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Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 12-09-2003, 02:25 PM:
 
From the American Cinematheque's latest press release:

THE 4th GREAT BIG 70 MM FESTIVAL!!
January 22 - 25, 2004
From Super Technirama 70 to Ultra Panavision to Dimension 150 and
more, the 70 mm. large-screen format promised - and delivered - a
Barnum-esque world of spectacular sights and 6-track sounds. If the
movies were always larger-than-life, then 70 mm. movies were MUCH much
larger - films ..... From 1955 to 1970 - the Golden Age of 70 mm.
Filmmaking - there were nearly 60 Hollywood features shot in large
format, with many more released in special engagements as 35 mm.-to-70
mm. blow-ups (which still offered superior sound and image quality to
their 35 mm. counterparts.)

This semi-annual series is a very rare opportunity to experience 70
mm. as it was meant to be seen: on a big, beautiful screen, with
booming, 6-track multi-channel sound. Following the success of our
past Festivals, we're delighted to present gorgeous new restorations
of two seminal 70 mm. films: Jacques Tati's' masterpiece PLAYTIME (not
to be missed!), the restored Todd AO print of Ken Annakin's THOSE
MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES; as well as new prints of the
sumptuous musical HELLO DOLLY! and Stanley Kramer's IT'S A MAD, MAD,
MAD, MAD WORLD. And don't miss the rare screening of Walt Disney's
landmark film SLEEPING BEAUTY !

Thursday, January 22 - 7:30 PM 70 MM
New Restored 70mm Print!!
PLAYTIME, 1967, Criterion, 155 min. Dir. Jacques Tati.

Friday, January 23 - 7:30 PM 70 MM
New Restored 70mm Print!!
PLAYTIME, 1967, Criterion, 155 min. Dir. Jacques Tati.

Saturday, January 24 - 5:00 PM 70 MM
New Todd-AO 70mm Print!
HELLO DOLLY!, 1969, 20th Century Fox, 146 min. Directed by Gene Kelly

Saturday, January 24 - 8:15 PM 70 MM
New Restored 70mm Print!!
PLAYTIME, 1967, Criterion, 155 min. Dir. Jacques Tati.

Sunday, January 25 - 1:00 PM 70 MM
Children's Matinee:
SLEEPING BEAUTY, 1959, Walt Disney Co., 75 min.

Sunday, January 25 - 4:00 PM 70 MM
Brand new restored Todd-AO 70mm Print!!
THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES, 1965, 20th Century
Fox, 133 min. Discussion following with director Ken Annakin

Sunday, January 25 - 7:30 PM 70 MM
New 70mm Print!
IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD, 1963, MGM/UA, 154 min.
 
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 12-09-2003, 02:55 PM:
 
Drool. [Cool]

I'm in Los Angeles January 12-14 for the annual ITEA Projection Seminar Series, but can't extend the trip to see these great films projected as "Film Done Right" by Paul Rayton and crew. [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Dick Vaughan (Member # 540) on 12-09-2003, 03:54 PM:
 
Michael

Just make sure all the forward shipping labels are changed to:

Pictureville Cinema
NMPFT
Bradford England

[beer] [Wink]
 
Posted by Jeffry L. Johnson (Member # 453) on 12-09-2003, 04:38 PM:
 
Bummer. I'll be about 3/4 of the way there, but I'll be busy in Park City.
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-09-2003, 04:47 PM:
 
No amend that shipping label Dick to read

VIA Ontario Place Cinesphere
955 Lakeshore Blvd West
Toronto
Ontario Canada
for extended run [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 12-09-2003, 05:49 PM:
 
"Extended Run" Watch out! Ontario Place is like a black hole for prints. [Smile]
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 12-09-2003, 06:01 PM:
 
don't worry they need to be climatized before shipping overseas [Smile]
 
Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 12-09-2003, 06:30 PM:
 
No George? (Think D-150) Hrrrmph.
 
Posted by Dan Lyons (Member # 1454) on 12-10-2003, 01:35 AM:
 
I'll be there to see "Hello Dolly", as I missed it last year. I heard many good things about that print.

Too bad they didn't chop out the song that the lady sings in the hat shop; that dubbed over vocal would make a cat hiss!! [puke] What were they thinking! It's so obvious and fake!!

