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Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 05-10-2004, 03:39 PM:

Preliminary information is that I am going to get 7 prints total of Shrek 2. (Yes one will be DLP)

This will make scheduling showtimes about 15-20 minutes apart ALL day.

Word is that this may possibly happen with Spidey 2, and Harry 3 too. [Frown]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-10-2004, 07:06 PM:

AWESOME! I must come visit the Cinemark Legacy 3 during that.

By the way, you do realize you're doing it all wrong, don't you? Let me come up there and set up one print of Shrek running through all 7 screens in a non-stop loop for ya!!! At least you wouldn't have to worry about a brain wrap since all of it would be on rollers. We can just turn your entire booth into a loop cabinet! [Big Grin]

Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 05-10-2004, 10:31 PM:

I have an 11 screen location here in Maryland.

This Friday is:

3 prints of Troy
3 prints of Van Helsing
2 prints of New York Minute
(I can't remember the other three films)

We open three prints of Shrek 2 next week.

Those outta be interesting bookings....

I'll be runnin a 4 plex....

Posted by Chris Liczbinski (Member # 1957) on 05-11-2004, 02:56 AM:

We are a part of this too at our Cinemark in Grand Prairie, just south of Dallas- we are guessing 5 prints for our 15 screen. We are booked for harry potter but do not know for sure about spiderman yet. I read that some of these prints might leave within the first week or two of the run...

Posted by Per Hauberg (Member # 529) on 05-11-2004, 03:28 AM:

Yeah - Everything is bigger over there. -I just hope to get one Shrek print to run from the first day. Normally, on the big commercial titles, about one third of all danish cinemas are running first runs, while the rest must wait for a print to get free (and worn).
How is this in the States ? How many first-run theatres of out how many in total ?

Per

Posted by Paul Konen (Member # 41) on 05-11-2004, 09:36 AM:

Brad, that would be awesome. [thumbsup]

I do expect to be down to about 8 titles at most. Currently at 17.

There was a mention that the booking dept is doing aggregate deals rather than term so that both exhibitor and distributor get most of the money up front. (Only allows for a print to disappear faster for the DVD release [Confused]

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Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 05-11-2004, 03:32 PM:

A little off topic, but the number of prints these theaters are recieving is totally insane. There's no way the labs are going to be putting out decent products when they having to make a kagillion prints.
And on the exibition side, we all know for a fact that more than just a few theaters will just slop these prints together because they have 1 poor sap trying to build up all 8 prints in 1 night, and of course they won't get pre-screened either [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 05-11-2004, 03:42 PM:

I think the number of prints is just going to increase, especially in the summer.

The summer now is one big film after another...each week, something bigger that the last is released. By increasing the number of prints, they can assure that everyone who wants to see the film opening weekend will have a seat and make the studio a few extra dollars.

Also, by pushing the first week of release, they can attract people through advertising instead of word-of-mouth. Advertising can make a bad film look good, and build up an expectation on the part of the intended audience. That way, you make your money before the public realizes what a terrible movie it is.

Posted by Nate Lehrke (Member # 1460) on 05-12-2004, 01:48 AM:

Is Shrek 2 opening WED May 19th or FRI May 21st? I see a local theatre here has tickets on sale for the 19th?

Posted by John T. Hendrickson, Jr (Member # 849) on 05-12-2004, 06:33 AM:

It's a Wednesday opening.

Posted by Chris Liczbinski (Member # 1957) on 05-12-2004, 07:00 AM:

Looks like we will be getting 6 prints of shrek at our 15 screen-at least that is doable for me to build up and have enough people to pre-screen. As some of you mentioned earlier I can now only hope all 6 prints are of good quality from the lab.
When did Dreamworks change the opening day? I went to their site yesterday and after the home page and clicking the movies link it says Shrek 2 may 21, once you click that it brings you to a page saying Shrek 2 only in theaters may 19- our booking department says they knew as of last Friday but they did not tell us so we had to go back and change our floor staff drastically!

Posted by Josh Jones (Member # 447) on 05-17-2004, 01:32 AM:

3 of em up here

Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 05-17-2004, 08:15 AM:

2 at my 14, 1 at my 8

Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 05-17-2004, 08:24 AM:

Just one, but if there are too many people, I can always interlock it. [thumbsup]

Posted by Chris Medley (Member # 2145) on 05-17-2004, 09:07 AM:

4 at my humble little Movies 14

I am sure all of you have done this...but if not I would suggest putting up something on your marquee about Sherk 2 opening on May 19th, many people still think it will be the 21st

Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 05-18-2004, 01:40 PM:

The 8 Plex I work at got 2 crisp prints from Technicolor.
I just finished assembling them.....every reel was HEADS UP!!!!!

