-06
I love this one! WOW only $900 for a Kintek POS amp! WHAT A DEAL!
quote: Daryl C. W. O'SheaPthbbbt. Mr. Airplane Pilot drives an MG. Nobody will take you seriously until you get an Austin Healey, Lotus, or at least a TR-6.
Nice. I think I'll head down the highway and run some carbons behind a pair of BX-60s tomorrow. Or at least swear at a MG
quote: Jeff StrickerI know of at least four other complete "Streamlined" Brenkerts out there...... All were with BX-80's but the linage on any Brenkert projector door will line up with the rest of the streamline parts so it doesn't really matter much which model. The only thing to coisider is that all the streamline stuff was trashed long before the BX-60 appeared.....
The Brenkert streamline outfit in the Ebay auction Phil posted is actually a BX-60.
quote: Daryl C. W. O'SheaThen you need an MG! Outstandingly reliable, affordable, enjoyable cars. Then you can be goaded into getting a more cortically stimulating car like a big Healey, Lotus or TR-6.
nor do I drive an MG. I'm currently driving a company vehicle -- a POS Toyota Four Runner.
quote: Andy SummersWhat the hell did he just say???
That’s why I’m taking the piss out of it on different forums, as we speck?
quote: John Hawkinson..that's "Zebra" tape. You can see the clear stock within the yellow coloring.
[or is that zebra? I can't quite tell.]

quote: Marc HansenYou need to go look at the bidder list. Klang film tagged it at 167.00 from 75.00, then it went up from there. Kinda makes me wonder if Klangfilm works there??????
What am I missing here? Lavezzi's web site says this sells for $75 and it just sold for $195
quote: Phil HillMore like WTF are U Smokin Phil..... All prints of that were I.B. as far as I know and decent prints of that film are EASILY worth 750 to 1K, and in really good shape even more..... So if he has 5 prints of that film then its quite realistic. Saturdays matinees of that film scared the crap out of me when I was 6
JFC! WTF R these people smokin'?
. I'd bet that Jeff J. will decend on his house as soon as the 9am Delta flight lands at O'Hare......
Mark... asshole!

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quote: Steve GuttagNot as steady laterally as other machines out there and more difficult to keep it in spec. Om locations the Simplex Gates are also VERY noisy... you generally haev a very high number of splices going through on a given reel, especially on rough cuts. Both Century C and Norelco FP's are far better in the steadiness department and it was much easier to to keep them to better than spec in all regards. I can tell you stories of running camera steadiness test films on the Centurys that even blew away the DP's!! A good example of how steady C models are was back when they did the shootout between DLP and film and the film won. They used an old Century C for that.....
Mark, why have you found Simplexes to not be good dailies machines?


quote:That's one heck of a baby!
Supports static loads up to 400 lbs
Definitely violates the Unwritten eBay Rule #1...bidding activity is inversely proportional to the set opening bid price. Never mind that thirty-eight grand is probably about eight times the amount the lot is worth.
quote: The guy selling this crap on eBaySure does. It means it cannot play many movies today and will grow obsolete as fast as possible. Obviously the seller knows nothing about projection equipment. If anyone ever truly deserved to be mauled by an illegally owned pit bull, it is this person.
I had [somebody ask me about] "visable red light analog readers" I just spoke to the man who owned and operated this equipment. He told me that it is "analog" and that it should accept commercially distributed movies and did so until 3 years ago. I hope [t]his clears up any questions.
quote: Jon MillerSometimes, I think people just list things to show that they've got them. Like a lot of film collectors in the Big Reel used to do. They have no intention of selling it.
Only $38,000 for the opening bid?
Good example of ebay greediness again. He is trying to hit a grand slam on one sale.
quote: Tim ReedTim,
Mark, what happened to Able and Baker?
quote:Yea.. I'd love to see what happens when he trys to ship that package internationally
Will ship internationally
quote: Ebay imbecileThe guy couldn't have just turned it upside down to clean it out? People will literally try to sell garbage on Ebay, and often, some schmuck will buy it. This is beyond me.
Old wooden 7up bottle crate with turds.