Danny
 
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 12-10-2003, 02:09 AM:
 
What's the Egyptian like now? I read that it was greatly remodeled for the American Cinematheque. What are the auditorium specs: Screen size, size of auditorim from screen to back wall, etc. Greg Mueller (I think) mentioned sitting in the balcony at Jeff Joseph's 3D extravaganza, I suppose the booth is still in its original position?

I read that some of the floor was partitioned from the auditorium to create restaurant space or something. This is not so strange, since the Egyptian was originally a silent-era house & possibly had no partition between the back of the house & entry points like foyers, etc. Those type of houses have at some point *had* to have partitions installed for sound isolation.

Who's that guy who is impersonating Dan Lyons & cashing his checks & all? He's doesn't even look like Dan; who is he trying to fool? Is Dan like tied up in a closet, or dumped out in the wilderness somewhere? California is scary.
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-10-2003, 09:56 AM:
 
William, here's a link to a series of articles on the Egyptian Theatre remodeling.
http://www.volume5.com/egyptian/intro.html
 
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 12-11-2003, 12:57 AM:
 
So the only "restoration" was in the forecourt.

quote:
however, its most distinctive feature, the elaborate proscenium, was removed almost three decades ago.
I thought I remembered that it was just widened by removal of some of the inner portion of decorative features like columns.

It's interesting how these things are spun hard to conceal things that lead to unwelcome questions:

quote:
The perforated, low-relief sunburst which reaches into the blue ground of the ceiling will become the chief historic decorative feature of the auditorium.
Well, it's the organ grille, the Egyptian's organ was over the prosc, the grille was decorative as they all were unless the organ was located under the stage. I think I read somewhere that some folks are trying to get an organ back in there, but for silent shows they've used an electronic organ (a "toaster", as electronic organs are called in the scornful vernacular).

They excavated under the balcony for the new construction; what did they do to the balcony? It's conspicuously unmentioned. Is it all demo'd & new office space constructed for the people who made their money off it?

They sure worked hard pointing out bits that were "restored" (some exterior), "preserved" (now hidden & mechanical spaces), & "rehabilitated" (completely remodeled). The only "historic" inner part visible is the organ grille & some sections of the walls when the panels are retracted, otherwise, it's a college drama dept. black box theater? It's sure not the Castro or Oakland Paramount.
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-11-2003, 01:16 AM:
 
William,

I never saw a balcony at this theatre until the current redo. If there was a balcony originally, it was closed up and plastered over decades ago. The procenium was also completely removed (not even one pillar visible)since at least the 50's. I saw a number of films on the theatre's D-150 screen. The deep curving curtains and screen occupied the whole front of the semi pie-shaped auditorium. At this time, the projection booth was downstairs, literally a black box at the rear of the theatre. In its newest incarnation, the lobby was expanded considerably into the old theatre, with an additional small theatre situated in part of the lobby (the Steven Spielberg theatre). The main theatre features a balcony and the new projection room is located in the balcony. Entrance to the balcony is from staircases entered after entering the entrance doors of the auditorium (but before you hit the seating area). The seating is now a stadium configuration.

And yes, it is a black-box theatre. But an extremely good one.
I plan to see THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES in January there.
 
Posted by Dan Lyons (Member # 1454) on 12-11-2003, 06:33 PM:
 
I tried taking some pics inside of Graumans Egyptian last time i was there, no luck. My digital cam doesn't like the low light levels inside. You'd think the people at the American Cinemateque would have tons of pics up on their site to entice people to go check it out, but no.

Someone with a good cam go there ASAP!

Danny
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-11-2003, 09:44 PM:
 
The American Cinematheque will also be showing a 70mm print of VERTIGO the week before this fest as part of their tribute to Kim Novak.
 
Posted by Dan Lyons (Member # 1454) on 12-13-2003, 04:19 AM:
 
quote:
Who's that guy who is impersonating Dan Lyons & cashing his checks & all? He's doesn't even look like Dan; who is he trying to fool? Is Dan like tied up in a closet
I've got enough people in my closet as it is!! No more room...
Hope to see some of you at the Egyptian.

