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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-26-2003, 11:31 PM:
Well, earlier today, I was packing up my pirate, err, I mean "experimental" radio station hardware in anticipation for the Texas trip to Brad's place. I set the main console on the kitchen counter along with the RE-20 mic and boom and the TT and CD player and the "cart" machines.
Running outta room, I temporarily set a box of 50 carts on my gas cooktop. I guess I must have accidentally bumped the knob and turned it on.
A few minutes later, I thought to myself... "Gosh, either Brad is here or something smells like cardboard burning." Upon investigating, I saw the flames! DAMN! Only QUICK action by yours truly saved my station, house, and all of Hollywood, as well as my ass from the fate that has been the doom of many jerks B4 me.
And come on, Jason! You know damn well I have a cute ass as shown in my last years xmas card. You are just jealous cuz I crossed you off this year's list!
>>> Phil
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-26-2003, 11:36 PM:
That sounds like something only a crazy coot would do!
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 10-27-2003, 11:29 PM:
Way to go "Success!"
But I'm glad you came out of it none the worse for wear save for a box of singed carts.
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 10-28-2003, 06:52 AM:
Phil I note in your signature that you say:
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Brad is mean because he won't change my forum name to Phil "Coot" Hill.
If you keep it up he will change it to "Boot" Hill.
Thereby changing your residence.
Posted by Jeff Stricker (Member # 224) on 10-28-2003, 07:55 AM:
Phil, sounds like you need one of those big RCA Ampliphase transmitters that Paul has been talking about to go with the studio gear. The RF induction heating from all that RF would melt your carts!
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-28-2003, 03:58 PM:
Hey Bob, that's not my doing.... The 1st 3 lines are some of my philosophies. The Grand-Poo-BAH posted that last line and then locked me out of my profile so I can't change it.
Jeff, I'm talking with the power company to bring in 3-phase to my house....
>>> Phil
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-28-2003, 05:32 PM:
I most certainly did nothing of the sort, coot!
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-28-2003, 06:10 PM:
Liar!
>>> Phil
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 10-28-2003, 06:30 PM:
"GLORY HOLES ARE FOREVER" ??
I look forward to your explaining that without offending delicate ears!
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-28-2003, 06:34 PM:
That ARSE Barbie!
Steve... I did NOT add that stuff to my sig.... My wholesome thoughts have been perverted by a pervert.
Let me write down why I hate Brad... I'll need a LOT of paper...
This is the message I get if I try to correct my profile...
quote:
FYI
Sorry, your profile has been specifically locked by the board administrators. This means that you may not make any changes to your registered profile information.
» Please use your browser's back button to return.
>>> Phil
Posted by Floyd Justin Newton (Member # 1316) on 10-28-2003, 07:13 PM:
Damn....here we go AGAIN !! . Batten down the hatches !!
fjn
Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 10-28-2003, 08:29 PM:
Will the real LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE Stand up!
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 10-28-2003, 09:57 PM:
Liar =
Geez Phil, don't make me get the Arse Kicker on you!
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 10-28-2003, 10:00 PM:
That's it. I'm coming down to kick Phil's ass.
Bob, if you're at the airport to meet my connection in New York, I'll bring some butter tarts.
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-28-2003, 11:04 PM:
OOOOOH DOS-Boy-Daryl, you are such a brute...and soooo manly, and forceful! You have me shivering in my boots.... I'm soooo scared, I'll prbably faint when I see you. Ummmm... not cuz I fear physical harm, but cuz of your looks!
BTW: Would you please explain "glory holes" to all of us less enlightened? Thanks!
>>> Phil
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 10-28-2003, 11:25 PM:
Well Phil, it's nice to know that you didn't burn yourself up!
Speaking of accidents... Sunday night I was helping my brother by drying & putting away the dishes he was washing. I was attempting to put a big ol' visionware pot away, something that normally had another pot sitting in it. In the process of setting one pot in another, the glass one broke, and sliced into my right thumb.
As I'm not a moron, I made fast tracks to the bathroom, and ran cold water over my thumb, and wrestled my watch off my wrist, when my mom had me turn my hand so she could see the damage, my adopted sister was nauseated by catching a glimpse of bone!
So one trip to the ER, and four stitches later...

On the bright side, considering the size and depth of the cut, I managed to not do nerve or tendon damage.
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 10-28-2003, 11:38 PM:
Clifford!
At any rate, I was taken quite aback at first glance of that photo. I immediately thought it was a photo of Phil half naked and wrapped in gauze and lost my appetite. I will never be able to eat Taco Cabana again.
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 10-28-2003, 11:42 PM:
Very astute. That is Clifford.
I have little siblings, and they insisted on a Clifford mousepad. (Never mind that the mouse is a track ball type.)
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 10-28-2003, 11:52 PM:
To quote Adam's favorite saying... "Whatever!"