and placed them in his ebay store to die. Anyone want to venture a guess at how long they will be in there? I still keep waiting for the guy with the Iwerks system for $12,000 (ebay auction # 3825978580) to do something. I can't believe he has held out this long with that ebay store auction. Must be a year now at least.
quote: Joshua Waaland8 perf is pretty much a dead issue over here. I know of at least five systems... both Mega and Iwerks that the owners can't even give away. There are still tiny niche marlets in foreign countries that buy them however I doubt that will last for very long.
I still keep waiting for the guy with the Iwerks system for $12,000 (ebay auction # 3825978580) to do something. I can't believe he has held out this long with that ebay store auction. Must be a year now at least.
quote:I HATE it when crappy moron bidders like thefirstspackel keep bidding multiple times trying to see what your maximum bid is. For the love of L. Ron Hubbard just type in the maximum you are willing to pay, don't go in the smallest increments possible (eBay will do that for you)! If you are outbid after that, then ask yourself if you are really willing to pay more! God damn I hate stupid people.
MY hero, Joe Redifer, has finally received his long over-due recognition and screen credit and is quoted on eBay as the PROFESSIONAL and HERO he truly is!
....of course I may be way off base here. Actually, I'm sure it's just me
quote: Joe RediferJezzuz.....
Hepatitus B in the ass, mouth and left ear
quote: Mike BlakesleyGuess my sarcasm was too vague like Joe's comments. I'll try harder next time.
Josh, All of Joe's posts are hostile. You need to read between the lines.
quote: Frank DubroisProblem?
Jezzuz.....
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, but I guess that's their problem.
Only thing I can figure is that some buyer got caught in a bidding war or they thought it was worth a lot more than it was.
quote: Jon MillerAbout 10 years ago we bought a pair of Ernemann X Projectors that had been used by the BBC ( British Broadcarping Castration) for back projection at various studios since the 1960's for £ 1 + VAT 17.5% tax). at the same time we were offered 4 Zeiss 3.25" glass slide scenic projectors for the same price.each had a huge lamphouse with a lens tube about 4 foot long.they were Mounted on a Moy geared pan and tilt head ( each of which which was worth close to £1000 ) which in turn was mounted on what looked like a 2" naval gun mounting and painted battleship grey. Unfortunately we didn't have the space to store them and a condition of the sale was that they couldn't be broken down for parts and sold on. Bugger!
If I wanted to pour serious money down the drain, I'd rather blow the cash on something that looks like a WW-II naval weapon with a Peerless Hy-candescent attached to it.
quote: Krams' auctionGreat! Now, if Steve can find a source of parts to do this, he'll have at least one taker!
Note this can be converted to 35mm or Super 16mm
are most welcome .. but, to tell the truth, it was the first link that came up in Google. I did know part of the real history (that Barnum didn't say it, but didn't know who did) and it was interesting to read the whole tale.
quote:That IS "lightly used" for a Model C Printer. Remember, ONE large release of 2000 prints would likely be over 17.5 million feet of film. Most modern release printers run much faster.
Lightly used? At 1637 hours, that figures out to over 17.5 million feet of film!
quote: Ron YostUmmm yep! I almost asked Daryl to apply his MCM (Magical Condensing Machine) to that long-winded post!
Uh .. Phil .. you mean you actually read all of that?
quote:That ad really should say.... "Lightly Used and Rusting Away In Our Extremely Humid Florida Warehouse"
Lightly used? At 1637 hours, that figures out to over 17.5 million feet of film!
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quote: Eric WebbEric and Mark, I'm surprised that the auction ended without a single bid. It seems to me that $1300 for all that stuff was a good deal even if it did have a crappy AC induction motor rather than a sync motor.
Century MSA Model 35mm Film Projector & Soundhead




. I will keep it in a safer place from now on!quote: Richard FowlerNow you've got me interested, too. It isn't the university I work for, so I'm guessing it must be Leeds, Sunderland or one of the two Newcastle ones.
Dick, it was a University in Northern England which has studies in Cinema and Architecture...many transactions ago.
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quote: Joshua WaalandMy wife isn't all that technically inclined, but she knows something about the equipment that's moved through our booth. I showed her that Ebay ad. Her first reaction was something I can't print here. Her second was to ask how much of that old crap we still have laying around the place.
If this guy sells this Brenkert
quote:Ah, I see... they're rare 1600ft. 35mm reels.
(4) Used Vintage 1600ft 35mm reels. Reels measure 14 inches across.
quote:..until the snow flies down there and the city crews go crazy with the snow melt junk that they spred on the highways...both city and interstate.