Danny
 
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 12-15-2003, 02:32 AM:
 
quote:
I never saw a balcony at this theatre until the current redo. If there was a balcony originally, it was closed up and plastered over decades ago.
On this page linked to the one you posted
http://www.volume5.com/egyptian/4.html
is mentioned
"The east half of the below-balcony area, then, will be lobby space with a concession stand and access to the main auditorium and the screening room. The screening room, with about 70 seats, will occupy the west half of this "below balcony" space and will require some excavation."
and
"Since there will no longer be main-auditorium seating in the "below-balcony" area,"

quote:
The procenium was also completely removed (not even one pillar visible)since at least the 50's. I saw a number of films on the theatre's D-150 screen. The deep curving curtains and screen occupied the whole front of the semi pie-shaped auditorium.
My recollection was that the proscenium was altered for Cinemascope, & then the D-150 screen was installed in front of what remained & drapes hung over everything at the sides. "Removal" would not be clean or easy or economical or the way it's ever been done!
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If you look at the plan view of the theater on the page linked above, you can see that these combination houses were essentially two buildings: The auditorium, & the stage house. They are two buildings between which is the most monster firewall imaginable - poured concrete 1 to 2 feet thick.

The bizarre thing is that these theaters were already built inside another building. Look at the plan view; you can see the funnel shape of the auditorium shell, & then outside of it the square shape of the building shell itself. If there were a section view, you would see the top of the theater suspended from the top of the shell above. Uninformed people just see them as empty spaces, but they just see the auditorium. Folks don't see what things are, how they work, or if something they don't know "is anything". A theatre is a machine installed inside a shell, & it really is most obvious in these older ones that did more.

You have a shell, then you build a cellular theater in it. If you want, you can take the theater out, you have the shell again to do something with: like complete it with offices like the rest of the building (as in the NY Paramount).

If they wanted to build a new theatre & just needed a shell to start with, a better choice would be almost anything else already standing that's just a shell. (First thing to mind would be an old department store: examples from the 1800s to 1940s were large, open, square, easily built in, lots of decorative & historic-y detail.)

But the Egyptian is weird. You can see how it got that way by following the blindered thought processes like looking at a decades-old rat's nest in an equipment rack of added equipment over the years. Okay, we'll save the theatre! But we want a different design theatre! Okay, we'll build it inside the theatre! What's been saved? The front yard & the organ grille on the ceiling. A new theatre has been built; the old theatre has been buried. It's not like a massive rehab of an existing theatre, like Powell Hall. You have to understand the progression of disjointed thinking from "save historic theatre" to "build theatre in building".

I'm all for building excellent new theatres & also saving old ones, but the result is not so much ill-conceived as it is crazy. Instead of just a theater built in a shell, you've got this Chinese nesting boxes thing. It additionally results in the strangest hoops to jump through like having to extend it into the stage house. And what's in the fly tower above the new auditorium cell? Can it be used?

quote:
I plan to see THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES in January there
Woo hoo! On the same day with IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD, both in 70mm! I'd like to be sitting there all day with 20 boxes of Chocolate Stars and a 50 gallon drum of Sprite!

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Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-15-2003, 03:23 AM:
 
quote:
Removal" would not be clean or easy or economical or the way it's ever been done!
Nevertheless, it was done in this case.
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 12-15-2003, 10:03 PM:
 
quote:
Brand new restored Todd-AO 70mm Print!!
THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES

Those Magnificent Men... is scheduled for release on DVD March 16, 2004. The driving force behind much of the restoration work done today is the successful DVD format, and I think it is great that new prints are being struck for many of the films (particularly high-quality large format prints of titles originally produced in large format).
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-16-2003, 10:48 PM:
 
BTW, a thank you for Michael Coate for publishing this schedule so early. I knew a 70mm weekend was coming up sometime in January, but was afraid I was going to miss it due to a mandatory weekend series of meetings in San Jose. The meeting was actually scheduled for this same weekend. However, good Karma must have been in the air, because the meeting was switched to the King holiday weekend just BEFORE Coate ran the schedule with the actual weekend of the event.

So that gives me the opportunity to catcvh Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines and IAMMMMW in the same day (I can skip SLEEPING BEAUTY since I saw it at the El Capitan recently).
 
Posted by Thomas Hauerslev (Member # 566) on 12-17-2003, 03:05 AM:
 
On this page, I list all upcoming 70mm screenings that is made known to me.

http://www.in70mm.com/newsletter/diverse/screenings.htm
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 12-27-2003, 10:38 PM:
 
The 155 minute version of PLAYTIME has been revised on the calendar. The running time now given is 126 minutes.
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 01-21-2004, 11:57 PM:
 
Well, the festival begins tomorrow (today by the time most of you read this)! Any film-techers planning to attend?

