Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: It won't turn you blind and can prevent cancer

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Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 07-17-2003, 04:59 AM:

Take a look at :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072021.stm

I love this quote:

"If these findings hold up [Roll Eyes]

, then it's perfectly reasonable that men should be encouraged to masturbate," he said.

Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 07-17-2003, 06:00 AM:

Dick, it makes a lot of sense. I will spread the word. [Smile]

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 07-17-2003, 07:07 AM:

I gues one could call that "handy" information [Big Grin]

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 07-17-2003, 07:11 AM:

Who needs encouragement? Most guys know it's good to clean out the pipes to avoid blockage. [Big Grin]

>>> Phil

Posted by Christopher Duvall (Member # 284) on 07-17-2003, 08:05 AM:

I guess that is a good thing to know. Now where is that porn site I have been looking for... [Big Grin]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-17-2003, 02:31 PM:

This happens a lot with outside links. If anyone can get into that link posted above, please post the text from the article.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 07-17-2003, 02:59 PM:

Masturbation 'cuts cancer risk'
Men could reduce their risk of developing prostate cancer through regular masturbation, researchers suggest.
They say cancer-causing chemicals could build up in the prostate if men do not ejaculate regularly.

And they say sexual intercourse may not have the same protective effect because of the possibility of contracting a sexually transmitted infection, which could increase men's cancer risk.

Australian researchers questioned over 1,000 men who had developed prostate cancer and 1,250 who had not about their sexual habits.

This is a plausible theory
Dr Chris Hiley, Prostate Cancer Charity
They found those who had ejaculated the most between the ages of 20 and 50 were the least likely to develop the cancer.
The protective effect was greatest while the men were in their 20s.

Men who ejaculated more than five times a week were a third less likely to develop prostate cancer later in life.

Fluid

Previous research has suggested that a high number of sexual partners or a high level of sexual activity increased a man's risk of developing prostate cancer by up to 40%.

But the Australian researchers who carried out this study suggest the early work missed the protective effect of ejaculation because it focussed on sexual intercourse, with its associated risk of STIs.

Graham Giles, of the Cancer Council Victoria in Melbourne, who led the research team, told New Scientist: "Had we been able to remove ejaculations associated with sexual intercourse, there should have been an even stronger protective effect of ejaculations."

The researchers suggest that ejaculating may prevent carcinogens accumulating in the prostate gland.

The prostate provides a fluid into semen during ejaculation that activates sperm and prevents them sticking together.

The fluid has high concentrations of substances including potassium, zinc, fructose and citric acid, which are drawn from the bloodstream.

But animal studies have shown carcinogens such as 3-methylchloranthrene, found in cigarette smoke, are also concentrated in the prostate.

'Flushing out'

Dr Giles said fewer ejaculations may mean the carcinogens build up.

"It's a prostatic stagnation hypothesis. The more you flush the ducts out, the less there is to hang around and damage the cells that line them."

A similar connection has been found between breast cancer and breastfeeding, where lactating appeared to "flush out" carcinogens, reduce a woman's risk of the disease, New Scientist reports.

Another theory put forward by the researchers is that ejaculation may induce prostate glands to mature fully, making them less susceptible to carcinogens.

Dr Chris Hiley, head of policy and research at the UK's Prostate Cancer Charity, told BBC News Online: "This is a plausible theory."

She added: "In the same way the human papillomavirus has been linked to cervical cancer, there is a suggestion that bits of prostate cancer may be related to a sexually transmitted infection earlier in life."

Anthony Smith, deputy director of the Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society at La Trobe University in Melbourne, said the research could affect the kind of lifestyle advice doctors give to patients.

"Masturbation is part of people's sexual repertoire.

"If these findings hold up, then it's perfectly reasonable that men should be encouraged to masturbate," he said.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/3072021.stm

Published: 2003/07/16 23:11:15 GMT

© BBC MMIII

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 07-17-2003, 03:33 PM:

Well what if you have lots of real sex and don't masturbate? Are you doomed? The prostate cancer people should think about people who get it "for real" as well!

To quote Jay Leno:
"If masturbation prevented prostate cancer, there WOULD BE NO PROSTATE CANCER!"