Nothing in Utah rusts!
but a videogame system? And a SONY one at that!
quote: Mark GulbrandsenGreat! Make your own poor-quality dupes!
Night Of The Living Dead Composite 35mm Negative
out of their way!

.. go figure..)
quote: Jon Miller was the last to postI like this part..... "I added some splatters and a grunge effect." It certainly wouldn't have been authentic without that!
quote: Jon MillerThis stuff is probably what is left of the parts and inventory at Slipper Theater Supply... or some Strong employee that sneaks stuff out....
Leo, that reminds me of someone on this side of the pond who has repeatedly tried to sell a large lot of projector and automation parts and accessories including shutters, failsafes, and readers, without any success. After numerous tries, that guy has yet to offer the parts individually. That would make too much sense, eh?
quote: Stephen FurleySeveral of the now-defunct single-screen theatres in San Francisco were using CP100s at the time they closed in the mid and late 90's.
Is anywhere still using CP-100s?
quote: Steve GuttagWell, first off there can be no credible extra channels created from a mono sound source. Only pseudo channels can be created and they are in no way credible at all. All you get is a fuller sound from the extra two speakers brought into play... or should we say... a wide mono B chain.
In this way, combined with the comb filters in the KT-22 a more credible 3-channel system was created.
quote: Mark Gulbrandsenand I said you were WRONG (and still are).
Absolute crap excepting the stereophonizer
quote: Mark GulbrandsenEither the Stereophenizer is crap or it isn't. I personally never cared for it myself...what I pointed out is that it was the other box, the KT24 (or KT724 in the KT-700 series) that allowed it to do its trick better than others...that it steared dialog to center. By itself...it was a set of comb filters. The fact that it, with the KT-24 allowed it to mimick modern tracks (dialog hard center, music out of L/R and Surrounds) is where I made the claim of a credible psudostereo. Again, I'm not a fan of that...even for "fuller sound."
All you get is a fuller sound from the extra two speakers brought into play... or should we say... a wide mono B chain.
Kintek died a well deserved death and for a very good reason... all the products they produced were built like crap. I agree with what Louis said and also reprocessed mono is not what the Director intended when he did the mix.
quote: Mark GulbrandsenCouldn't agree more with you. Often I have been surprised by old mono mixes from the 1950s and 1960s on studio prints - totally different from mono sound on TV (compressed, denoised, pseudo-"stereophonized") or on video tape.
I agree with what Louis said and also reprocessed mono is not what the Director intended when he did the mix. This is also a pet peave of mine during supposed film restorations of old material that get the tracks reprocessed... What you end up with is not the original but a completely different version that was not intended by those that created the film! And definately not what watching the original was like.
quote: Steve GuttagI see the HF and LF trims on the 721 card, but I also have trims on the 750/780 combo boards. They are L HF/LF; C HF/LF; R HF/LF; S HF/LF , which I believe are Left Center Right and Surround, but since there is only one extender board and neither the 750/780 functions by itself, I don't know how one is suppose to be able to use these trims.
I don't think the KT700 ever had a proper manual...more of a text thing with some photocopies of PCBs with darkened areas to denote technican tunable controls (preamp, HF/LF).
Kintek wasn't into EQ but there were HF/LF trims located on the KT-721 board...the labels are in the foils so it shouldn't be too hard to locate. If I ever get around to it...I'll get my KT700 info posted to Brad.
The extender board should be located with the power supply on the left. I advise depowering the system whenever boards are removed/installed. One feature I did like is each board had its own regulator...thus a power supply board wouldn't take the system down (note each card had its own bypass button...of the dime store grade with extension sticks and genuine heat shrink...as another person has noted).
Steve
quote: Damien TaylorYeah, I'd keep an eye out for this guy
.... and some odd reels for SW episode III from this guy
quote: DamienNo one's forcing you to bid.
For 10 bucks I couldn't care less if I received 3 odd reels for Spy Kids. (of which a full copy appeared on eBay a few weeks ago) [Big Grin]
quote: Jim BedfordThis is the source of one of the many hilarious jokes in the movie "Blazing Saddles." Le Petomane is the name of the governor, played by Mel Brooks.
