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Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 11-29-2005, 11:10 AM:

Something I've noticed lately:

When you wash your hands, do you apply soap before wetting your hands or after?

Similarly, when you brush your teeth, do you wet the brush before you apply toothpaste or after?

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 11-29-2005, 11:30 AM:

Strange question! It depends on what type of soap; if it's the liquid stuff, then soap first, if it's a bar of soap, then there's not much point in rubbing it on dry hands, so water first. Toothpaste first.

Posted by Dieter Depypere (Member # 3184) on 11-29-2005, 11:50 AM:

Concerning the soap same is true 4 me, but i wet my toothbrush before applying paste. But why u wanna know? [Confused]

Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 11-29-2005, 12:06 PM:

I could care less, but it's something I couldn't help noticing, and wondering if people had a preference.

Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 11-29-2005, 12:14 PM:

Liquid soap before washing. Wet the toothbrush before applying toothpaste. Don't know why.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 11-29-2005, 12:21 PM:

I rinse off the brush to get rid of any "night dust", put the toothpaste on, then give it a very quick run through the water again. I can't explain this but that's what I do.

I wet my hands before grabbing the soap too. The only time I don't is if I'm using "hand cleaner" like Gojo or similar, then I wait until after scrubbing to use water.

Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 11-29-2005, 01:01 PM:

I'm the same as Mike.
I don't know why either, but I'm not really concerned.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 11-29-2005, 01:06 PM:

I don't wet the brush at all. I put on toothpaste and then brush my teeth, then rinse the brush off thoroughly. Works great. I think I've had one cavity in my entire life, and certainly none for the past 15 years.

I wet my hands before using soap. I also wet my hair before applying shampoo, because I know you wanna know that as well.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 11-29-2005, 02:30 PM:

Some people just take their teeth out and put them in a glass of Polident. [Big Grin]

Posted by Bob Maar (Member # 763) on 11-29-2005, 03:23 PM:

John: How did you know? [Embarrassed]

P.S. I use "Stain Away! [thumbsup]

Posted by Jarryd Beard (Member # 2543) on 11-29-2005, 04:08 PM:

I always wet my hands first, regardless of liquid or bar soap. Also, I wet the brush, apply paste, and re-wet the paste. (Taking care not to knock the paste off the brush.)

My one friend uses hot water in the method I just described for the tooth brush. It drove me nuts when I found this out for the first time. Anybody else do this?

Posted by Richard Fowler (Member # 893) on 11-29-2005, 04:44 PM:

What a topic [Big Grin]

I use watered down soap in pumps for hand cleaning with one less step to get the job done. I used to travel six months a year and got into the habit of pre-wetting my toothbrush with hyrogen peroxide not knowing what was coming out of the water taps in a out of the country hotel room....this was recommended by my dentist and my brush and teeth get a slight bonus in whitening [Wink]

Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 11-29-2005, 05:12 PM:

Never heard of hot water on the toothbrush, although a quick dip in some peroxide wouldn't hurt!

Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 11-29-2005, 05:13 PM:

Jarryd, I use hot water also.
I just find that it works better, especially when rinsing off my toothbrush after I'm done brushing.
I think it's because any germs and leftover toothpaste feel the hot water, think to themselves "Shit, this water is HOT!" and leave.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-29-2005, 05:19 PM:

quote: John Pytlak
...take their teeth out and put them in a glass...

Bob's teeth are like the stars... They come out at night. Wow! What a gummer!

quote: Cory Isemann
...but it's something I couldn't help noticing...

Gosh Cory, you asking about peoples personal hygiene habits make me wonder if you hang around public restrooms at the airport or the bus station...

Anyway, IF you *MUST* really know, I personally do exactly as Joe posted. He's my hero ya know! [beer]

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 11-29-2005, 05:56 PM:

Rinse hands before soaping up, unless using those dry paste degreasers like Goop.

Like some others here, rinse brush before applying the dentifrice, then wet brush and dentifrice together prior to brushing teeth.

Been doing it that way since small kid time. Don't know why. Never thought to ask. [beer]

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 11-29-2005, 06:38 PM:

what the hell is "dentifrice"?

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-29-2005, 06:47 PM:

Rick, Professor Paul is just trying to IMPRESS us with his vocabulary.

