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"Kayleighs have always been a pain, and have never met a Poppy who was not hyperactive or not very bright."

"I have never met a Chloe that didn't have a nasty, spiteful streak. Jordan is usually pretty bad for a girl and Kyle always spells trouble!"

"...names that inspire dread for me are Ashley, Ryan, Daemon & Troy for boys and Leanne, Kayleigh, Stacey and Lou-Lou for girls."

"Josh by a wide mile. Always an arrogant, nasty, selfish git."

"Liam; always a bad lad."

"Just you wait - the Chardonnays will start coming through soon."

"In my last school the nightmare girls had unexpetedly traditional names - Katherine, Stephanie etc, as well as an utter horror called Sabrina."

"Worst children were called Sasha and William. Spoilt nasty little gits."

"I have a Jake who is indeed 'satans spawn!'" [sic - the fact that a teacher is writing this and [s]he can't even use the possessive apostrophe is a bit worrying, IMHO]

"Do any of you teach any Kylies? All the Kylie's that i know are really nasty..." [ditto]

"My Katie is 3 going on 30 and a mardy madam with a naughty streak a mile wide -also bright wich makes it worse."

"charlottes tend to be okay, unles their abbreviated form is "charlie". then they generally prove to be a nightmare"

"Ryan on the other hand, and Kiefer... urgh!"

"Student names that fill me with dread:
Boys - Scott, Reece, Josh, Ryan, Liam, Jack, Tom
Girls - Kimberley, Shenice (and any other name ending in 'ice'), Jade "

"My daughter had a girl called Heaven-Leigh in her class last year. Each to their own I guess. She seems nice enough but have noticed that she is very good at bending the truth, telling stories which aren't true. I find for a 5 year old thats a bit worrying."

"Taking the article in the Mirror seriously for a second ....... we could be causing thousands of children to feel stigmatised and bullied. Oh, hang on a minute - you give your child a name like Tiffany-Jo-Jo and expect them not to feel STIGMATISED AND BULLIED!!"

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-23-2005, 12:11 PM:
 
Kids who have their names spelled weirdly, or who have strange names, are always trouble. I think it's because they go around in a constant state of irritation at having to spell or explain their name for everyone they meet. You should give your kid an accepted name, not a new "made-up" name, and spell the name in a way that's considered "normal" for where you live.
 

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Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 09-23-2005, 12:27 PM:
 
I heard a black woman named Sarah on a talk show last week say that she legally changed her name -- from something like "Shaniquiriamoobambo.." -- to a name that, as she said, "means something". She had grown up bitter towards her parents for giving her a silly, made up name.
 

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Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 09-23-2005, 12:50 PM:
 
My wife and I are expecting our first child. Matthew if its a boy and Hannah if its a girl. Those are fairly standard choices not many people will butcher I hope. The names given to most kids since the late 80's are just plain dumb. You know . . . names like Connor, Jordan, Cormick, Asshole . . . sorry about that.

I once read someplace that when you name your children avoid using accent marks or hyphens when reporting the new births to the Social Security bureaucracy. If a child's social security card contains such marks and they grow up not using them on official documents, they may not be eligible to collect a social security check for whatever reason until new paperwork is filed and card issued. The article was geared mainly towards black parents.

As a teacher, most kids I've met are idiots regardless of their name.
 

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Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 09-23-2005, 02:19 PM:
 
This website SAYS IT ALL.

Baby's Named A Bad, Bad, Thing!

Be sure to read it ALL. Lots of laughter and WTF's here!

-Aaron
 

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Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 09-23-2005, 03:46 PM:
 

quote: Aaron Mehocic

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As a teacher, most kids I've met are idiots regardless of their name

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Most teachers I've met are idiots regardless of their name. Like kids, though, there are some that are pretty smart.
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 09-23-2005, 05:21 PM:
 
Well put Daryl. In general, I've met many more smart, honest, and down-to-earth kids than teachers...including college.