GO TECHNICOLOR!!!!! [Big Grin]

I am now a MASTER film handler!!! woooo

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 05-18-2004, 01:54 PM:

I'm sure the prints were fine, but you DID inspect them as you made them up onto your platters, didn't you? [uhoh]

I still prefer to receive the reels tails out, inspect them on the rewind bench as you splice them onto 6000-foot reels, then wind them onto the platter.

If you can still find one, a Kodak Mini Slide Viewer is a great accessory for the booth when you want to look at the film by transmitted light: [Cool]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000052191/104-8390627-1917536?v=glance

http://www.kalbphotosupply.com/slideviewer.html

http://www.cameraandphoto.com/title/photo~525462~B000052191.html

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 05-18-2004, 02:04 PM:

Two prints here at my nine plex.

Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 05-18-2004, 04:26 PM:

The worst thing about this is multiplexes are going to shaft Troy into the medium houses and it's not even a week old. I was planning on watching this week. Last weekend, even the late April releases have been relegated to the tiny houses in some multiplexes thanks to this madness over Van Helsing and Troy that grossed only 65M put together but hogged more than half of some multiplexes. In fact, one Regal 24 put Troy in its SIX BIGGEST HOUSES and the barely week old VH was in the medium houses. The fact that VH sucked is a different issue.

Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 05-18-2004, 04:37 PM:

Pravin - that same Regal 24 opens 8 prints of Shrek tomorrow!

Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 05-18-2004, 05:09 PM:

quote: John Pytlak
I'm sure the prints were fine, but you DID inspect them as you made them up onto your platters, didn't you?

Of course John, I always make sure I do film right when I build ANY print.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-18-2004, 05:16 PM:

quote: John Pytlak
I still prefer to receive the reels tails out, inspect them on the rewind bench as you splice them onto 6000-foot reels, then wind them onto the platter.

We have another old school boy here! Geez John, get with the program and get a Goldberg platter reel. Prints come heads up, you build to the reel in order, then slide the print onto the platter. It eliminates half (or more) of the winding and potential for scratching the print during makeup.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 05-18-2004, 05:24 PM:

I think Brad should send me a Goldberg platter reel. [evil]

Until then, I'll continue to prefer tails-out shipping, which is easier for changeover houses, too.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 05-19-2004, 05:31 PM:

In Central Ohio, SHREK II is playing at 12 theatres, and from looking at the listings, it appears from the showtimes that there are 43 prints. Guess they want to make sure NOBODY gets turned away!

Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 05-20-2004, 11:35 PM:

I have 3 prints.

In a 30 mile stretch, there are 13 prints. Mine play 16 times per day.

No wonder theatres are hurting with shrinking profits... no legs for films anymore means less money in the exhibitors pockets..

Way to go Distributors [fu]

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 05-21-2004, 12:38 AM:

Of 39 first-run screens in my market, 11 of them have Shrek!

Van Helsing and Troy still have some doubles left here.

Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 05-21-2004, 10:16 AM:

Here's what I ended up with at my 11 plex:

Screen 1 Shrek 2
Screen 2 Shrek 2
Screen 3 Troy
Screen 4 New York Minute
Screen 5 Mean Girls
Screen 6 Van Helsing
Screen 7 Man on Fire
Screen 8 Van Helsing
Screen 9 Troy
Screen10 Troy
Screen11 Shrek 2 -DLP

I felt it balanced well - for an 11 screen.

Posted by Todd Cornwall (Member # 2205) on 05-21-2004, 03:08 PM:

I never understood why prints come tails out. I cant stand it! Whichever way they do it, I think it should be done ONE way only. I don't like surprises. Don't you think it would be nice to know what to expect when you open the cans?

How long does it normally take you to put together a print of an average 6 reel movie? I'm curious.

Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 05-24-2004, 06:27 PM:

This is just an estimate, but I'd say every show we had starting with 4:25 Friday afternoon, up to 5:25 on Sunday evening was a sellout. Three of those were in 262 seat auditoriums, one in a 450 seat house. But we had to interlock for three shows on sunday giving each of those three shows over 700 seats, which sold just under 600 of those seats (On my day off [Cool]

Not so cool now that I see today that we've booked four prints of Day After Tomorrow and two of Raising Helen... but we are keeping all four prints of Shrek 2. My gut feeling is that Shrek will keep Matinees busy and Day After Tomorrow will overtake it at night.

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 05-24-2004, 06:56 PM:

Most cases up here it will be a mix of head and tails up as only selected reels will get a "revision" at the exchange
I still preferre tails up