Or Jason's/Josh's... "Sweet Jesus!"
Gracia, glad it wasn't too serious!
OBTW: Adam, YOU will STILL get a xmas card this year...
>>> Phil
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 10-29-2003, 08:43 AM:
Gracia: Hope your hand heals completely, without any after-effects. Glad that you didn't damage any nerves or tendons.
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 10-29-2003, 09:02 AM:
Same here. I broke my left thumb in this rail accident. I was thrown forward out of my seat in the impact, with the result that my hand was caught between my torso and the (metal) edge of the table in front of me. The thumb took 2-3 months to heal to the point at which it could take any weight. During that time, the splint it was strapped to was a real nuisance: it got in the way when I was typing, and I was half-way through writing up my PhD thesis at the time!
But that is a very trivial complaint, I guess. Several people died in the carriage in front of me, but even with the broken thumb I was able to climb out unaided. I've always sat facing backwards where possible in every train journey since, because in this scenario I would have been pushed backwards into my seat rather than against the table and therefore would have got out totally unhurt. The coroner noted in the inquest that almost all those who were killed or seriously injured were either standing or sitting facing forwards at the moment of impact.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 10-29-2003, 09:45 AM:
Glad you were not seriously hurt and on the mend
Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 10-29-2003, 05:19 PM:
i tend to sit forwards in trains whenever possible, but not for any safety reason. i generally prefer an approaching view over a receding one. if i see something of interest in the distance, i can examine it ever more closely as i near it until it disappears in passing. it's a feeling of embracing what's coming towards me, rather than grasping in futility at what's disappearing. gain vs. loss. living for tomorrow vs. wallowing in yesterday.
don't trains ever get rear-ended?
why is it that in airplanes (except air force one in movies) all the seats face forwards? wouldn't it be safer in a crash at takeoff or landing if they faced backwards? mirrors could be used to redirect the view.
carl
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 10-29-2003, 11:52 PM:
I guess I should also count myself lucky in the fact that I am left handed!
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 11-03-2003, 07:54 PM:
Yes being a lefty has its advantages, I usually screw up my right hand much more often than my left.
On the other hand, all guitars are right handed, lefty versions being harder to find. Oh well, such is life.
Phil, what kind of cart machines did you have?
Josh
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 11-04-2003, 01:59 AM:
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don't trains ever get rear-ended?
I suppose if a stationary train were rear-ended, then you'd be better off facing forward because it would, in effect, accelerate, thereby pressing you into your seat. But if it were rear-ended while in motion (e.g. by another train baring down on it, only faster) then presumably damage from the impact would cause a rapid deceleration (especially if your train came off the rails), so again you'd be better off facing back.
An safety expert told the inquest after the accident I was in that fitting seat belts on train seats would have saved many more lives than the electronic safety system preferred by the government and rail safety activists, at about a quarter of the cost. Yet four years and several major train crashes later, still no seat belts. You couldn't force people to wear them, but I wouldn't mind having the option.
Posted by Bernard Tonks (Member # 809) on 11-04-2003, 04:39 AM:
Leo,
Sorry to read that you were on that dreadful Paddington disaster train. My brother was in a Western region train crash and survived uninjured, tragically three of his working colleagues near him lost their lives.
Hope Gracia is on the mend. Not doing so well myself, have recently fallen and broken my wrist, and cracked a bone in the other one. Also badly bruised my cheek bone and had a real shiner black eye.
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 11-04-2003, 12:05 PM:
Film-Tech: Home of the "Walking Wounded".
Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 11-04-2003, 10:25 PM:
Zoinks! Take it easy there Bernard!
Yup, I'm on the mend, my stitches are out.
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-05-2003, 02:24 PM:
Josh, only some carts were damaged...I still have the machine. BE model 900 I think. It's been a good reliable machine.
>>> Phil
Posted by Ron Yost (Member # 1850) on 11-05-2003, 10:15 PM:
Hey Phil, I see you have an early Simplex 8-track machine too!
Ron Yost
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-05-2003, 10:32 PM:
Good eye Ron. I just snapped the pic of the cart machine for Josh without really looking to see what else was there.
(It's actually only a 4-track...35MM)
>>> Phil
Posted by Luciano Brigite (Member # 1104) on 11-05-2003, 10:43 PM:
One of the carts on top of the machine has "burning down the house" written on the label
(I know the song exists but don't remember who made it
)
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-05-2003, 10:49 PM:
Heya L! That's funny!
(I think the artist was Talking Heads)
>>> Phil
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 11-06-2003, 12:59 AM:
I see you also have an audio arts board as well. We have abunch of those up here. I dont really like them, they are ugly
As for carts, I have ITC series 1's, they were made in the early 90's
Josh
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-06-2003, 01:12 AM:
Ugly is good... I'm ugly and I'm good. Daryl told me.
Just trying to answer your "cart" question.... Also, this is a hobby, not a commercial venture...funds are limited...