We ALL know a "dentifrice" is that suction-cup device used to pop out the dents from one's car.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 11-29-2005, 06:51 PM:

The fiberglass on my car doesn't dent, I guess that's why I dont know what dentifrice is.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-29-2005, 06:54 PM:

Sorry can't help you with that... Having had several Corvettes, I know about fiberglass cracking... [Wink]

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 11-29-2005, 07:44 PM:

On brushing, I don't just wet the brush I wash it thoroughly. Fecal coliform and all sorts of other bacteria (including strep and staff) can collect on a toothbrush. But if it's more fun for someone to risk brushing their teeth with small amounts of poo and flesh eating bacteria have a great time gambling!

A wet toothbrush also seems to feel a bit more pleasant on the gumline than a dry brush. The same goes for any toothbrush with less than 3 months of use on it.

Soap?

With bar soap, wet hands first, apply soap, lather, rinse, repeat if necessary, then explode the bombs you made as a by-product of the soap making process.

Bar soap on dry hands? How would it lather?

With the liquid soap, either way works, so its up to everyone to make their own choice. Just like how you choose to install a roll of toilet paper (over or under).

Posted by Jon Miller (Member # 163) on 11-29-2005, 08:02 PM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
what the hell is "dentifrice"?

It's a product that gives your dents the frights. [Smile]

(Okay, enough joking around...it's just a fancy term for any product in any form used to clean teeth: toothpaste, baking soda, presumably even Polident.)

As far as hand washing, as long as liquid soap or "Foam Soap" is available, I first apply the soap and rub it in, then wet hands, lather up, and rinse.

Speaking of washing hands...anyone see that Ford Fusion commercial with the chef who straightens up and leaves the restroom straight from the "stall" [Eek!]

, much to the disgusted surprise of another restroom user dutifully washing his hands? Even if the ad doesn't sell cars, at least it should hopefully raise consciousness about proper restroom procedure. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Wayne Keyser (Member # 2420) on 11-29-2005, 08:25 PM:

Sloppy research, my friend.

I wet my hands with distilled water first, then apply exactly 0.7 ounces of hospital-grade germicidal cleanser, scrub vigorously for one minute, rinse and then dry with a hot-air dryer (never know what's on those towels).

Yours truly,

Adrian Monk

Posted by Daryl C. W. O'Shea (Member # 1303) on 11-29-2005, 10:16 PM:

quote: Phil Hill
Having had several Corvettes, I know about fiberglass cracking...

That's what you get for buying a composite piece of [bs]

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-30-2005, 03:13 AM:

Thank you sir, may I have another?

Posted by Carl Martin (Member # 1146) on 11-30-2005, 03:23 AM:

just what are you using your toothbrush for, bobby?

for those of you who lather up before adding water, do you turn the water on first of all, or do you get soap all over the tap? why don't we have more foot-pedal faucets?

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-30-2005, 03:36 AM:

Ya know Carl, I was thinking the same thing.

So Bobby, why would there be fecal matter on your toothbrush? [puke]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 11-30-2005, 06:04 AM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
either way works, so its up to everyone to make their own choice. Just like how you choose to install a roll of toilet paper (over or under).

It may be a choice, but I have to question the intelligence of people who install the toilet paper "under". Think about it. First off you can't see where the break is in the roll when it sticks, which forces the user to fumble with the roll, spinning it around until the end breaks free. Also it is putting the toilet paper up against the wall where everyone's hands are touching (fumbling around for the end of the roll). And yes, those are the same hands that others have been wiping their ass with before washing them. [Roll Eyes]

What's extra aggravating are the public restrooms where for some reason the installers felt the need to mount the toilet paper dispenser one foot off of the ground. And of course it's always that "tensioned" designed dispenser that causes the paper to break every few inches! [Mad]

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-30-2005, 06:11 AM:

I agree, Brad! I also think the ONLY way for the TP roll to be mounted is the "over" way for easy and clean access. [thumbsup]

In my younger days before I realized I was a "top", I prefered the "under" roll. But when I came to my senses, I knew the proper way was the "over" way.

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 11-30-2005, 06:43 AM:

As long as we're on the TP issue ... I agree, OVER. But I've found that the fumbling issue, or easy access, is just personal preference, as it's not hard to adapt to an under-roll. It's all in what you expect to find when you habitually go to spin. My under-rolling friends aren't swayed by this argument.