"Le Petomane", roughly translated the fart maniac, and worked his way up the comedy ladder until he was performing in 1892 he was a performer at the famous Parisian music hall, the Moulin Rouge.
quote:
70mm TRAILERS ARE VERY RARE BECAUSE THIS FORMAT WAS ONLY USED FOR DRIVE-IN THEATERS THAT COULD HANDLE THE HUGE PROJECTORS THAT THESE WERE USED FOR....
I did not know Dolby made a 70mm Projector!
. Its a huge beast!

quote:70mm my ass. that was digital projection, and as such was certainly not the hit of the 3d expo.
This lens is so sharp that the 35mm 3-D negative was blown up to 70mm with no loss of sharpness and was the hit of the 2006 3-D Expo in Hollywood. This lens is still state-of-the art 3-D.
quote:Unless you want to run The Simpsons Movie on it without an insane amount of cropping.
Sold as-is, but I'm sure you will be happy with it.
quote: Description from eBay auction cited aboveGee, I wonder why?
I plugged it in briefly to test it and it threw sparks and smoked and blew the circuit breaker.
I wouldn't have put that thing within ten feet of an AC outlet!
a tape splicer? Looks like a knockoff of a Griswald R2 wet splicerquote: Mike Blakesley...actually, the discs belong to the studios.
DTS shoulda bought them, then gone after the guy for theft
quote: John WilsonTrue, though it only takes a short trip back in time to notice how we've progressed.
You been to one lately? God, they're boring. Of course, sadly projection rooms are headed the same way.
quote: Jack Ondracekprob so and doing 2-trk playback.
Weren't those reels something like 90 minutes at 7.5 ips?
quote: Steve GuttagStations tended to stay away from the real thin stuff, Steve. Many playback decks had put a bit of voltage on the feed spindle, and a bit more initial voltage on the takeup for about a half second upon starting. I think our Ampex decks did this. Over time, it was enough to stretch the thinner tape a bit. Made for some wierd sounding song starts after awhile.
I have no clue what a station would have used in this sort of set up though.
quote: Jack OndracekThat explains The Bee Gees.
Over time, it was enough to stretch the thinner tape a bit. Made for some wierd sounding song starts after awhile.
quote: John WilsonNyuck!
That explains The Bee Gees.
quote: Monte L Fullmer?
Scotch 207 is great stuff being non-backcoated
quote: Frank AngelThanks, Frank. They're a mix. Just whatever was laying around in the production room at the time I happened to grab it.
Tim, what brand are your tapes?
quote:Well of course there isn't any vinegar (i.e. acetic acide) on a nitrate element!
NITRATE PRINT ---SOLD AS IS --NO REFUNDS---A REAL CLASSIC FROM 1946 NO VINEGAR
quote: Steve GuttagSteve, could you go into a little more detail on that point, plz? Would this happen in the middle of a show? What causes it when it does happen? DA20s are scarce. If this will work on a modern SR-D track, it might be worth looking into.
the dynamic loader could only work once...then it would crash the unit.
quote:
27 band third-octave equalization for optimum response from left, center, or right channel
Did he not see which slot he stole it from.
.quote: Phil HillIt's a Norelco cinema "camera," I see...
NORELCO FP-20
And the JJ a few posts back.
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quote: Steven J HartProbably just the magic wand tool...
I can't imagine taking the time to crop them all manually. Is there a photoshop plugin that will aid in that kind of work?
quote:Can't imagine Disney's lawyers allowing that!
How about this one.....You too can own a piece of cinema history and have the timeless classic "Roger Rabbit" for only $2,000 on 35mm!
quote:Humm... this has to be the cut down version... the print I had was seven reels!
How about this one.....You too can own a piece of cinema history and have the timeless classic "Roger Rabbit" for only $2,000 on 35mm!
quote:How do we know that is even the actual movie. You can't even see the names on the reels and just because it has the RR-1 taped on it doesn't mean it is Roger Rabbit.
How about this one.....You too can own a piece of cinema history and have the timeless classic "Roger Rabbit" for only $2,000 on 35mm!
quote:
I purchased this a few years back as an avid collector of cels and animation memorabilia along with other celluloid fims. Unfortunateley, I no longer have a 35mm projector and was never able to view the film.
quote:I thought 35mm Features sales on Ebay were now banned and how long this will be pulled by Disney who has a IT Department that monitor Ebay and other sites?