I'll be there for most of the shows. In addition, Bill Kallay and I will have a 70mm-themed display in the theatre lobby. So if any of you guys attend, look for the display and, if you recognize me, stop by and say hello.
 
Posted by Thomas Hauerslev (Member # 566) on 01-22-2004, 02:02 AM:
 
Don´t forget The Widescreen Weekend in Bradford is also very near. Program is very exiting with lots of rare 70mm surprises this year.

In 2004 the Widescreen Weekend celebrates the cinematic wonder of VistaVision with several titles including "Vertigo". Other titles planned for the weekend which, may run for four-and-a-half days, include "It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" and "Hamlet", all in 70mm.

Will publish full program on in70mm.com soon
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 02-13-2004, 07:25 PM:
 
So didn't ANYBODY make it to the festival to give a report?
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 02-13-2004, 07:38 PM:
 
quote:
So didn't ANYBODY make it to the festival to give a report?
Yes, I attended. I saw all of or portions of every film.

I planned to write a brief article for in70mm.com but, unfortunately, have been dealing with some important work deadlines and it has had to wait. If you ask a specific question here I will try to answer.
 
Posted by Dan Lyons (Member # 1454) on 02-14-2004, 02:13 PM:
 
Ok, i have a question.

How was "hello dolly"? I've missed that one the past 2 years in a row now, damn! Was it still in good shape, or has it been messed up. [Confused]

Danny
 
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 02-14-2004, 02:35 PM:
 
I watched "It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World". The picture quality was very good, but for me the film was too long and silly. I was a little relieved when it was over.
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 02-14-2004, 06:34 PM:
 
Michael S,

Did the theatre accomnodate for the wider UP70 ratio? Or were they cropping off the sides of the image?
 
Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 02-15-2004, 03:12 AM:
 
No, everything was there.
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 02-23-2004, 12:50 PM:
 
quote:
How was "hello dolly"? I've missed that one the past 2 years in a row now, damn! Was it still in good shape, or has it been messed up.
It looked spectacular. Print was destined for Austin, Texas following the fest.

All of the prints appeared to be in great shape. That shouldn't be a surprise since they were all (except for Sleeping Beauty) brand-new or recently struck. Sleeping Beauty was Disney's archival print struck in the mid-1990s. It's been screened a few times and has begun to show some wear.

Play Time was a print based on last spring's restoration and French re-release. Interesting film that's worth checking out if you get the chance. (It's on DVD from Criterion, but in mono and with, I think, a shorter running time than this latest print.) Despite a bunch of conflicting info "out there," Play Time appears to have been shot in 65mm but printed with mattes on the sides of the frame (in 70mm prints) resulting in an approximate 1.85:1 ratio. Sound was DTS, front channels only, no surround.

All of the prints in this year's fest were 70mm-DTS, except for Sleeping Beauty which was 70mm-mag (Dolby A).

quote:
Did the theatre accomnodate for the wider UP70 ratio [for It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World]? Or were they cropping off the sides of the image?
The masking was adjusted vertically to achieve the wider ratio.
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 02-23-2004, 04:01 PM:
 
Does the Todd-AO screen credit for Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines read: "Produced in Todd-AO" or "Filmed in Todd-AO"?
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 02-23-2004, 04:08 PM:
 
quote:
Does the Todd-AO screen credit for Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines read: "Produced in Todd-AO" or "Filmed in Todd-AO"?
Neither. The on-screen billing reads "Photographed in Todd-AO."
 
Posted by Paul Linfesty (Member # 214) on 03-10-2004, 12:26 AM:
 
quote:
My recollection was that the proscenium was altered for Cinemascope, & then the D-150 screen was installed in front of what remained & drapes hung over everything at the sides. "Removal" would not be clean or easy or economical or the way it's ever been done!
This picture and article shows that it was indeed done this way:

http://cinerama.topcities.com/Egyptian.htm
 
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 03-11-2004, 01:13 AM:
 
I concede; they pulled a lot down, as well as filling in the pit. It's hard to tell from the photo; I wonder if they broke out the firewall, enlarging the proscenium opening? What a monster job retaining all that while building in it.
 




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