That said, the reason I give for why TP is is designed to go OVER is simple. The flowers, or whatever-the-heck design yours may come with (if it has any), are UPSIDE DOWN if you put the roll backwards. Ta da!

I wet my hands and toothbrush like crazy in a washing/brushing situation: before, after, during, physically, emotionally, metaphysically. [Big Grin]

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 11-30-2005, 06:56 AM:

When I stay at hotels, I always turn the roll so it is under. I only do this to screw with the housekeeping people, because they always change it back and fold the corners of the top peice over to make it look pretty [Smile]

I keep my toothbrush in a glass on the floor next to the toilet. This way it usually stays moist. If it is a little crusty, then I found the best solution is to scrape the bristles on the holes under the rim of the toilet, then just swish it around inside the toiletbowl. This saves me time because I can do all this as I am bent down getting the brush. It also saves me money, because I don't waste water by using the faucet! And it also keeps the toilet clean and flowing very freely. If you try this, just one suggestion, don't use that crap that makes the water blue, I had a problem with my teeth getting stained!

Rick

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 11-30-2005, 07:04 AM:

Rick, you're sick! I like that in a person! [thumbsup]

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 11-30-2005, 09:53 AM:

quote:
Something I've noticed lately:

This thread has made me notice alot lately also, so any input would be appreciated.

Cable or Satallite?
Long sleeve, or short sleeve?
2 door or 4 door?
Film-Tech or Cinematour?
Ford or Chevy?
Stick or auto?
Condom or not? If yes, then Ribbed or lubed. If ribbed, then lubed also?
DTS or Dolby?
Super8 or Motel6?
Spit or Swallow?
Laptop or desktop?
Coke or Pepsi?
MSN or AIM?
Freeway or Highway?
Masturbate with left hand or right hand?
1 ply or 2 ply?
Plasma or LCD?
Wallpaper or paint?
High-speed or dial up?
Camaro or Trans-Am?
T-Top or convertable?
When approaching stairs, lead with right foot or left foot on first step?
Gas or Electric?
McDonalds or Wendys?
Sneakers or loafers?

This list is endless, but this thread has raised many concerns for me, to the point I am having trouble sleeping at night and concentrating at work. I just want to make sure I am doing things right. The input about how to wash my hands and brush my teeth has been outstanding! And the toilet paper!!! Who knew???

Thanks in advance, Rick

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 11-30-2005, 11:00 AM:

Where have you been Rick, sleepwalking? We've done that one to death already. [Big Grin]

Oh, and I concur with Dr. Phil's assessment of you. You Sir are one sick duck. Please take that as a complement from someone who knows sick in the biblical sense. The world needs more people like us. Keep up the good work. [thumbsup]

When I stay in nice hotels I carefully remove that paper wrap they place around the toilet seat then replace it each day before I leave the room. I also fold the end of the TP roll. By the third day the maids are leaving complementary bottles of laxative along with the mints on my pillows. Sometimes I even get notes like, "Drink this, Lizard."*

And it's obvious some of yous have never lived with a cat that makes great sport out of unreeling TP onto the floor. Loading the TP emulsion out cures that one - no more TP Monsters. Spike has long since slipped the surly bonds, but in his memory I continue to load the TP emulsion out.

* Thank you Jerry Van Dyke

[ 12-04-2005, 04:32 AM: Message edited by: Paul Mayer ]

Posted by James R. Hammonds, Jr (Member # 673) on 11-30-2005, 11:14 AM:

I'v always been a toilet paper over guy, but I tried for a while doing it under because I thought it might stop a toddler from emptying halh the roll onto the floor.
Unfortunately, the cats were the wiser and figured it out anyway.

Posted by Jason M Miller (Member # 2597) on 11-30-2005, 11:55 AM:

I also agree the TP should go over.....but for me wet before soap on the hands and before toothpaste on the brush.

Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 11-30-2005, 12:32 PM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
Cable or Satallite?
Long sleeve, or short sleeve?
2 door or 4 door?
Film-Tech or Cinematour?
Ford or Chevy?
Stick or auto?
Condom or not? If yes, then Ribbed or lubed. If ribbed, then lubed also?
DTS or Dolby?
Super8 or Motel6?
Spit or Swallow?
Laptop or desktop?
Coke or Pepsi?
MSN or AIM?
Freeway or Highway?
Masturbate with left hand or right hand?
1 ply or 2 ply?
Plasma or LCD?
Wallpaper or paint?
High-speed or dial up?
Camaro or Trans-Am?
T-Top or convertable?
When approaching stairs, lead with right foot or left foot on first step?
Gas or Electric?
McDonalds or Wendys?
Sneakers or loafers?

Cable
2 Door
Film-Tech
Chevy
Stick
Not (if insisted on - not lubricated or ribbed - nothing in it for me there)
Dolby
Super 8
Neither
Laptop
Pepsi
AIM
Freeway
Right Hand
2 Ply
Wallpaper
High Speed
Camaro
Convertible
Right foot
Electric
Wendys
Sneakers

Hope this helps you to sleep better at night.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 11-30-2005, 12:57 PM:

Paul, I vaguely remember that thread. I think I was out of the country and not on Film-tech for most of it.

Mike,
Thanks! I have so many more decisions to make, but I will try to get a handle on everything myself. I think I should overcome all of these major decisions in life on my own!! Hehe. [beer]

Later guys, Rick

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 11-30-2005, 02:35 PM:

Mike!!! Long sleeve or short sleeve??? [Eek!]

Posted by Mike Spaeth (Member # 524) on 11-30-2005, 02:57 PM:

Long

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 11-30-2005, 08:22 PM:

quote: Phil Hill
So Bobby, why would there be fecal matter on your toothbrush?

Because my toothbrush isn't stored in a sterilzed, vacuum sealed container. Fecal coliform can be found in lots of places, not just the toilet bowl.

I like Richard's approach on the subject though. If there's a good chance some fecal coliform is going to settle on the toothbrush -then just accept the situation with full bravado.

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 11-30-2005, 11:59 PM:

And besides, aren't Marines trained in boot camp to use toothbrushes to clean their latrines? Will have to ask Gunny Ermey 'bout that next time I sees him...

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 12-01-2005, 05:12 PM:

Paul, when I was in Basic Training, we had to clean the tile grout with "our" toothbrushes. But of course, we never used our own...we snuck the DI's and the barracks sergeant's toothbrushes for that chore... [beer]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 12-02-2005, 04:43 AM:

Phil strikes me as someone who would pee in the shower.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-02-2005, 07:09 AM:

quote: Brad Miller
Phil strikes me as someone who would pee in the shower.

Doesn't everybody do that? I do it for 2 reasons. The first is , as I mentioned earlier I try to conserve water. So I save a few gallons of water by not having to flush the toilet. Of course, I make sure I pee when I am busy washing my hair, because if I just stop and pee, then I'm wasting more water by running the shower faucet. The second reason is, this way I don't get any pee on my tooth brush [Smile]

Shit, I just realized this brings up another issue for me. In a shower that is in a full size bathtub, do I stand torward the drain or away? I must say it is rather warm if you face away from the drain and the pee has to drain between your toes to get to the drain! In square shower stalls, this isn't a problem because the drain is in the middle. On those it is kinda fun to just aim for one of the holes in the drain cover though!

Oh yeah, I never do this if the drain is clogged with hair and there ends up being standing water in the shower. That would just be sick [Big Grin]

Rick

[ 12-02-2005, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: Richard Hamilton ]

Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 12-02-2005, 08:08 AM:

I always figured everyone peed in the shower. It's a drain, right?

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-02-2005, 08:18 AM:

quote: Cory Isemann
I always figured everyone peed in the shower. It's a drain, right?

Good point Cory, I think from now on, I can pee in the shower or bathtub even if I am not taking a shower. I never really thought of that. I guess any sink would serve the same purpose? [thumbsup]

Is "peed" really a word? I know pissed is, but I dont know the past tense of pee. Is it Pee, or Pee'd. Shit, more things to think about!

Rick

[ 12-02-2005, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: Richard Hamilton ]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 12-02-2005, 10:28 AM:

I don't pee in the shower. Only diarrhea. And I let the tub get full (with diarrhea) before I open the drain.

Posted by Floyd Justin Newton (Member # 1316) on 12-02-2005, 10:46 AM:

Figures!
[Big Grin]

Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 12-02-2005, 12:52 PM:

I'm sure "Urinated" would be the best word to use, but "peed" sounds funnier.