How about this one.....You too can own a piece of cinema history and have the timeless classic "Roger Rabbit" for only $2,000 on 35mm!
quote: Matthew BaileyA smaller table, maybe?
some students can't reach towards the middle of a table or even across it for what they want
quote: Jim CassedyThe problem with that thing is, you rest your foot on that bottom reel just once and it's gone. Everyone here knows how easily those flanges bend.
you can have a cheezy table made from a couple of old Goldberg shipping reels
quote:
Built for you! 110 Foot Man Made moveavle island. Build a casino or brothel on it and park it 12 miles off shore in international waters! Build your dreamhouse on it and sail around the world! Build a cool restaurant on it! Build your own Margarittaville! Make a marine biologist station! Be your own country! Park it in international waters and grow your own pot! Build a traveling renaissance festival! Built to order. 405.464.0325 Visit my website for more information http://www.theislandmaker.com For each island sold, I will donate one to growtheicecapproject.org
quote:He says he is legally blind and got his idea(s) while in prison.
Why not give mother nature a hand? By placing man made islands next to the arctic for the snow to fall on. The ice cap would actually begin to grow.
quote: Jim CassedyHmmm, doesn't say if it is an Abel, Baker or Charlie
Partial Old Cinerama Projection Head
....the flu bug is messing with my body at the moment.

quote: Jim BedfordI can't believe anyone would pay $786.00 for that mug... Arrgh!
Outrageously priced RIO LOBO coffee mug
?
quote: Richard FowlerYep! 5 to 1 to be exact. They work great for telecine work with a simple 5 blade shutter and sync drive motor.
The Powers movement allowed for fast pulldown for more light. The drawback was that required more maintinance....
quote: Joshua WaalandThe rules page on here is kinda long and wordy. I review it now and then looking for changes, but I've never been able to get through 100% of it without getting interrupted or just running out of reading time. It all boils down to simple common sense and "netiquette," for the most part.
How can someone go through the page of warnings and rules about posting to the for sale forum and not even read it?
quote:
Italian Bidders please note:
Due to extreme losses, we have to stress that we do not have the time to keep investigating
errors within your postal system. We will not accept claims for undelivered items.
Bid only if you accept the possibility that your item might not arrive.
quote:I'm scared to work another shift as manager now.
Aim Carefully When
Throwing At Managers!
quote:It should be up after the next update.
BTW: Please post your pic!
quote:And they weren't even quoting to ship it to Hawaii or Alaska! That would probably cost more than the machine...
Also, check out the shipping costs. JFC!
quote: PhileypooWell Phil you will be happy to know that the projector has been relisted with a new lower price! link
Another seller smokin' that I-30 stuff:
Simplex PR-1014
Also, check out the shipping costs. JFC!
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen on page 55 of this threadFour months later, he's still very much in the clouds with that very same $1995.00 piece of scrap iron, cheesy animation (complete with leader that counts down to 1) and all.
This guy is flyin high on something....
Very early Simplex Regular... Nice Photos
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quote: Mark GulbrandsenWhat the Seller really meant you can also use it to Anchor your Boat - as long he Galvanizes the Console
I love this line in the ad..."We will NOT leave you high and dry with a boat anchor that won't work, if you need a complete 35mm projection system for your theater, here it is."
quote: Jim BedfordOnly four years early - Eidophor.
You know, a 1939 video projector is quite rare.
quote: Ben WalesCome to think of it I have never "hand Cranked" anything but B&W through any hand cranked projector I've ever demoed... its kinda like running colour though one would be sacrilegious! Those projectors will of course also project hand tinted B&W footage
Did you know 35mm Hand Crank Projectors were B&W only
.quote:ebay...
It is called a video projector, but it is a film frojector,.. the company named the product, and used video projector for the product
quote: Jon MillerI don't think that's the original Eidophor; note that it's a colour machine. I think the original one is the one Hugh has a picture of on Cinephoto.
Interestingly, the original Eidophor was the first and only carbon-arc video projector.
quote: James WestbrookSo, if that's the case, then the antiques dealer should be prepared to offer him, what... at least $2,000 to $3,000 for it, and ensure himself a healthy profit?
An "antiques dealer" told him it was worth $12,500.
quote:Real RICH
this guy's gonna be RICH!
quote:WoW- The US/Canada currency exchange rate must be worse than I thought!
