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Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-21-2004, 11:21 AM:

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5762021/

File-sharing software wins major victory

Firms not liable for copyright violations, appeals court rulesBy David Kravets
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:20 p.m. ET Aug. 19, 2004SAN FRANCISCO -

The makers of two leading file-sharing programs are not legally liable for the songs, movies and other copyright works swapped online by their users, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday in a stinging blow to the entertainment industry.

Among other reasons, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Grokster Ltd. and StreamCast Networks Inc., unlike the original Napster, were not liable because they don’t have central servers pointing users to copyright material.

“In the context of this case, the software design is of great import,” Judge Sidney R. Thomas wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel, which upheld a lower court ruling that dismissed the bulk of the lawsuit brought by movie studios and music labels.

The panel noted that the firms simply provide software that lets individual users share information over the Internet, regardless of whether that shared information is copyrighted.

‘The technology has numerous other uses, significantly reducing the distribution costs of public domain and permissively shared art and speech, as well as reducing the centralized control of that distribution.’

— Judge Sidney R. Thomas

“The technology has numerous other uses, significantly reducing the distribution costs of public domain and permissively shared art and speech, as well as reducing the centralized control of that distribution,” Thomas wrote.

The entertainment industry could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

“We are carefully reviewing our next steps,” said Jack Valenti, president of the Motion Picture Association of America. In a statement, he pledged to “pursue all avenues in our power to fight those who illicitly profit from our members’ valuable property.”

A ruling against the file-sharing services could have made them unavailable for legitimate uses, analogous to banning VCRs to watch a school play because they could also record and play copyright TV shows.

Civil libertarians had also warned a defeat for Grokster and StreamCast could have forced technology companies such as Microsoft Corp. to delay or kill innovative products that give consumers more control.

Thursday’s ruling puts additional pressure on the entertainment industry to take the more costly and less popular route of going directly after online file-swappers. Recording companies already have sued more than 3,400 such users; at least 600 of the cases were eventually settled for roughly $3,000 each.

Supreme Court's Betamax precedent cited
Napster was shut down after the 9th Circuit ruled its centralized servers, which contained directories to thousands of copyright songs, made it legally liable for contributing to copyright infringement.

But in the wake of that ruling, peer-to-peer technology developed that avoided the need for a central hub, arguably limiting the liability of the companies involved.

Fred von Lohmann, who represented Los Angeles-based StreamCast, said the ruling follows “the same principle that people who make crowbars are not responsible for the robberies that may be committed with those crowbars.”

Thursday’s ruling could influence a separate ongoing entertainment industry case against Sharman Networks Ltd., makers of the Kazaa file-swapping program, which averages more users than any other file-sharing software.

In a different case, the maker of iMesh file-sharing software recently agreed to pay $4.1 million to the recording industry for copyright infringement and to prevent consumers from illegally distributing music or downloading songs.

Thursday’s ruling makes it less likely another company would similarly settle.

Mitch Bainwol, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of America, said the decision raises questions of whether “digital music will be enjoyed in a fashion that supports the creative process or one that robs it of its future.”

The lower court ruling upheld Thursday had cited the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1984 decision in the Sony Betamax case. The court said then that Sony wasn’t liable when people used its Betamax videocassette recorder to copy movies illegally because the technology had significant uses that did not violate copyrights.

The studios and labels argued that while Sony could not control how consumers used their VCRs, Grokster and StreamCast could filter the copyright content from their systems, like they do with computer viruses, but refuse to do so, because the free songs and movies are what draw their users and ultimately generate ad profits. Streamcast and Grokster make money via advertising that pops up on users’ screens.

Thomas, the appeals court judge, said agreeing with the entertainment industry’s demands would be “unwise” and “would conflict with binding precedent.”

“History has shown that time and market forces often provide equilibrium in balancing interests, whether the new technology be a player piano, a copier, a tape recorder, a video recorder, a personal computer, a karaoke machine, or an MP3 player,” Thomas wrote. “Thus, it is prudent for courts to exercise caution before restructuring liability theories.”

Michael Page, the attorney for Grokster, based in Nevis in the Caribbean, said the 9th Circuit’s ruling clearly followed the Supreme Court precedent.

“The biggest thing about this is the court recognized that changing copyright law to whatever new technology comes along is a bad idea,” Page said.

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 08-21-2004, 11:30 PM:

Too many words. Let me summarize for everyone: If you own a Betamax you can download music. [Big Grin]

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-22-2004, 06:37 AM:

You can download music, but good luck on finding:
1. much of anything GOOD at all worth downloading
2. avoiding viruses and other malware
3. actually getting a good download of a song you really want without it being all glitched to hell (probably on purpose; that music industry penchant for spamming the P2P circuits with junked files).

For all the trouble involved, you pretty much just have to say f**k it and go buy the CD if it is something you want. But that can be exceedingly rare. It brings up an old, classic Bill Hicks comedy bit about the music industry and how musicians should be playing from the heart instead of the corporate board room. I seem to remember him commenting that he didn't want rock stars as role models unless they were dead or fixing to be dead or at least having a blood bubble coming from one nostril from too much drug use.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-22-2004, 09:22 AM:

quote: Jack Valenti said:
We will pursue all avenues in our power to fight those who illicitly profit from our members’ valuable property.

How can anyone profit from free downloads on P2P networks?[av=d]

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 08-22-2004, 10:40 AM:

Adware.

But how does someone get a virus from an mp3?

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-22-2004, 01:19 PM:

"If you own a Betamax you can download music"

Thats for sure and alot of music was recorded digitally on Beta machines using Sony's first PCM Digital Audio recording adaptor the PCM-F10 and the later portable PCM F-1.

There are still some around so in theory you still could record downloads with one... [Eek!]

.

Mark

Posted by Steve Kraus (Member # 476) on 08-22-2004, 04:33 PM:

I thought those PCM boxes were for use with U-Matic 3/4" decks.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-22-2004, 04:54 PM:

You could use a U-matic if you wanted to but it was actually meant for Beta Decks. Some also used it with VHS with so-so results. It was style matched for the Bets SL2000 portable deck.

Mark