Joe, I'm not surprised.

Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 12-02-2005, 02:54 PM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
I just realized this brings up another issue for me. In a shower that is in a full size bathtub, do I stand torward the drain or away?

http://delicategeniusblog.com/?p=66

quote:
She believes that men, when showering, face towards the shower head while women face away. Could this be true?...

So, the question, dear reader is - What’s your gender and which way do you face? And if you agree with the DGW, what’s your theory as to why?

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 12-02-2005, 03:33 PM:

Pee'd vs pissed... Hmmmm. I'm inclined to go with 'pee'd' (or however you spell it) since 'pissed' could also mean 'angry' or 'annoyed' or 'drunk'.

For example, "Joe pee'd in the sink." vis-a-vis "Joe pissed in the sink." The use of 'pissed' here could be ambiguous, especially to those for whom the written form of The King's English is a bit of a struggle. "Pee'd" is much clearer in meaning, even for the English-challenged.

BTW, Joe pees in pools. Or was it 'Joe pees into pools'? Location, location, location.*

* Thank you Demetri Martin.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 12-02-2005, 05:35 PM:

So Cory, do you pee in the kitchen sink too? It also has a drain...

Joe: I hope your bathtub has one of those lever thingies at the drain vent so you don't have to reach thru all that sh!t to pull the cork from the drain...

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-02-2005, 06:21 PM:

No, "peed" is correct. An apostrophe always signifies at least one missing letter, such as "isn't" for "is not."

So, a correct statement would be "I peed in the shower and it ran down the drain, but my pee'd be deeper if the drain was clogged."

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-02-2005, 07:21 PM:

I think most guys piss in the shower. Buddy Hackett defined a guy with class being someone who got out of the shower to take a piss. And then I think he followed the remark with "f**k that classy guy!"

There's little, if any, health hazard posed by pee. Anyone in decent health will have sterile urine. Yes, that comment from Patches O'Houlihan about urine being sterile is true. As for the enjoying how it tastes....
[puke]

And then there's the old home remedy of pissing on your toes to cure athlete's foot. Not sure if that really works though. I'd go for the science-proven Miconazole topical drugs.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-02-2005, 09:29 PM:

I don't know if it was Hackett, but I heard a comedian once say "He's got a lot of class...he takes the dishes out of the sink before he pees in it."

Posted by Jeremy Jorgenson (Member # 2989) on 12-02-2005, 11:01 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
An apostrophe always signifies at least one missing letter

Always? Or just when said apostrophe is being used to create a contraction? [Smile]

What about when it signifies possession, or (in certain instances) pluralization?

Or, what about if it's used in a proper noun ... if that is indeed how the name is properly spelled, is it actually replacing a letter?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-03-2005, 12:38 PM:

All right, ALL RIGHT! Point taken. [Big Grin]

Posted by Cory Isemann (Member # 2517) on 12-04-2005, 01:04 PM:

No, Phil, I don't pee in the sink although it has a drain.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 12-04-2005, 05:48 PM:

[Wink]

Posted by Jeremy Jorgenson (Member # 2989) on 10-15-2006, 01:11 AM:

back to the original question...

quote: Cory Isemann
When you wash your hands, do you apply soap before wetting your hands or after?

I thought of this post when I was in the train station in Bristol, England. In the bathroom there (at least in the public men's room) they have an automatic unit that drops liquid soap on your hands, then water, then dries your hands. You don't have an option of which order they come ...

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 10-15-2006, 11:52 PM:

Well, you COULD trigger the infrared beam with your hands then quickly dodge the spurt of soap but stay within view of the beam until the water comes on then wet your hands under the water. Next, you would take your hands OUT of range of the sensor then, after the unit resets, retrigger it to get some soap and, again, wait for the water so you can rinse off.

That seems like a hell of a lot of work just to wash your hands but, what the hell! You should do it just to prove that it CAN be done! [Wink]

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 10-16-2006, 10:58 AM:

So, do you leave the toothbrush in the bathroom? If you do, it should be a minimum of 6 ft/2 meters from the toilet due to the fine mist that comes from it when flushed. Better is to keep the toothbrush somewhere else and not in a plastic case that prevents it from drying.