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Posted by Erica Peterson (Member # 1784) on 05-19-2005, 05:42 PM:
 
CNN (and other sources) are reporting that copies of "Revenge of the Sith" are already available for download online, via BitTorrent. Article here.

Money quote:
"According to Web site Waxy.org (http://www.waxy.org/), one print was leaked on Wednesday before the film was even released in theaters. The movie was time-stamped, suggesting it may have come from within the industry rather than from someone who videotaped an advance screening."
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-19-2005, 07:14 PM:
 
You could have at least provided the torrent for us.
 

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Posted by John Lasher (Member # 968) on 05-19-2005, 09:23 PM:
 
All presentation!

This should make George very happy.
 

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Posted by Allison Parsons (Member # 2728) on 05-19-2005, 11:14 PM:
 
Gee, if only Fox would have put a 'false name' on the movie canisters (or should I say boxes) this time around instead of Star Wars 3 Revenge of... on it, none of this would happen! (pure sarcasm there, folks)
 

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Posted by Cam Jones (Member # 2684) on 05-20-2005, 12:23 AM:
 
Or a little security man inside the cans

This is hardly suprising though. Hey, maybe Cap Code will track these prints har-har-har
 

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Posted by Dominic Espinosa (Member # 2122) on 05-20-2005, 03:51 AM:
 
Oh sure, but they put fudging code names on Hide & Seek...
 

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Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-20-2005, 10:13 AM:
 
I smell a rat.

This rat "leaks" a "perfect digital copy" of a brand new movie to "digital pirates" who then "illegally" post said movie on the internet for download just hours before its "official release".

Then, this rat then jumps up and down, screams, yells and waves his arms, shouting "Piracy!! Piracy!!" at the top of his lungs.

Shortly thereafter, this rat's theories about how to "prevent" such piracy by providing only digitally encrypted copies over secure networks becomes the default solution to the "piracy problem".
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-20-2005, 10:16 AM:
 
Either that, or day-and-date DVD releases.
 

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Posted by Jason Burroughs (Member # 68) on 05-20-2005, 11:11 AM:
 

quote: Mike Blakesley

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Either that, or day-and-date DVD releases.

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Mark Cuban is already working on a project that will do this. - Pathetic

[ 05-21-2005, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: Adam Martin ]
 

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Posted by Joshua Waaland (Member # 287) on 05-20-2005, 01:21 PM:
 
You may be onto something there Randy. Sounds fishy. Another way for old Georgey to get his digital format moving along a bit faster.
 

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Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 05-20-2005, 03:11 PM:
 
The DVDs are already on the streets here in Manhattan. And are selling for between $5.00 to $10.00 a disc.
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-20-2005, 05:08 PM:
 
That's stupid. They should be free.
 

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Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 05-20-2005, 06:56 PM:
 

quote: Mike Blakesley

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Either that, or day-and-date DVD releases.

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That happens kiss movie theatres goodbye.
 

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Posted by Kurt Zupin (Member # 2751) on 05-20-2005, 08:20 PM:
 
I love how everyone's saying that same day and date releases are just around the corner to counter piracy. I will shit a brick if this ever happens...and I don't count Mark Cuben's destined to fail project either. I'm talking major blockbuster movies...Like SW EP3, Batman Begins, War of the Worlds.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
 

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Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-20-2005, 11:51 PM:
 
I wouldn't put something like this past Lucas for a second. I don't think anything's beneath him at this point.

Oh! And, don't forget the plausible deniability thing.
It wasn't HIM. It was some underpaid grunt who sneaked into the server room after hours who did it! Of course, that guy will take the fall and Ol' George will be dressed in a Teflon® suit!
 

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Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 05-21-2005, 08:56 PM:
 
Lucasfilm is behind the pirating of SWEP3 ???

That's probably the dumbest thing I've heard all week.
 

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Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-21-2005, 10:35 PM:
 
Not ACTUAL pirating. Mostly just publicity about pirating.
Just enough to get people's attention to the subject. Just enough to create a public outcry. Once that happens, the right person can stand up and propose a way to prevent such a thing from happening again in the future.

Don't you think that a company like Lucasfilm would find out who it is/was that leaked the movie in about 0.68 seconds? That person (or persons) would be hung out to dry in a very short time.

