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MSNBC
LORAIN, Ohio - A man faces two counts of animal cruelty in two Ohio counties after a litter of kittens was tossed out the window of a moving car, NBC 4 reported.

A 6-week-old kitten was the only survivor from the entire litter. Police said the suspect is a police officer.

Witnesses told Lorain police that a man driving from Huron to Lorain was throwing kittens out of his car window.

The lone surviving cat was found at an intersection. Even though the cat used one of its nine lives, it didn't escape unharmed.

"When this kitty tried to land on its feet when he was thrown from the car, when it landed he stretched its arms away from its body, and that stretching damaged the nerves as it came from the body to its arm," said Dr. Thomas Wood, of the Lorain Animal Clinic.

Two witnesses trailed the driver and called police. During questioning, police said the suspect said he was a police officer.

The kitten is being treated at the Lorain Animal Clinic and is expected to make a full recovery.

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I really do think the punishment needs to fit the crime. The kitten should be measured from head to rear and then the guy who did this should be measured head to foot. Then taking into account the difference in size to be calculated against the speed the car was going at and simply toss that fucker out of the car at a mathematically calculated and fair increased speed.

If by some chance the guy survives the toss, he should be banished from any form of law enforcement and spend some time in jail.

Anyone disagreeing with me on this I offer this perspective. The kitten was completely defenseless...just like your newborn child would be. You wouldn't be too happy if someone grabbed your kid and tossed him out the window of a car racing along the highway, would you?
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-06-2005, 04:59 PM:
 
I'd like to think that we're civilised in a way that this guy obviously is not, so personally I'd settle for whatever the punishment would normally be in Lorain, Ohio, for premeditatedly murdering as many newborn children as he killed cats and then seriously injuring another one.

Why do people like that manage to end up as police officers? Last month we had this moron (link to BBC Online story of 18 May about police officer who was acquitted of speeding after driving at 159mph in a 70 zone) who decided that it would be fun to pretend to be Michael Schumacher one night, and this racist thug (19 May - police officer who racially abused and intimidated someone he'd just arrested) who tried to get an innocent teenager convicted of a number of serious offences, and probably would have succeeded if the teen hadn't managed to gather evidence using his mobile 'phone's voice recorder. Obviously I'm not going to say anything political, but I do wonder how it's possible for this kind of person to get through the police force selection procedures.
 

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Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 06-06-2005, 06:06 PM:
 
Very sad. While the guy deserves to get thrown out of a car, I'd also tie a length of piano wire around his balls....

It's especially pointless because there are many shelters that will take kittens, as they are usually easily adoptable.
 

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Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 06-06-2005, 06:24 PM:
 
I hate reading about shit like that. I hope the guy gets whatever the max sentence is for animal abuse.
 

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Posted by John T. Hendrickson, Jr (Member # 849) on 06-06-2005, 07:02 PM:
 
SICK. VERY VERY SICK. I agree. Someone should throw him from the car.
 

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Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 06-06-2005, 07:09 PM:
 
Always sad to hear of man's inhumanity to cat.

Signed, Cat-Daddy of three cats
 

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Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 06-06-2005, 11:30 PM:
 
Disgusting.

Cat-dad to THREE of them, too. One is a 25 pounder.
 

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Posted by Rachel Gilardi (Member # 1016) on 06-07-2005, 12:35 AM:
 
Don't forget to calculate the difference in size against the height they throw him from to...

And why couldn't a person that doesn't want the kittens just bring them to a shelter, its just sick.

Kitty Mommy of 3 cats also, one a 24.9 pounder (was at the vet today).
 

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Posted by Dieter Depypere (Member # 3184) on 06-07-2005, 01:37 AM:
 
I hate those people. I am friend of animals - If I get this [...] I would not know what to do with him
 

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Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 06-07-2005, 02:14 AM:
 
Drowning unwanted kittens in a bag is a cliche', as much for its cruelty as the evasion that the person who does it commits by concealing the cats from himself before killing them. This guy, however, obviously had created a method that he found amusing.