I can think of a handful of "great" teachers I had when growing up... and several my kids had that were true inspirations and genuinely took an interest in their job and the kids.

It seems the majority of the public school teachers (at least in Michigan and Cali) just want to hold on to their phony-bologna jobs EVEN though they are crappy teachers and unqualified to teach and set good examples to the youngins'.

On the subject of kid's names, I was reading somewhere recently (Time, Newsweek?) that parents who name their kids with offbeat, weird, or unusual, or "non-American" [white] sounding names are actually shortchanging their kids for life.

It seems that after all these years, there still is a big portion of people of ALL colors that prejudge based on a name and those kids have less of a chance for a good education, a good job, and therefore the "good" life. So, when yous fill out that resume, use a "white" name.

I thought that very interesting and food for thought.
 

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Posted by Mark Hajducki (Member # 1732) on 09-23-2005, 06:04 PM:
 
Related artical from Scotsman Newspaper. Different regions will have different 'problem names'

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CHILDREN with unfortunate names have long been the victims of playground taunts.

However, it seems the "give a kid a bad name" phenomenon is equally rife in the staff room after teachers admitted they use the class register to predict pupils' behaviour.

Topping the list of troublemakers are Jordan, Kyle, Ashley, Jade, Kayleigh and Chelsea. Any child with a surname or a place name as their Christian name is also likely to be identified as a problem pupil.

The revelation that teachers are putting black marks by pupils' names even before they meet them, comes in an internet forum on behaviour on the Times Educational Supplement website. One teacher, using the name "heather220", writes: "Isn't it funny how we all have similar names that send a shiver down our spine when we read over the register for the first time?"

Children named Jordan are described by teachers as: "a definite no-no"; "a really psychotic kid"; and "uh-oh, sneaky and dangerous". The name Kyle provoked responses such as: "usually spawn of the devil" and "someone lock him up". As for Ashleys, they were declared: "worse than evil" and "no words to describe the terror".

The deep aversion teachers feel towards certain pupils is even affecting the names they give their own offspring. One Scottish teacher said: "It's amazing how restricted your choice becomes because so many names bring horrible visions into your mind. Will never call a child John-David or Angus."

Some teachers have even categorised the most disturbing names into groups. "Octagon" wrote: "I've always found students with surnames as Christian names eg Spencer, Cameron, Mitchell, Harrison and Taylor are all awful."

Another cautioned: "Avoid any child whose name is shared with a place: Jordan, Chelsea, Georgia etc."

Andrew Mellor, the manager of the Scottish Schools Ethos Network at Edinburgh University, said such debates should not be taken too seriously. "This kind of thing is part of teachers' mythology. There may be an element of class snobbery, but teachers are just having fun with names."

But psychologists said names could sometimes be an indication of behaviour. Dr Cynthia McVey, a psychologist at Glasgow Caledonian University, said there were two possible explanations why children with the same name were perceived to behave in similar ways.

"If a teacher gets an idea that children with certain names behave in a certain way, they will look for behaviour that reinforces their beliefs. However, it could be that different types of people are attracted to certain names for their children and then encourage their children in behaviour that is not considered positive by teachers."

If Dr McVey is right and names can be an indication of a person's behaviour, then anyone planning to name their daughter Shannon might be wise to reconsider. One posting by a teacher using the name "rowen" read: "Any verdicts on Shannons? I'm afraid to say my view is future hooker."

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Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 09-24-2005, 12:14 AM:
 
My legal name is Will,not Willie, William, Wilburforce, etc, etc, etc!

Anyhow, this was a very big problem for me growing up. As a kid many of an adult would argue with me about my name, insisting that it could in no way be just Will. And several times I would either just ignore people, which would then piss them off because in their eyes I was being a spoiled brat, or I would look at them and ask if their name was "fuckhead", "shit fer brains" or the like. Of course they would be shocked and offended...so I would tell them to either get my name right or I would continue to fuck with their names!

