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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 03-05-2006, 10:31 PM:
Well that was forgetful!
Posted by Jim Ziegler (Member # 86) on 03-05-2006, 10:37 PM:
As Reese Witherspoon was thanking everyone that had ever come into contact with a member of her family, I could just imaging what was going across the prompter:
>10 seconds
>Wrap it up
>Wrap it please
>FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WRAP IT UP!
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 03-05-2006, 10:41 PM:
The High Definition was respectably good this year. I will remember that part of it.
Mark
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-05-2006, 10:49 PM:
I only watched the last part of it, and while the HD picture was pretty good, the Dolby Digital EX HD TRU X-TREME MACH 5 sound sucked ass! The movie clips leaned to the right side, and they forgot to turn on the left surround. Lots of clapping through the right surround, though (and sometimes none up front). Whoever was responsible for the sound deserves a nasty sunburn in the face and the resulting skin cancer.
I muted Reese Witherspoon after about 5 seconds (as I did with everyone, because who cares what they have to say? Seriously! These are actors, not human beings). I saw her there ramble on and and and on. Her face is now burned into my CRT TV, but her ever-moving lips sure aren't!
Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 03-05-2006, 10:56 PM:
Oh, was that tonight?
Edit: Okay, I guess it was. I strike my earlier comment in the 2006 nominee thread wherein I stated my status as Not Giving A Crap. I revise my position by saying I'm very pleased that Wallace & Gromit took the Animated Feature. Take THAT, Burton!
I just saw Walk The Line last night, and while I cannot confirm or deny Witherspoon's "rightful" claim to the prize, she was darn cute in that film, the whole darned time! The southern twang in 'er voice came off caricaturish more times than not, but it fit her personality.
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 03-05-2006, 11:09 PM:
quote:
Well that was forgetful!
I thought it was more "forgettable."
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-05-2006, 11:16 PM:
I never heard of "Crash" until yesterday. In fact "Brokeback Mountain" was the only nominee that I had ever heard of ever. What a crappy selection! Movies I have not heard of do not deserve to be nominated for anything. When that John Woo guy won for best director I couldn't believe it. That guy has never made a good movie. That Crouching Tiger shit was one of the worst pieces of crap I'd ever seen. I hate him. How can the actors understand him when he is trying to direct? I suppose they just guess as to what they should be doing, yet Woo gets all of the credit since he is the director, technically.
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-05-2006, 11:17 PM:
Yeah, I agree, this was a sub-par year -at least in terms of the quality of the actual Oscars telecast. I think Jon Stewart did a better job hosting than Chris Rock or David Letterman (and the intro showing all the previous hosts declining the job was really funny); however, Jon wasn't quite at the top of his game. The material was a bit watered down for safety. And the audience had a collective stick up its ass. So even some of the good jokes fell flat.
While the group of honored films had a collectively more political tone, they all sort of had a blah kind of feel as well. It sure wasn't a Titanic versus L.A. Confidential kind of thing.
Most of the results on Oscar winners were extremely predictable. When the Oscars are preceeded by the DGA awards, SAG awards and other ceremonies by the time the Oscars roll around you already know who is going to win.
However, I was pretty surprised Crash took the Best Picture honor instead of Brokeback Mountain.
It was pretty funny when the rap group (whoever they were, I forget) won the Best Song Oscar. They're rappers. They talk fast. They rhyme. But dammit, their acceptance speech was gibberish. Just unintelligible rambling with marbles in the mouths.
quote: Joe Redifer
When that John Woo guy won for best director I couldn't believe it. That guy has never made a good movie.
I'm not a big Ang Lee fan. But he's a damned sight better than John Woo. I don't get the fascination with the whole John Woo action movie style. Just my opinion, but I think it's bullshit filmmaking. Calling Ang Lee a name like John Woo is quite the put down! Hehe.
Posted by Allison Parsons (Member # 2728) on 03-05-2006, 11:31 PM:
I promise that if, for some reason, I win an Oscar, I'm going to thank all the people who have/are working at a movie theater.
