Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Star Wars Episodes 7,8, and 9

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Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 08-25-2004, 08:19 AM:

http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/#2

'Star Wars' Sequels?

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The Star Wars fansite Theforce.net has posted a message claiming that employees of Lucas's special effects company Industrial Light and Magic have been required to sign non-disclosure agreements promising not talk about the possibility of a trilogy sequel. The message reads: "You didn't hear this from me, but you might be curious as to why everyone at ILM just signed NDA's saying that they will not discuss Star Wars episodes 7, 8, or 9." Lucas had previously said that when the current prequel trilogy is completed, he will shut down the franchise for good. However, the poster remarked: "Since they're [the sequels] not being made, why the NDA's?"

Posted by Gracia L. Babbidge (Member # 582) on 08-25-2004, 09:06 AM:

Curious indeed. [eyes]

Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 08-25-2004, 02:41 PM:

As Phil Hill might say

[sleep]

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 08-25-2004, 04:00 PM:

As the live action has become secondary to the CGI, maybe Pixar should make the next triology. [Cool]

Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 08-25-2004, 04:31 PM:

Best to cite as http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2004-08-24#2 so it works after yesterday [Smile]

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--jhawk

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-25-2004, 07:25 PM:

No matter what site you are directed to about it its still all [sleep]

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Mark

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 08-25-2004, 08:56 PM:

Given that Lucas keeps wanting to change the movies, it would be no surprise if he flip-flops on this issue. I still have a ROLLING STONE mag from when Empire came out where he talks about nine episodes. Then he changed his mind and said that "Return of the Jedi" was really the end of the story.

As bad as the newer movies have been and as poorly received as they have been by critics and even by many uber-fans, I would think he'd want to get Episode III done and get the hell out of Dodge. He probably wants to have another reason to say "Everyone must have digital cinema to play this movie!" since that obviously isn't gonna happen in time for III.

But the bottom line really is, as stated above, [sleep]

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 08-26-2004, 02:05 AM:

quote: John Pytlak
As the live action has become secondary to the CGI, maybe Pixar should make the next triology.

I think you have something there John. That'd actually rock! Now, if they could get Ford, Fisher, and Hamill for voice talent. Wow.

AJG

Posted by Mike Olpin (Member # 1115) on 08-28-2004, 11:47 AM:

Speak of the devil.

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Star Wars Episodes 7 - 9 to be animated?

Moviehole and IESB report that Star Wars Episodes 7 - 9 - if the sequels do happen - may be animated, considering the actors from the original trilogy are respectively older than they were in the previous installments, and Lucasfilm has a new Singapore animation studio that would be perfect for such a venture. If the sequels do not happen, however, there is still talk of a new Star Wars animated series in the works.

http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00002224.html

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 08-28-2004, 02:50 PM:

what's more likely to happen is a movie between episodes 5 and 6....Back when I was hitting up the Star Wars online stuff 6-7 years ago that was a huge discussion

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 08-28-2004, 03:39 PM:

I read Shadows of the Empire a few years back (the segué between 5 and 6) and thought it was well done. It would make a good movie, but the continuity would be horrid (with older actors or new actors) unless they did some convincing CG work. Which is possible.

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-28-2004, 05:45 PM:

quote: Brian Michael Weidemann
unless they did some convincing CG work. Which is possible.

Are you kidding?

Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 08-29-2004, 11:18 AM:

Sorry people. Episode three is the last installment. Lucasfilm has denied any further episodes for years, and they are denying that any NDA's have been handed to thier employees regarding any further installments.

They have however left open the possibility of a future TV series, live action or animated. But that is all rumor as well.

Even Uncle George knows when to quit. Attack of the clones was financial proof that people are tired of his crap.

Ciao

Dave

Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 08-29-2004, 12:31 PM:

quote: Brian Michael Weidemann
I read Shadows of the Empire a few years back (the segué between 5 and 6) and thought it was well done. It would make a good movie, but the continuity would be horrid (with older actors or new actors) unless they did some convincing CG work. Which is possible.

I remember reading somewhere that in order for those books to be published Lucas gave them the right to do it however he did not give them the right to make them into movies.

Hmmmmmmmm Attack of the clones did make over $300 million dollars. I am looking forward to the third installment. Pretty much the one I have been wanting to see the most. I think it will do better than the second one.

Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 08-29-2004, 01:20 PM:

quote: Dave Williams
Even Uncle George knows when to quit. Attack of the clones was financial proof that people are tired of his crap.

Ummm, yeah, this movie did quite well. If I am correct, I believe it is in the top 100 grossing movies of all time.

My point of all this is: I am a huge fan of the original 3 movies. The rest was all about G-R-E-E-D. I would not be surprised if more of something gets made with the name STAR WARS attached to it - for the mere fact that major $ DOLLARS $ are involved.

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 08-29-2004, 08:06 PM:

quote: Michael Schaffer
Are you kidding?

Convincing CG work: in that they render the whole darned thing, using likenesses of original actors. It wouldn't be convincing as "mistaken for reality" so much (since we're a long way from that, I think), but convincing in the way Shrek was convincing. Everything in it worked with itself, and it was obviously a fantasy world and had a fantasy approach.

I'm thinking of a Final Fantasy-type render job (which was stunning, and it was done YEARS ago). Visually, it just worked for its own sci-fi world; and it wouldn't be too hard to simulate Ford, Fisher, & Hamill's likenesses (given whatever permissions, blah blah blah) in that way, with a similar production. It was "convincing" in that I didn't seem distracted by "oh, that was CG ... that wasn't ... that was", since it was ALL a uniform-looking medium.

The only movie that comes immediately to mind that I thought actually had what I would call a "convincing" mesh of CGI with principle photography was Fifth Element (and I contribute this to well-done production design). Granted, there weren't human CG characters. But I loved its style.

Anyway, if there are no movies after Episode III, I won't even really care. Greed or not, I like the series; but it isn't such a big "part of my life" that I will be less complete if the movies stop, or Episode III is idiotic, or whathaveyou.

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-29-2004, 09:01 PM:

? It has been some time since I last watched The Fifth Element, but I don't remember any CG characters.

quote: Dennis Benjamin
My point of all this is: I am a huge fan of the original 3 movies. The rest was all about G-R-E-E-D. I would not be surprised if more of something gets made with the name STAR WARS attached to it - for the mere fact that major $ DOLLARS $ are involved.

That's OK, after all, these are commercial ventures, movies made to entertain people and make them pay for the entertainment.
But I think most will agree that they could have made a lot more money than they did if they had made better prequels!

Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 08-29-2004, 09:04 PM:

quote: Michael Schaffer
It has been some time since I last watched The Fifth Element, but I don't remember any CG characters.

Funny, neither does Brian.

quote: Brian Michael Weidemann
Granted, there weren't human CG characters.

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 08-29-2004, 09:33 PM:

Maybe he means non human CG characters like aliens? But all the aliens were non-CG too, if I remember correctly.
If there are no CG characters, I don't understand why he would mention that movie, since it doesn't have more CG elements than many other SF/fantasy movies.

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 08-29-2004, 09:55 PM:

Thanks for having my back, Daryl. [Wink]

I brought it up because there are plenty of CG vehicles, landscapes, backgrounds, etc. that don't STAND OUT as CG, because the look of the live action stuff just "fits". Many CGI-heavy sci-fi films don't do that convincingly well. Sure, Fifth Element didn't use "more" CG ... but, for instance, the Star Wars prequels just have something about them that tends to remove the actors from their backgrounds (an overabundance of blue-screen, an underwhelming sense of "directing", whatever). It's subtle, but it's there when I watch. They look more like composite shots.

Fifth Element blended better, which is rare as I see it. My ultimate point was that "convincing" CGI is "possible" when blended with live action, but even easier when the whole ball of wax is CG. The effect being MORE noticeable with character animation coming in to play.

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 08-29-2004, 10:13 PM:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars2.htm
Production Budget: $115 million
Estimated Marketing: $25 million
US Gross: $310 million
Overseas Gross: $338 million
Worldwide total: $649 million

Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 08-29-2004, 10:59 PM:

Damn, only $500 million dollars profit? Unreal. [Big Grin]

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 08-31-2004, 11:50 AM:

Vector Prime would make a great Star Wars movie I think. But 1) a lot has happened between Return of the Jedi and Vector Prime and 2) Vector Prime kicks off a story arc of about 20 or so books, so that might be a problem.