A memorible incident for me was when I formally enlisted into the USAF. To make a long story short, a Marine was completing my formal contract and tried to mess with a few things, including my name. It took him some time to complete the typing, and of course there were many other enlistees in line behind me. No problem. I tore the contract up in front of the Marines face and told him to retype it corectly. Of course the Marine was PO'ed and tried to chew my ass. But I told him to shut the fuck up, as I had not formally enlisted and could go home if I so pleased. He retyped the contract.
 

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Posted by Olivia Coleman (Member # 3193) on 09-24-2005, 02:20 AM:
 
I had kids tease me because of how uncommon my name was growing up. Never had teachers dislike me, though. I think I'm on the ok side of the spectrum! (Though, when I started going by a nickname so many teachers misspelled it constantly. Lyvvy, sounds like Livvie... All thoughout high school there was one teacher who could never get it right. I didn't care too much since it's just a nickname!)

I'm expecting my first child in Feb. We have discussed such names as Anna Marie and Cole Angel. I think those are in the ok area from what I read so far. (We don't find out the sex of the baby till the second week of Oct.)
 

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Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 09-24-2005, 09:50 AM:
 
Then there are initials. In an episode of M.A.S.H., B.J. explained that his parents had given him initials as a name because they couldn't decide on a name. When he was inducted into the Army there was no official provision in the paper work for that. So some clerk, in order to avoid confusion had noted his name as B.(only) J.(only) hoping to prevent problems. Later papers from the military had his name as Bonly Jonly Hunnicutt. You know it has to have happened to somebody in real life too.
 

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Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 09-24-2005, 11:10 AM:
 
Wonder if that episode had any historical connections with the "S" in Harry S. Truman who was President during the Korean War. When Truman was born, his parents could not settle on a middle name so they just left it as "S".

quote: Phil Hill

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It seems the majority of the public school teachers (at least in Michigan and Cali) just want to hold on to their phony-bologna jobs EVEN though they are crappy teachers and unqualified to teach and set good examples to the youngins'.

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Agreed. As is the case in any profession there is always a few that spoil it for the rest. I think the reason as to why many wash out of teaching is because you are asking an adult to reason like a kid for 30+ years. Very few can pull off the transition between the two worlds. Mix in the assholes only interested in sports and the snobs who compare every kid they ever have to the one student that made it to the top and you get the picture.
 

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Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 09-24-2005, 12:07 PM:
 
I think a childs name speaks volumes about the parents.

Some douchebag who is willing to force his offspring to go through live with a name like "Appolonia" has GOT to be a stupid fuck! It is the kids who have to live in the aftermath of the parent's stupid decision.

Any affect in the child's behavior is partially due to, as others said, frustration in growing up with a freaky name. However, the overriding cause of shitty behavior is poor upbringing in the first place.

If a parent is stupid enough to give a child a fucked up name they are probably not smart enough to raise a child correctly int he first place.
 

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Posted by Alan Gouger (Member # 543) on 09-24-2005, 12:22 PM:
 
I remember seeing an episode on 20/20 ( not sure of the exact show) where they were discussing the repercussions of names in the job field. They took a African American lady and gave her a typical AA name and sent her out to get a job. They had her call a list of job offerings listed in the local paper. When calling shortly after giving her name she was told the job had been filled. They then gave her a typical Caucasian name to use and had her call back the same listings within minutes and she received an invitation for and interview by almost all of those who previously told her the job had been filled.
 

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Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 09-24-2005, 12:24 PM:
 
It's the parents who give their children conventional names spelt in weird ways that seriously have something to answer for (e.g. Chevaughn or K'Tee - I've not making those up).
 

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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 09-24-2005, 12:29 PM:
 
This is a really interesting thread.

For fun, I went through my list of employees I've had over the past 26 years (around 60 names) and made a list of the ones I considered exemplary people, and the ones I was glad to see go down the road, either by my firing them or them leaving on their own. The rest fell into the 'average' category.