Bell & Howell 1581, 16mm projector... $12,500?!!
quote: Barry FloydI once worked for an AV equipment company and we too had dozens of these things that we took in "trade" from a school district when they upgraded all their classrooms to TV's & VCR/DVD players. They were worthless but we took them becuase we wanted their business. Many of them eventually wound up in a dumpster, but we also gave a few away to local film schools and employees who had 16mm film collections.
The Metro Nashville Public School surplus warehouse used to have hundreds of these things just sitting on shelves.
quote: Tony L. HernandezYes.
OT: Am I the only person who gets terribly annoyed when one calls REELS reals, wheels, or any other such bastardization of the word?
quote:(About 1/3 down the page, at the bottom of the description.)
Adults take note: Pony comes unassembled in box with head detatched. You may wish to not open the box around your children if they may be frightened by a box with a decapitated horse inside.

quote: Steve GuttagYeah I thought that was odd, I'm not sure what the deal is, everything is the right way around on the other side. The supersize picture also shows the archive standard, rusting film can.
Nitrate Film words were in WHITE with a black Eastman Kodak text behind it
quote: Phillip GraceThere are new pics with the soundtrack visible
Pity that he hasn't shown a section of film with the soundtrack visible.
quote:I sent an email to that seller warning him not to try it.
Someone on ebay has asked if the guy will burn a bit of it to see if it is flammable, and he is actually considering doing that. omigosh!
quote: Phillip GraceThe seller does say 'The film has had new academy leader and trailer added by the National Film and Sound Archive in Canberra when I lent it to them for copying in 1976.' This ties up with what you say about the copy being in the national collection, but it sems unlikely that such a copy would have been made on 16mm. Any national archive that would preserve a film by reducing it to 16mm, and possibly cropping it to the Academy frame area sounds like a very bad national archive! this seems highly unlikely.
Local knowlege has it that this print has already been copied to 16mm and the copy is in the national collection. The full height of the frame may or may not have been preserved.
quote: Monte L FullmerI've seen plenty of nitrate film that didn't have those marks. I can never remember which way round they are on nitrate and safety stock. When were these marks introduced; I have a feeling it was much later than the '20s, but I could be wrong.
What's interesting with all of this hoopla with this eBay page and images is that the film doesn't contain any of the horizontal lines that runs across from sprocket to edge on one side of the film that was printed on Nitrate stock.
quote: Phillip GraceWhich would be correct for De Forest Phonofilm, but the type of soundtrack wouldn't change on a dup, unless the track was re-recorded. 1925 certainly isn't the 'earliest sound on film' either, though it is obviously 'early'.
Variable density soundtrack on this version.
quote: John HawkinsonBecause I have done it, and even with doing it outdoors and trying to keep a good distance, I still managed to catch some of the fumes generated. And this guy wasn't going to do a PERF, he was talking a few frames.
So, why did you send "an email to that seller warning him not to try it"?
I have connections with an archive down here in L.A. so I'll leave the testing to the pros.
quote: Rick RaskinAhHA! Bet that upper magazine door was was left opened.
I was once in a nitrate fire and I remember seeing the film burn up into the upper magazine
quote: Frank AngelNot so. That is what in fact contained the fire. The lower magazine contained the first half of the reel and was unaffected. Its a long story why the fire trap rollers didn't stop the burn.
AhHA! Bet that upper magazine door was left opened.
quote: Tony Bandiera JrDid you read the Q&A on the item? Someone offered $400 and the knucklehead seller said he couldn't possibly let it go for that little as "this item is so rare and the true value of the item is $5,000+". Anyone else think this is a $50-$100 item?
On that 70mm Dreamflight reel, since it most likely was a large-format (8/70 or 15/70) there will be no sound and that roll they showed is probably only a few minutes of the total running time..the price is ridiculous too
quote: Damien TaylorDo a search here or Google it, you'll find all kinds of sites with pictures and info on all the large format films and equipment.
Is there a photo of 15/70 floating around, I gotta see what that looks like.
quote: aussie_daybillsYes, when they were actually worth something. Now they are not used in 99.999% of venues I'm pretty sure they are way overpriced.
i have listed them at $1000, which is about $3 per stick, as they are around $5 to $6 ea to buy today from theatre supplies....
quote: Cameron GlendinningFace the facts! He's asking $1000 USD for those carbons... thats rediclous! We can't give those away here in the States where even the teeny outback cinemas are running xenon. Re: The carpert... If it's been bought by a theater owner(read cheapskate!)then its crappy carpeting and he's selling those carbons to cover the cost of said carpeting! Probably no more than a couple of AU dollars per square meter at most.
