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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-16-2004, 07:13 PM:

Dam, and I'm alergic to bee stings from the female bee.... One this big is almost hard to comprehend..... The article fomr CNN and the link.....
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/08/16/bees.reut/index.html
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Rock-throwing kids anger 120,000 bees

Monday, August 16, 2004 Posted: 12:43 PM EDT (1643 GMT)

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Kids throwing rocks stirred up more trouble than they bargained for when they dislodged a swarm of bees from an enormous hive built in the wall of a Southern California apartment building, authorities said on Friday.

An estimated 120,000 bees held residents of the apartment building and nearby homes hostage in Santa Ana, California after the children pelted their 500 pound (227 kg) hive with rocks on Thursday, Santa Ana Fire Captain Steve Horner said.

Several people, including firefighters, news reporters and a TV cameraman, reported being stung and at least two people were taken to a hospital with multiple stings, Horner said.

Firefighters cordoned off a four-block area to allow the bees to calm down and return to their hive.

An exterminator later fogged the hive and vacuumed out 40,000 dead bees, then set a trap for returning worker bees, of which about 80,000 were captured, Horner said.

The quarter-ton honeycomb, which may have accumulated inside the apartment wall for years, was so big it was threatening the structural integrity of the two-story building, Horner said.
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They ought to tear the building down around the hive and put it on display somewhere.

Mark

Posted by Robert L. Fischer (Member # 2424) on 08-16-2004, 08:30 PM:

Ugh, that would freak me out to find out that 120,000 bees were living in my wall.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-16-2004, 08:45 PM:

Damn! What a stupid stunt! Sure brings back memories...

...like the time my brother and I were elementary school brats in Burkburnett, Texas while my father was away in Okinawa and the dying days of Vietnam. Well. To get to the actual story.

My brother and I are walking home from school, but stop at this old, abandoned house next to the railroad tracks. We took a look inside and found this big hornets nest hanging from the ceiling. It seemed as soon as we found it we were throwing rocks at it. The whole nest came down to the floor in a thump, unleashing a cloud of mad yellow jackets.

Both of us dashed to get the hell out of the place. But my brother's foot went through a rotten floorboard. I was already outside and he burst out into the lawn swarmed around the head and chest. We couldn't get all of them off. Some guy stopped his car and ran out to help. He had a brush and literally had to comb those wasps out of my brother's hair!

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 08-16-2004, 08:52 PM:

Yeah, kids sure are fucking stupit!

I remember very well when I was about 13, my friend and I found this yellow jacket nest in the ground and decided to stomp on it to close it.

Well, of course, that only got them mad as hell and as we stomped, they went up our pant legs and started stinging us.

You never saw 2 two 13 y/o boys strip naked soooo fast and run home nude in your life!

>>> Phil

Posted by Richard Greco (Member # 2032) on 08-16-2004, 09:03 PM:

We finally find the source of Phil's nude fetish!!! [puke]

Posted by Greg Routenburg (Member # 1742) on 08-17-2004, 01:53 AM:

I believe those kids are providing a perfect example of the Darwin principle, People contributing to the gene pool by trying to remove themselves from it. If only the bees had won.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 08-17-2004, 02:02 AM:

Greg,

ROFLMAO. [Smile]

Funny story Phil. Now can anyone imagine that stunt being staged again with Phil at his current age? Hubba Hubba! [Eek!]

I wonder if the building had rights to the hive, and thus the possible honey supply. They may have been able to harvest it?

AJG

Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 08-17-2004, 06:31 AM:

"Always stop & think: does this look like something Wile E. Coyote would do?"

WHO IS TEACHING THESE KIDS?

Posted by Ben Holley (Member # 2247) on 08-17-2004, 03:07 PM:

sure everyone thinks these kids are stupid...but who can say they didnt do this as a kid. although I wouldnt have thrown rocks, i would have blown it up or set it on fire...just a part of growing up [Smile]

Posted by Phil Blake (Member # 2012) on 08-18-2004, 11:17 AM:

I remember 2 bee instances , one as a curious kid , wanting to invade the hive and take their freshly made honey, australian natural bush honey is one of the worlds best.

Protection was needed , so I donned heavy clothing and covered myself with dry cleaning bags , and in for the raid.

The bees were ready , and in the first 8 seconds , over half of them were inside the drycleaning armour and stinging !

I bolted , ripping of the plastic , suffering several stings and loosing my favourite pocket knife. Following that , I was convinced the supermarket was a far better place to buy honey.

20 years later............... while on a beach camping trip , and in a very dry year our campsite was invaded by bees, they posed no real threat , but a close friend I was with had bad allergies to them. After a day or two we discovered they were after water , I , playing the bush scientist decided to fill a few dishes with water, a place them away from our campsite , thinking the bees would all move over there, not realising that bees talk ! word travelled , 80% of the bees in West Australia were told of the abundance of water where we were.

The following day ........... I would say we had about 90 billion bees in the camp!

Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 08-18-2004, 11:18 AM:

Actually several exterminators I know will discharge a twin 12 guage shotgun into the ground above a inground wasp nest and the percusive shock kills them dead

Also a spray bottle with a 10% soap sollution will kill them if they get coated as it stops them from abosirbing oxygen through there skin
I have used one of those lawn fertilizer sprayers that mix water with fertilizer bottle filled with soap on a stick aimed at there nest overnight and in the morning the ground is govered with the dead ones and the nest is so waterlogged it collapses

Also if you have a good electrical circuit an large bug zapper near there nest can provide an interesting evening light show

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 08-18-2004, 08:31 PM:

PLOP!! There goes another pellet of chlorine falling into the gene pool!