I'm sure the site that hosted the video would be shut down pretty quickly. Even then, how much risk was there really? High quality digital video takes a long, long time to download. Right? How many people could have actually downloaded the movie?
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-22-2005, 01:48 AM:
 
Well, once a torrent is out, there isn't any need for servers. Torrents are small enough to be e-mailed. Then that downloads the file from tons and tons of other people while you upload it to other people as well. Bittorrent truly kicks ass for big files.
 

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Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 05-22-2005, 06:40 AM:
 
I wasn't sure where to post this comic I STOLE from yesterdays paper, but this thread will do:



Notice the "technical difficulties" screen even uses the Film-Tech font (though slightly squeezed). It is obvious that this happened at a Brad Miller theater, otherwise there would be a different font onscreen. What kind of film are you runnin' there, Brad? Might be time to retire the Ultra Sonic splicer if it can't keep the (16mm?) film together anymore. Also, why is your masking set to flat?
 

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Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 05-22-2005, 07:57 AM:
 
BitTorrent is driving the MPAA crazy. There are a great many legitimate uses of BitTorrent. I've downloaded LINUX distributions that way, and it works well. So, MPAA can't just get it "banned" to solve their problem.

The other problem they are having is that bittorrent keeps improving. Now there is a trackerless system that makes it almost impossible to identify. MPAA's response is to "go after those who house the files", but with Bittorrent, the sources are so scattered that it would be almost impossible to identify a single source.
 

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 05-22-2005, 01:29 PM:
 
Joe,

I run only 16mm silent double perf negative films in my theaters. Nothing but the BEST!!! That's why I run everything with fixed flat masking, because flat is better. Just ask dorks like Robert Rodriguez. Also I can personally guarantee that the film never, ever breaks more than 3 times a show.
 

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Posted by Alan Dallas (Member # 2537) on 05-23-2005, 06:10 AM:
 
Heheh that's pretty funny Brad... ONLY 3 times.

Anyway, about this whole download biz. When I got home from screening 1 of our 3 prints I assumed my normal position and sat at my PC for the next 6 hours (I'm an internet gamer). Anywhoooo, jumped onto a Ventrilo voice chat server I frequent thats related to one of the games I play and proceeded to give my not so spoiler rich synopsis of SW3 to a buddy that was on there. His next words almost blew me out of my chair "Good then my 'torrent download of it won't be wasted time then it sounds like."

This was Thurs morning 1:30 PDT mind you. Of course my only reply was "You damn pirating Canuk!" which got lots of laughs from him. Ya he's a Canadian, also a very good friend.

Later he confirmed to me that what he watched was no way in hell recorded off a Theatre Screen. Said it looked and sounded like a DVD rip.
 

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 05-23-2005, 03:44 PM:
 
Illegal 'Star Wars' copies hit the streets in Beijing

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Illegal 'Star Wars' copies hit the streets in Beijing
Counterfeiters were selling illegal DVD copies of the latest "Star Wars" movie on Beijing's streets Sunday, just three days after it opened in Chinese cinemas.

The copies of "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith," priced at 20 yuan ($2.40), were being offered by vendors out of shoulder bags on Beijing's main avenue.

The pirated copies were slightly blurry but appeared not to have been filmed in a cinema, as are many of China's imported fakes.

But viewers using the English subtitles were likely to be confused since they were from the 2003 action movie "Detention" starring Dolph Lundgren and didn't match the on-screen action. The Chinese subtitles, however, were accurate.

The sales were taking place despite repeated Chinese promises to stamp out a thriving industry in copied goods that foreign companies say costs them billions of dollars a year in lost potential sales.

"Revenge of the Sith" opened Thursday on Chinese screens in a rare simultaneous opening with cinemas abroad.

Distributors hope that such worldwide premiers will defeat pirates by giving audiences in China and other countries a chance to see films before illegal copies can be made.

Studios complain that China has created a market for pirated movies by blocking or delaying releases of many films in an effort to protect state-owned studios.

Pirated movies sold in China are made from videotapes shot in cinemas abroad, or from preview copies given out to film distributors and others in the industry.

China says it is trying to prevent piracy, with about 9,000 cases brought to court in 2004.

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The copies of "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith," priced at 20 yuan ($2.40), were being offered by vendors out of shoulder bags on Beijing's main avenue.

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