Anyway I am actually far more interested in the clasic theatre carpet featured in the photo! I wonder how much he wants for it?
quote: John HawkinsonTrue, they dont, but a few of the studios (Disney especially) are monitoring these sales and if any of their new trailers gets posted on "eBone", they ask "eBone" to close down that auction and you get a repremand from "eBone" of posting copywrighted material and have to pass a test to continue to post on "eBone".
EBay does not shut down sales of trailers.
?
quote: Jim BedfordWOW, how much do you think you could get for that on ebay? $10,000+?
I have a mole on my calf that looks more like Texas than the cornflake.
quote:When you work with these products from STRONG as long as we have and have seen the craftmanship and reliability of these things, then you'll understand why we are so rough.
Man, you guys are rough!
quote: Robert PerezPerhaps, but don't let the EPA find out...there are toxic metals in a rectifier.
Well, maybe I need to list it under the Marine section on Ebay as a ship anchor, may have better luck selling it that way. [Smile]
quote: Monte L FullmerI would have said LACK OF craftmanship and reliability, but the point was well made.
When you work with these products from STRONG as long as we have and have seen the craftmanship and reliability of these things, then you'll understand why we are so rough.

quote: Monte L FullmerIt does help to have proper surge superssion... which I know you don't have there Monte... but....
if they were built and designed better, I wouldn't have lost a single one.
quote: Aaron GarmanNo idea, but the guy's smokin crack on the shipping!!
DTS Six?
What is THIS?
AJG
quote: Christos MitsakisAnd the seller wants $149 for this stuff.
3D stereovision

quote: Aaron GarmanWell, you know how drive failures are the biggest issue with old DTS units? This unit is designed to solve that problem, by not having drives, or any inputs or outputs except power. 100% reliable, maintenance free operation!
DTS Six?
What is THIS?

quote: Brad MillerRoger, Roger.
John, just truncate the end of the URL off after "item45982473518923"
quote: Monte L FullmerLast time I drove by Wagner they were still very much in buisness... shouldn't be a problem getting them... expensive though...
Wonder how many theatres around could use those big Wagner clip-on letters to replace the ones that are broken?
quote: Mike OlpinThere are no wires coming off the lens.
Actually all the wires coming off the front of the lense are intriguing.
quote: dipshit ePay sellerI'm not sure which of those sentences it's harder to believe.
I actually want to keep this because of its historic value. But I need the storage space and so here it is.
It was originally built and owned by INDUSTRIAL LIGHT AND MAGIC. It was developed and used on STAR WARS.
quote: John WilsonGee, I dunno.
How much do you like Michael Jackson?
quote: Ben WalesThe parts for those are now made from unobtanium. A Hollywood special effects guru just pulled his U-2 out of service because of the scarcity of unobtanium... He installed a rebuilt DP-70 in it's place. I also had to do many other mods to the DP-70 for him. Seriously... the U-2 projector weighs considerably more then a DP-70 does... It's much more difficult to lif tjust the head because it's smaller and you can't get enough people around it. An overhead crane or engine hoist is absolutely necessary!!! Nasty projector to move...
A Bauer U2 35/70mm Projector anyone?.
quote:Oh Flipping BROTHER!...
But on the plus side:
FILM GUARD!!
quote:guess we can't clean gate runners, sprockets, et.al. with FG.....
"Film Guard cannot be used to clean projectors"
quote:Boothsupplies.com is a division of General Theatrical Supply in SLC... my old work place.
But on the plus side:
FILM GUARD!!
quote: Brad MillerNOW you tell me.
just not the lenses
quote: The Grand Poo-BahBrad, I'd bet that FG would be great at removing the old nasty grease from Century gears.
Wow, they need to understand that FG is actually the best solution to clean projectors with (just not the lenses or gears, of course).
quote: Brad Miller..Yea, call them up and set them straight.
Wow, they need to understand that FG is actually the best solution to clean projectors with
or I can get you a pair for 7K.