I am thinking of junking that board and getting a "real" board with rotary pots... I hate sliders!
I have 2 ITC playback units somewheres... I like the BE better. It too was made in the early 90's.
>>> Phil
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 11-06-2003, 03:51 AM:
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Yes being a lefty has its advantages, I usually screw up my right hand much more often than my left.
On the other hand, all guitars are right handed, lefty versions being harder to find.
Play a right-handed guitar upside-down, like Albert King.
http://entertainment.msn.com/artist/?artist=102060
One of my favorite quotes:
Mike Bloomfield is playing & says to the crowd to welcome a young man who's new to the band & is going to jam with him now! Bloomfield is up onstage playing with the new guy, who turns out to be ... Jimi Hendrix; Bloomfield says all he could do was think -- "I wish I were Albert King..."
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am thinking of junking that board and getting a "real" board with rotary pots... I hate sliders!
One of those big, near vertical 10 channel RCA boards with Mae West bakelite pots, manly lever switches, & the little RCA meatball in the center cue speaker!
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I have 2 ITC playback units somewheres...
Ugh...you want one of those McKenzie's with the remote paper-towel roll-like loops in a remote unit.
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 11-06-2003, 05:03 AM:
Thats cool, wanna trade
I got a 1970's Harris stereo 80 I got from Paul that I tried to modify for line input on the mic channels and I think thats about it. I dont necessarily hate rotary boards, this one is just really old and decrepid.
Josh
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 11-06-2003, 09:11 AM:
To answer the question that Josh asked in Dallas: my cart machine is a BE 3200RP. It's the mono version, though it looks like the guts of it are the same as the stereo version...just missing the right-channel record amp, repro amp, and stereo head stack.
Phil: I guess I'm not the only one crazy enough to prefer rotary pots to sliders. I've never done any real radio work, but I was under the impression that most broadcast consoles used rotary controls. (No?)
Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 11-06-2003, 10:56 AM:
Not anymore. all our stations, and infact everyone but those who cannot afford to already have slider pot consoles.
Josh
Posted by Paul G. Thompson (Member # 655) on 11-06-2003, 11:14 AM:
Up here, we call the rotary pot consoles "Twisters". We have twister boards in the KBRC control and production rooms. Both of them are Autograms which were manufactured in Plano, Texas.
The KAPS control room and production room are sliders.
My Audio Technica ATC1220 I have had for at least 10 years at home is a slider, and it performs well. My other board (a Ramsy WH-212) is also a slider. That is my kick-around board I use in political gigs sponsored by the radio station. I have had issues with the slider pots in that board. The thing I don't like about the sliders is that the pots are very suseptable to getting noisey due dirt getting into them in dusty enviroments. Although this does happen, I came across a contact cleaner that is quite effective (and expensive) that corrects the problem. I squirted that stuff into the noisey sliders, and it corrected the problem.
Josh, I'll bring a can of that stuff with me during the Holiday Season. Supposedly, it is supposed to do wonders with the twisters, too. (But I never needed to try it).
One thing I like about the sliders....they are much easier to use if something has to be potted up quickly in event of a mis-cue or something of that nature.
Josh, if you could ever get that Autogram I gave you working, it would be a much nicer board than that old Harris. I would think you could get the two VU meters from Mouser that will work. They look like a nominal size meter. The nice thing about the Autograms are the remote starts...
I have an old AMPRO 6-pot twister. A real POS!!! If any of you guys want it, pay the shipping and you can have it.
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-06-2003, 12:44 PM:
Actually I'll probably keep the AA board, Josh. It's about 12 y/o and has worked great. 12 line/mic A/B channels, Penny & Giles sliders, R/L meters for both pgm & aud buses, phone loops, digital timer, remote tape controls, etc. I got it from a holy roller station that was upgrading. I only use holy water to clean it.
Paul, that Ampro has those cool Mae West bakelite knobs (as William calls them)
>>> Phil
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 11-06-2003, 02:45 PM:
I don't think there's a station up here that uses rotary pots. Anybody who does use them is clearly insane.
I usually clean sliders with alcohol when I disassemble the board for cleaning. Of course boards should be covered when not in use to keep out the dust, but that's not possible when they're in 24hr use. In that case, I wouldn't want to be working in an environment that has enough dust to cause an issue with the sliders.
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 11-06-2003, 03:17 PM:
keep out dust I aways understood a good bath of beer kept them clean
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-07-2003, 07:58 PM:
Hey Daryl, you need a new ID pic. You look much better in person than the POS pic of you with your Fisher-Price "My 1st Computer" ...ages 6-10... in the background.
>>> Phil
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 11-17-2003, 06:47 AM:
Classic Sparta consoles, available now on eBay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2572182325&category=23785
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3363210831&category=1478
Plug 'n' play 'n' pour a Coke in it!
These may be the pre-Coked models.
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