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Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 04-29-2005, 12:57 AM:

Just a curious question, how many of us are FreeMasons?

Just acknoledge with the secret sign (not that there is one, because if there was one, it would be secret...)

Ciao

G

Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 04-29-2005, 07:07 AM:

".. I have a second-hand apron ..."

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-29-2005, 08:34 AM:

I'm glad that I don't have that problem.

Mark

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 04-29-2005, 09:32 AM:

I'm not a Knight of Columbus either. [Wink]

Posted by Jonathan Worthing (Member # 803) on 04-29-2005, 09:59 AM:

quote: John Walsh
".. I have a second-hand apron ..."

"..I almost got in at Hendon.."

[ 04-29-2005, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan Worthing ]

Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 04-29-2005, 12:01 PM:

Mark: "I'm glad that I don't have that problem."

What's wrong with Free Masons? Seems like your basic charitable fraternal organization. Although, I admit I don't know anything about them ... which is why I quote from another great scroll - the Scroll of Monty.

My dad was in the Lions Club .. everyone likes the little cars the Shriners drive in at parades... The membership of fraternal organization seems to have declined, though. I think that toady, people just have too much work or other things to do - which is too bad.

"This is a 12-plex theater combining classical stud and sheetrock construction techniques. The patrons arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, through the candy stand, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these...

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-29-2005, 01:16 PM:

A few of my family members are. I've looked into it briefly, but I decided that I didn't have time to do anything with it at the moment.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 04-29-2005, 01:19 PM:

http://www.masonicinfo.com/KofC.htm

quote:
Sometimes, those seeking to encourage hatred and dissent try to ferment trouble between groups whom they think are, or should be, 'natural enemies'. This tactic can garner interest but in the end, it is always revealed as a hate tactic. Such have been the attempts at pitting the honorable Catholic religious fraternity, the Knights of Columbus, against Freemasonry....

The Knights of Columbus organization has a proud history. There are many Masons who are also involved members of the KofC and it is not unusual for KofC Councils and Masonic Lodges to share an annual 'Fellowship Breakfast' or other activities in the interests of fraternalism.

Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 04-29-2005, 02:04 PM:

Just checking here, but it this a correct statement?:

"All Shriners are Masons, but not all Masons are Shriners."

Also, when Shriners in your area drove around in their little cars, did they squirt water at the parade observers? They always did in our parades, but many people I've spoken with have never witnessed this.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-29-2005, 05:53 PM:

What the hell is a Free mason? Sounds retarded, but I do like anything that is free!

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 04-29-2005, 06:02 PM:

I heard the Freemasons were a satanic devil-worshiping organization. Without getting into all the Google crap, would someone who KNOWS, PLEASE tell us what is their agenda and what they are all about.

The Sons of the Desert is the ONLY fraternal organization I would consider being a member.

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 04-29-2005, 06:19 PM:

Their agenda is to replace the all country's money with bills containing GPS devices, so they can track our movement.

Then, they plan to seize control of the constabulary by buying up all the businesses in a municipality, and applying economic pressure to influence local elections, so their members can assume power.

At least, that's what I heard.

Posted by David Buckley (Member # 2600) on 04-29-2005, 06:57 PM:

Given that the Freemasons have been around for centuries, if they had satanic powers or evil intent to take over the world they would have done it by now.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-29-2005, 07:09 PM:

No they wouldn't have. Just because they have the intent doesn't mean they will succeed at realizing their satanic dreams. Since the Freemasons are satanic, it probably isn't a very popular group.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 04-29-2005, 07:36 PM:

I was just in a Masonic Temple last week. There is one about 1/2 block from me that has been the subject of a locally controversial zoning case. In any event, the place has been sold to a local church. The church set up a tour with the neighbors to talk about plans for the future of the site.

There were some very strange things inside. The upstairs area is a large auditorium area with a stage and benches along the sides. No central seating. There were permanent twinkling lights in the ceiling. The strangest thing was the secret lifting panels. There was a false wall behind the benches. Three of these panels had a mechanism that would lift up the panel very quietly.

The temple was built in the late '50's, and I don't think any of the interior had been updated. Looked like an original sound an lighting system.

The church is thinking of turning the entire place into a youth recreation center, tearing out the false walls and ceiling.

No secret rooms or other hidden areas that I could find!

[ 04-30-2005, 07:26 AM: Message edited by: Mark Lensenmayer ]

Posted by Joshua Waaland (Member # 287) on 04-29-2005, 09:17 PM:

whoops

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-29-2005, 10:42 PM:

quote: John Walsh
My dad was in the Lions Club .. everyone likes the little cars the Shriners drive in at parades... The membership of fraternal organization seems to have declined, though. I think that toady, people just have too much work or other things to do - which is too bad.

Had I the time I would work with the Lions Club. I think Ian must drive one of those little shriners cars in the parade....

Indeed... Too much to do ... too little time to do it....

Mark

Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 04-30-2005, 04:03 AM:

I don't know much about what is going on with Freemasons these days, but it does look to me that it is just an outdated obscure organization now.
However, it has to be said that during some periods of history, the Freemasons played a very important role. Especially in the 18th century, during the so-called Age of Enlightenment, when new ideas of rationalism, egality and humanism were formulated. Part of that new concept of thinking led to modern analytic science, another part to the founding of democracies based on - at least theoretically - equal rights and dignity for everyone.
At a time when most people were subjects of absolutarian monarchies, these ideas were seen as dangerous and spreading or even discussing them was strictly forbidden. Secret organizations like the Freemasons with all their rites and rules were the only places where such ideas could be discussed openly. Those rites and rules were mainly implemented to make sure that nothing of what went on inside the meetings would ever reach the outside world. Many of the greatest minds of that age were members of such organizations, foremost of all the Freemasons.
That is also why US dollar bills are adorned with Freemasonic symbols. The American revolution, and shortly afterwards the French revolution, showed just how dangerous these ideas really were - for monarchies.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-30-2005, 12:44 PM:

Well, that, and they have hidden a vast treasure somewhere in Washington DC. Apparently there is a map to it on the back of the Declaration of Independence. I saw a movie about it. [Wink]

Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 04-30-2005, 03:45 PM:

I have an uncle who is a Free Mason and has been for many years. He suggested that I join their circle to network myself after graduating from college. I never took this offer for membership seriously, however.