For ground hornets, ants, termites or just about any other icky thing that lives underground, just pour a gallon or two of gasoline down the hole. You don't even have to light it. Just pour and walk away. I don't know any underground critter that can live through that. (Except for, maybe, those things in the movie, Tremmors! [Big Grin]

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 08-19-2004, 03:57 PM:

quote: Randy Stankey
For ground hornets, ants, termites or just about any other icky thing that lives underground, just pour a gallon or two of gasoline down the hole.

Not a good idea. [thumbsdown]

First, you will likely be violating environmental regulations. Second, if you ever try to sell the property, and it fails any mandated testing for residual chemicals in the ground, you will have rather massive clean-up costs to deal with before you can sell the property. Old gas stations, metal-plating shops, and dry cleaners are often hit with these issues.

A gasoline tanker truck flipped over and burned in Rochester last summer. They are still cleaning up the mess, hauling away truckloads of contaminated soil. The cleanup costs must be enormous. [Eek!]

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 08-19-2004, 05:43 PM:

...and these people didn't notive the bee-hive before? derrrrrrr

Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 08-23-2004, 05:42 PM:

Although I agree with John Pytlak, I have previously destroyed many groundbee hives in the way Randy described. Actually, the best time to destroy any hive is about 15 minutes after sunset so as you're guaranteed to kill every last one of those sons of bitches as they settle in for the night.

Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 08-23-2004, 06:58 PM:

When I was a kid I went through the tramatic experience of seeing a friend die when another group of 'stupit' kids threw rocks at a hornet's nest. The nest fell and struck my friend on the head. He then was stung to death by the hornets. It was later discovered that he had an allergy to bee stings - which in turn had caused his death.

[Mad]

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-23-2004, 11:54 PM:

How about you pour the gasoline in the hole AND light it? Would that be OK?

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 08-24-2004, 07:14 AM:

Not for this individual:

quote:
(1998) In rural Carbon County, Pennsylvania, a group of men were drinking beer and discharging firearms from the rear deck of a home owned by Irving Michaels, age 27. The men were firing at a raccoon that was wandering by, but the beer apparently impaired their aim. Despite an estimated 35 shots fired by the group, the animal escaped into a 3' diameter drainage pipe 100 feet away from Mr. Michaels' deck.

Determined to terminate the animal, Mr. Michaels retrieved a can of gasoline and poured some down the pipe, intending to smoke the animal out. After several unsuccessful attempts to ignite the fuel, Michaels emptied the entire five-gallon fuel can down the pipe and tried to light it again, to no avail.

Not one to admit defeat by wildlife, the determined Mr. Michaels proceeded to slide feet-first approximately 15 feet down the sloping pipe to toss the match. The subsequent rapidly-expanding fireball propelled Mr. Michaels back the way he had come, though at a much higher rate of speed. He exited the angled pipe "like a Polaris missile leaves a submarine," according to witness Joseph McFadden, 31.

Mr. Michaels was launched directly over his own home, right over the heads of his astonished friends, onto his front lawn. In all, he traveled over 200 feet through the air. "There was a Doppler Effect to his scream as he flew over us," McFadden reported, "followed by a loud thud." Amazingly, he suffered only minor injuries.

"It was actually pretty cool," Michaels said, "Like when they shoot someone out of a cannon at the circus. I'd do it again if I was sure I wouldn't get hurt."

Link to source.

Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 08-24-2004, 01:43 PM:

Ah, another fine specimin of Pennsylvania trash! If this wasn't an urban legened, Michaels should have been turned into the local game warden for attempting to use fire in ejecting the raccoon from the pipe. In this state it is illegal to smoke out any game animal from its den or hiding place for the purpose of killing it. Moreover, he should be tried by the local magistrate for the discharge of a firearm while intoxicated. Oh, and I'd also tack on the lose of hunting priviliges for five years in that he probably didn't have a current furtakers license to properly "harvest" the coon. (I guarantee you he hunts. Hell, just go to the Pennsylvania Game Commision website and look at the deer kills up there in Carbon ... there huge!) Lastly, its assholes like this that give lawful hunters and trappers like me bad names out among the general non-hunting public.

Now before you all post and tell me the obvious, ask yourself just how many assholes YOU KNOW would try something as dumb as this in real life.

Here is the answer: Probably half the staff at my theatre! (And thats about seven people in a state of only 12.5 million) [Confused]

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 08-26-2004, 07:09 AM:

I never did say that dumping gasoline down a hole was LEGAL or OK for the environment. All I said was that it would kill the bees... or any other critter that comes in contact with it.

Besides, you could either burn the gasoline in an engine or dump it down a hole. In one case you pollute thousands of liters of air every minute. In the other you pollute a few cubic meters of earth. If you burn the gas in your car, the MTBE and other chemicals in it will still settle to the ground and pollute the ground water.

I also imagine people who read this would have a modicum of common sense and wouldn't be indiscriminate in the use of the information. IF it was in the vicinity of a well or a stream I'd hope they wouldn't dump the gas.

As to lighting the gas after pouring it down the hole, it doesn't do much good. There's not a lot of oxygen down the hole. Upon lighting, there will be a flickering flame above ground level as the fumes come out the hole. After a while there won't be enough fumes and the flame will go out. Frankly, I'd think that some of the gasoline that would have gone toward poisoning the bees is now burned up.

When I was a kid, my dad got rid of some ground hornets this way. We never had trouble with them again.