I wound up with 16 names on the "not-so-good" list, 26 on the "good" list, and the rest in the 'average' category. Sure enough -- there are a lot more "normal" type names among the very best people. Names like Tom, Jim, Michelle, Kim, Mary, Diane, Sherri, Molly, Melissa, and Miranda.

I thought about listing all the "bad" names here but that's just a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[ 09-24-2005, 02:37 PM: Message edited by: Mike Blakesley ]
 

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Posted by Bruce McGee (Member # 131) on 09-24-2005, 03:16 PM:
 
My mother does disability exams for the state. A woman stated that her kids were named Lemonjello, and Orangjello. Is it not obvious that she got that from a Jello box?

Absolutely TRUE. I wouldn't make this shit up!
 

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Posted by Alan Gouger (Member # 543) on 09-24-2005, 03:20 PM:
 
I also beleive this works with girls names Ive dated. Ive had some dussies.
I now put woman In catagories based by name (I have them figured out) even before I meet them:)
 

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Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 09-24-2005, 03:22 PM:
 
Snopes has a section on some of the odd names like Lemonjello and Nosmo King, etc...

-Aaron
 

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Posted by Aaron Mehocic (Member # 15) on 09-24-2005, 03:24 PM:
 

quote: Alan Gouger

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When calling shortly after giving her name she was told the job had been filled.

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Some douchebag who is willing to force his offspring to go through live with a name like "Appolonia" has GOT to be a stupid fuck!

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quote: Olivia Coleman

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Cole Angel

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There is an alleged overheard conversation between two women in a Glasgow Station of "If I have another wean then I'll call it Pocahontas (pocohonis)"

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That gives her a bit of a problem if it turns out to be a boy.
 

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Posted by Olivia Coleman (Member # 3193) on 09-24-2005, 09:37 PM:
 

quote: Mike Blakesley

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You've got to be kidding. Is that a boy's name? If so, prepare to have a kid who will be afraid/ashamed to admit what his middle name is for his whole life, especially when he's about 12.

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Well that is what my husband's middle name is. That was the reason for choosing Angel. (He's Spanish-Mexican...) And we still have a few months before the decision is finial.

Another note about middle names: I never disliked my middle name but most people do not pronounce it correctly. (It's Magdalene.)
 

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Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 09-24-2005, 09:43 PM:
 
I wouldn't worry as much about the middle name as the first name. Cole Coleman would get teased as much as we used to tease Will Wilson.
 

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Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 09-24-2005, 11:46 PM:
 
This seems like the appropriate time and place for this TRUE story:

A while back in Florida, this Native American Indian boy asked his dad, the Chief, how he chose the names for his kids. The Chief replied:

"I choose the names by what I see when my children are born. I chose your sister's name, "Beautiful Morning" because it was. I chose your brother's name "White Cloud" because the sky was majestic with them.

Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?"

(Sorry I couldn't resist!)
 

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Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 09-25-2005, 01:49 AM:
 
Worst name I've come across I found while I worked at DMV in 1969 operating a collator that inserted replacement drivers license punch cards and kicked out the old card. While the machine was running a batch of cards we would look thru the cards looking for awful names. The worst I think was Enema. Often wondered if it was pronounced with a long E or what.
 

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Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 09-25-2005, 02:07 AM:
 
If I ever have a child that's a boy, his name will be Arnold Schwarzenegger Heenan. LEt's see anyone pick on him! Either that or Wolf Blitzer Heenan. What a cool f'in name that guy has.
 

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Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 09-25-2005, 12:19 PM:
 
They

If ya have a boy, the best way to keep people from picking on him is by naming him something like "Sue"!

Really wanna feel sorry for kids....what about "Cher" naming her daughter after a sex prevention device....or what about Frank Zappa's kids!
 

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Posted by Olivia Coleman (Member # 3193) on 09-25-2005, 02:27 PM:
 

quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea

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I wouldn't worry as much about the middle name as the first name. Cole Coleman would get teased as much as we used to tease Will Wilson.

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