Last month I took my fiance to the Joslin Diabetes Center at West Penn Hospital in Pittsburgh. There were Masonic magazines and newsletters in the lobby. Most of these guys were either retired or ready to retire based on the glossy color pictures. I don't think membership in their organization is a priority with Generation X (or even the Boomers for that matter).

Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 04-30-2005, 05:21 PM:

My grandfather on my dad's side is a free mason. I'm too disconnected from my family at present time for it to mean much.

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 04-30-2005, 10:53 PM:

"Consecrate the bond of obedience. Assume the position."
WHHAPPP!
"Thank you, sir. May I have another?"

Posted by Justin West (Member # 920) on 05-01-2005, 12:58 AM:

John: I get your Monty Python-reference! [Wink]

I'm just wanting a block of flats!

Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 05-01-2005, 09:20 AM:

Good job Justin, but Jonathan was ahead! Of course being from the Land of Monty, he has a bit of an advantage ... [beer]

I had to laugh when reading about fights between the Knights of Columbus and the Freemasons. That would be like pitting the AV club against the chess club in a high school full of 70 year old men....

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 05-04-2005, 08:20 PM:

This discussion took a negative perspective due to the lack of knowledge of the writers. No, I am not a Mason, yes I am aware that they are a secret socity that apparently has unusual rituals. What seems to have been overlooked is the money that they raise for many charities, not the least are their hospitals for children, particularly for burn victims and the research that is done in these facilities. Never has a charge been made.

If you saw National Treasure you now know that several of this nations founding fathers were masons as have a few presidents and many other well known

The Masons, K of C, VFW, and other fraternat groups are suffering from a couple of generations of non joiners.

Posted by Tracy Bellar (Member # 3049) on 05-04-2005, 10:08 PM:

My Grandpa is one. I thought about it a few times. I saw it get my grandpa out of a speeding ticket once. Held his ring out when a State Highway patrol pulled him over. The cop walked up and instead of let me see your drivers license he simply said have a nice day and went back to his car and left.
I've been mistaken as a mason many times. I don't know what I was doing but I did something that led a few masons to come up and ask me out of the blue. Organizations can be helpful but I think it's funny how rumours and far fetched stories get started about secret organizations. People have great imaginations sometimes.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-04-2005, 11:03 PM:

quote: John Walsh
...a high school full of 70 year old men...

I agree! WTF CARES?

quote: Bill Enos
What seems to have been overlooked is the money that they raise for many charities, not the least are their hospitals for children, particularly for burn victims and the research that is done in these facilities.

Hot tip: There are many OTHER charities that do the same thing. Are we supposed to be impressed? HA!

quote: Tracy Bellar
...saw it get my grandpa out of a speeding ticket once. Held his ring out when a State Highway patrol pulled him over. The cop walked up and instead of let me see your drivers license he simply said have a nice day and went back to his car and left.

Isn't that special? Special privileges that the rest of us low-lifes don't have.... how FUCKING discusting!

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 05-04-2005, 11:21 PM:

Hey! My old Nevada Civil Air Patrol plates saved me from a speeding ticket one night in Pahrump... [Big Grin]

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-04-2005, 11:33 PM:

Humm... I always attract bad cops, especially since driving a big truck. You don't know cop harASSment until you've been a trucker.

I can't remember when I was last let off the hook... oh, wait, yes I can: NEVER!

Posted by Dean Kollet (Member # 1789) on 05-06-2005, 07:31 PM:

quote: Jarryd Beard
"All Shriners are Masons, but not all Masons are Shriners."

Shriners are high-degree (32nd I think, 33rd being the Head of all the Masons...I'm not 100% sure on the numbers) Masons, so only certain Masons are Shriners.

My grandfather was one, as well as my uncle; my friend is as well...I'm still pondering if/when I should join.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-06-2005, 09:17 PM:

My great-uncle was a mason, AND a Montana Highway Patrolman. He got me out of a ticket from beyond the grave once....a cop pulled me over for going too fast in a construction zone and recognized my last name. I told him my great-uncle was a MHP and that he'd died about ten years ago, and I was off the hook. That was cool.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 05-06-2005, 09:28 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
My great-uncle was a mason...

Gosh Mike! So was mine! He built several brick walls and houses...

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 05-06-2005, 09:39 PM:

My aunt is an accountant.. I once asked her to help me on my 1040EZ.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-07-2005, 06:00 PM:

quote: Paul Mayer
Hey! My old Nevada Civil Air Patrol plates saved me from a speeding ticket one night in Pahrump...

Paul,
There's not too much to do down in Pahrump except for pahromping around [Confused]

.

Mark

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-07-2005, 07:57 PM:

I hear Art Bell's compound is somewhere under the Pahrump crust.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-08-2005, 10:40 AM:

quote: Tim Reed
I hear Art Bell's compound is somewhere under the Pahrump crust.

Indeed it is! There's even a man from mars on a billboard not too far fomr Arts place,and not too far from the gentlemans club. That area is definately a strange part of the country. We have friends that live in Alamo, retired air force people no less. They see strange lights all the time in that neck of Nevada as Area 51 stuff overflys them all the time. They can hear, but not see the stuff when it overflys.

Mark