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 07-17-2003, 07:38 PM:

I guess Filmtech should offer as a public service (in the interest of mens health) a porno site [Big Grin]

who knows maybe filmguad might find a new market [Cool]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-17-2003, 09:13 PM:

There's always www.philsexxxden.com [Big Grin]

Posted by Sean McKinnon (Member # 612) on 07-17-2003, 10:42 PM:

I guess I might just be the healthiest man alive then. [Big Grin]

Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 1016) on 07-17-2003, 10:52 PM:

Ew.

Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 07-18-2003, 09:41 AM:

Ha Ha. I should be well protected against prostate cancer too. It might be fun (and scary at the same time) to get a rough estimate of how many times you've done this in your lifetime. For example, if someone does this an average of every day over 20 years, that is 20 * 365 = 7300. Just multiply your daily average by the number of years and gives a pretty good ball-park estimate. :-) And I thought this was going to be a dull morning. Film-tech to the rescue! [Big Grin]

Another mathematical exercise is to multiply that number you come up with by the average volume of the output (can anyone find a number for that?). That will give you a pretty good approximation of the total you've output over your lifetime.

Note: It's somewhat dangerous to get a mathematician involved in discussions lihe this. [Smile]

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 07-18-2003, 12:35 PM:

Remember the group "10cc"? That's where the name came from. [Embarrassed]

Posted by John Spooner (Member # 1565) on 07-18-2003, 12:53 PM:

Dear Evans.
Trust you are well.
The mathematics of the output are quite surprising, we actually did these calculations some time back, we also used 10 cc as an average volume.
I also should have no prostate problems if the correlation between wanking and prevention are correct.
Assuring everyone that even Christians tug.
Best regards. John Spooner.

Posted by Evans A Criswell (Member # 381) on 07-18-2003, 01:25 PM:

10cc . Hmmm. Never knew that's where that group got that name. I have the song "I'm Not in Love" from May 1975 in my head now. What interesting trivia can come up from these discussions!

10cc is 10 ml, so 7300 * 10ml would be 73000 ml, or 73 liters (about 19.3 gallons). That's once a day for 20 years. 19.3 / 20 is 0.965. Just round it off to a gallon a year for an easy-to-remember ratio.

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 07-18-2003, 02:49 PM:

Heh heh, snopes says that origin of the 10cc name is an urban legend. All I know is that's what I heard back in 1977. [Big Grin]

Posted by Gerard S. Cohen (Member # 994) on 07-18-2003, 10:34 PM:

Whereas if research seems to show that masturbation may reduce the incidence of prostate cancer in men, might it not be worthwhile to undertake such research to see if such practice by females might reduce the incidence of uterine, cervical or ovarian cancer in women?

If so, would it not be encumbent upon us as Film-Techers
to gain the honor of initiating this inquiry by each contributing $1.00 to begin a foundation for such research?

Can't you just imagine the headlines?

---Gerard

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 07-18-2003, 11:01 PM:

I'm sure the headline would be something like

"Lonely projectionists stuck alone in a room with machines fund new research to validate their masturbation practices"

Posted by Mike Pennell (Member # 1692) on 07-19-2003, 03:31 AM:

so is that the secret ingredient to Film-Guard? [Big Grin]

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 07-19-2003, 04:00 AM:

Headline:

"The Projectionist's Friend helps them live longer"

>>> Phil

Posted by Mike Pennell (Member # 1692) on 07-19-2003, 04:05 AM:

hey, my barber uses one of those on me...i feel soiled and dirty [Frown]

oh well

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 07-19-2003, 11:25 AM:

So our residient math guru what then is the net output of the male population of northamerica then and which of the great lakes would it fill [Big Grin]

Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 07-19-2003, 03:06 PM:

quote:
Remember the group "10cc"? That's where the name came from.

As Paul later discovered earlier in this thread, the above is just that: an urban legend

If the band were named as such they would have been called '3cc' [Smile]

-Aaron

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 07-19-2003, 06:46 PM:

I do believe that one particular paper had the headline..

"HANDY WAY TO BEAT CANCER"

Sadly, cannot remember which one.

As for the practice, my betrothed has informed me that she has no problem with this whenever I want to go ahead and take the necessary steps to stop cancer... Just so that she can watch.

I would like to know the benefits of super clean pipes! If one could masturbate enough, could they then actually come up with a cure for cancer? Where would you inject it?

Ok, enough, I am starting to gross myself out. Besides, I have a gubenetorial run coming next year. It would be very unbecomeing of me if I just kept coming up with more things that I come up with.

HA [evil]

Dave