There's a huge amount of statistical data correlating animal abuse to various sociopathic behaviors & personality types. Like a lot of other behaviors & mindsets, it usually seems to be learned:

"Evidence continues to mount on the ineffectiveness and deleterious nature of corporal punishment as a child-rearing technique (Straus, 1991). Two recent studies link this evidence to animal abuse."

http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/jjbul2001_9_2/page5.html
http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/jjbul2001_9_2/page7.html

They'll tend to have learned & believed that violence toward spouses, children, & animals is normal, expected, justified, & has no ill effects. Persons with that belief always underreport & underscale what they think is "violence", & even when there's injury or death to a spouse or child as a result of their violent acts, will view it as "they had it coming", & remorse will only be for being caught (or public results like death or hospitalization).

They're violent, narcissistic, & terrified. They generally conceal their behavior from public view because exposure would result in loss of social status. However, they've always got this sort of power play exhibitionistic streak of trying to see how much they can display in public without rebuke to do some social-ordering - seeing how hard they can hit spouses & kids in public before somebody says something, tormenting animals in front of a group that is expected to only be very distressed but won't stop or report them, throwing cats out the window on the highway is a new version of a screaming little terrified monster only brave enough to peek out when he thinks he'll be safe enough to dart back in.

When you see these things, you're seeing just the tip of the iceberg, & there's a whole lot they've done before & will do in the future.
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-07-2005, 02:54 AM:
 
Agreed totally. You quite frequently hear of people who are convicted for murders and GBH who turn out to have previous convictions for animal cruelty - it does seem to be an indicator that if they're prepared to do that sort of thing to pets, they're capable of doing it to humans, too.
 

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Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 06-07-2005, 02:55 AM:
 
On second thought ... we don't need to go there ...
 

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Posted by Michael Schaffer (Member # 1204) on 06-07-2005, 03:35 AM:
 

quote: Leo Enticknap

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You quite frequently hear of people who are convicted for murders and GBH who turn out to have previous convictions for animal cruelty - it does seem to be an indicator that if they're prepared to do that sort of thing to pets, they're capable of doing it to humans, too.

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Animal cruelty is almost the norm as a stage in the "development" of serial killers. The key here is that many people who perpetrate violence on other living beings are really cowards who can not cope with their aggressions and frustrations in other ways. They "practice" on the completely helpless - small animals - and often "graduate" to violence against people when the "kick" they get from animal cruelty has worn off.
 

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Posted by Jon Miller (Member # 163) on 06-07-2005, 06:14 PM:
 
Exact punishement in proportion to just one kitten per Brad's formula isn't enough. That man should be hurled out the window as many times as there were kittens in the litter and then, after all that, be subjected to John Walsh's piano wire plan. Maybe that would serve as a warning to others...

(Owned and operated by two cats.)
 

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Posted by Dave Williams (Member # 299) on 06-08-2005, 02:10 AM:
 
I too am a cat dad. My three cat children would love to take a crack at this jackass.

Some people consider them just pets, and that is where the disconnect gets started. They are not pets, they are family.

Fry the bastard, very very slowly.

Ciao
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 06-08-2005, 03:15 AM:
 
I've been hesitant to comment in this thread cuz I would probably come off as some vigilante... Where the hell is Charles Bronson when ya need him?

I have NO words to describe what ***I*** would like to do to these POS "people."

That incident is just the tip of the iceberg: Animal Abuse
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-08-2005, 05:40 AM:
 
It's good to see that someone is outing these offenders.

If anyone did anything like that to my cat I would want them to meet a slow and painful end, too. But things have moved on since the days of The Old Testament. We should deal with the bastards with extreme prejudice (e.g. lock them up for a very long time), but not by sinking to their level.

The Animal Abuse website is a very good idea. As Michael points out, animal abuse is a strong indicator that an offender is likely to graduate to humans. By keeping the spotlight on these people (same principle as the Sex Offenders Register in Britain) you can help to keep that risk down.

About two years ago in my neighbourhood there was a teenage thug who started firing his air rifle at the local cats, badly hurting one of them. The Police refused to do anything for lack of evidence, and the local paper wouldn't even publish a photo of him holding the gun, taken by a resident from her upstairs window, for fear of being sued. A few days later, copies of the photo, together with another photo showing the injured cat, started to appear on lamp posts and fences in the area. The yob was never seen again, and there was no further shooting incident.
 

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