No use or space for the console though.
quote: Scott NorwoodMost carbon-arc 16mm projectors (RCA Porto-Arc, Victor 1600 Arc, AmproArc and B&H FilmoArc, among others) used National Pearlex carbons, sold in 25-pair canisters containing 6mm x 8-1/2" positives and 5.5mm x 6" negatives (catalog no. L1700):
Does anyone know what size carbons this takes and if they are still available?

quote: Gordon McLeodMorgan also made the 16mm carbons, I've still got three boxes of them, but if anybody has any they want to sell, of either make, I might be interested.
Union Carbide was the only maker of the perlux trims
Not only was the size different but they were a low colour temperature to better match the timming of 16mm projection prints which is incadescent unlike tv prints that are timed for xenon
quote: Stephen FurleyYuk, like a warm yellow light output were we need between 4500 to 4800K temperature ...
It's very low, I would guess about 2700 - 2800K.
and rust is thrown in at no additional charge!)quote: Joshua WaalandWhat do you do when it doesn't sell for $75k even after you put it on ePay 3 times? You up the price to $95k of course. (Incredibly, it still didn't sell.)
Really? $75,000 for a Simplex XL and a crappy PC? REALLY?!
quote:Wow, what a deal, I better advertise my pair of Magnarc's that are sitting out in my shed, slightly less bird shit, but in nearly as nasty condition!
Or, if you're tired of always messing with those pesky, expensive, new-fangled xenon lamps, why not upgrade to carbon arc for the low price of $750 (the 45 years of collected pigeon and rust is thrown in at no additional charge!)
WHAT A BARGAIN, Where can I get two, just in case one breaks
...

quote: Joshua Waaland
They have to realize that this stuff is everywhere now and nobody except for suckers are going to pay that much for equipment that is soon to be obsolete.
quote:Exactly! One has to watch out for the sheisters in this buisness too! They'll get you once... unfortunately there are enough nice people out there that can be gotten once that sheisters manage to survive. Sad, very sad. Steve Hart's example quote is one of the best examples of someone taking someone to the cleaners that I've seen in a long while.
All this for the bargain basement price of $18,000! (Sure you can install it yourself) What a deal!!
SDDS 2000 System
quote:Suspicious. 1) If it's registered with the LOC, they should have a copy. 2) If it was filmed "on assignment" by an Army officer, it would have been produced by the US Government, making it public domain.
I own the copyright to this film, and it is registered with the Library of Congress. This is the only copy that exists. I am selling the original film and an original photo of Sgt. George T. Kerlin - the man that took the footage, along with all copyrights.
quote: Monte L FullmerThe description on the Ebay listing doesn't say that it's Super 8, but if it had, that would have been an instant red flag. Monroe died in 1962, and the Super 8 format was launched in 1965. Therefore, reversal original footage on Super 8 showing Monroe cannot exist. Any Super 8 element containing footage of Monroe has, by definition, to be a copy from a separate source.
... and on Super 8mm film? Smells like a good scam.
quote: Adam MartinThe issue there is the definition of 'on assignment'. If you license such footage from NARA, the small print will contain a copyright disclaimer to the effect that if someone claiming to be the copyright owner comes after you, the argument is between you and them to settle. About ten years ago the producers of a TV documentary (I think it was The Third Reich in Colour but could not swear to it) used some footage from a Kodachrome home movie taken by a US Air Force officer stationed in Germany of bombed out ruins in Berlin in the fall of 1945. They thought it was US Government footage, and thus PD, but the officer's son later claimed that he'd shot it with his own personal camera and film, on his own initiative and as a personal memento, not a public record: in other words, that he had not been ordered to make the film and therefore it was not done 'on assignment'. He had later given the film to NARA voluntarily, but no paperwork was signed regarding copyright.
2) If it was filmed "on assignment" by an Army officer, it would have been produced by the US Government, making it public domain.
quote: Leo EnticknapObviously this doesn't mean much, but the center hole in that reel denotes Super 8, not the Regular 8 standard. The picture isn't clear enough to see the perforation size to distinguish it.
Any Super 8 element containing footage of Monroe has, by definition, to be a copy from a separate source.
quote: Brad MillerIf you do the enlarge thingey on the eBone pict, you have a halfway decent shot to see the size of the sprocket holes - which are the smaller ones for Super8.
The picture isn't clear enough to see the perforation size to distinguish it.
quote: Adam Martin'nuff said.
If it's registered with the LOC, they should have a copy.
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