But other than that....
The girl who won for best make-up for Narnia is from my home town, Peoria IL.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-05-2006, 11:31 PM:
Oh yeah. Angry Lee. How the hell am I supposed to know? It is far easier to stereotype all bad Asian directors into a simple John Woo (since he is king of Asia). Didn't he also direct some crap movie about women who get along, then they get into a tipsy fit, and then they get along again? What a great director.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 03-05-2006, 11:52 PM:
Sounds like I didn't miss much.
Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 03-06-2006, 12:04 AM:
The big surprise out of the whole thing was Crash winning best picture. I even think Jack was surprised. I have to say though I liked that movie when I saw it way back last summer sometime there bouts.
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 03-06-2006, 12:11 AM:
Now, we can put the "BB" thing behind us and it will soon all but be forgotten.
Posted by Jennifer Pan (Member # 2035) on 03-06-2006, 12:23 AM:
I'm just glad it didn't take long to end.
Posted by Will Kutler (Member # 770) on 03-06-2006, 02:13 AM:
I did not watch the Awards at all. The only thing that interested me was the Memorial Tribute that I just happened to catch as I was flipping channels.
Unless I missed something all together, Al Lewis, Darren McGavin, Don Knotts and Dennis Weaver were not mentioned.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-06-2006, 02:55 AM:
Maybe because they died ths year?
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 03-06-2006, 02:55 AM:
I wonder how many people are now going to rush out to their video store and rent the Cronenberg "Crash" by mistake and then wonder what the big deal was.
Posted by William Hooper (Member # 71) on 03-06-2006, 04:42 AM:
Anybody seen pictures of the set?
It was supposed to be based on classic movie theatre interiors.
Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 03-06-2006, 05:23 AM:
There's a very small picture of it here
Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 03-06-2006, 07:00 AM:
Putting the hype aside, BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN was just not a very good picture. It was pretty to look at, but I did not find the story engaging, nor the characters interesting. I was ready to hunt down and shoot that guitar player after playing that theme over and over and over. The most annoying score since THE THIRD MAN. And, I really thought Heath Ledger was channeling Billy Bob Thornton's SLING BLADE character.
CRASH was a much better movie. It grabbed on at the beginning and didn't let up. It was tense but real. It was truly an actor's dream film.
But, the truly best film of the year was WALLACE AND GROMMIT.
Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 03-06-2006, 10:06 AM:
So no Best Actress nods for Brokeback?
Posted by Matt Fields (Member # 3211) on 03-06-2006, 10:07 AM:
Don Knotts died too close to the show...he'll be in next years tribute.
Basically the worst Oscar show ever, no surprises except the rap group, which was really funny. Crash was an upset, but it had a lot of buzz the last few weeks.
Stewart was funny, but I don't think the crowd dug him. I liked the fake political ads and some of the political jokes (knocking both the left and the right) were on target.
Posted by Bryan Fournier (Member # 264) on 03-06-2006, 10:13 AM:
Did anyone else notice the comments about seeing a film on the "big" screen vs. on a DVD at home? It seems watching a movie at the theatre is the approved AMPAS method. That's great!
Maybe the comments were a way of responding to the thought of simultaneous theatre/DVD/internet release by some distributors.
Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 03-06-2006, 11:32 AM:
The reason all actors who had died this year were not recognized in the tribute was due to the fact that the presentation honored only those who passed away in 2005. Don Knotts, Darren McGavin & Dennis Weaver will be remembered next year along with the other members of the AMPAS who pass away in 2006.
-Claude
Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 03-06-2006, 11:55 AM:
Did anyone else find the music that was played IMMEDIATELY AS WINNERS STARTED THEIR THANK YOUS so irritating that you wanted to strangle the director/producer for even trying it? I know it was there so it could rise above the speakers voice if they ran over, but it reminded me of DJ's on the radio who try to voice-over music that is so loud you can't hear either.
WTF was "Grizzly Man" in the nominations?
Posted by Eric Hooper (Member # 1730) on 03-06-2006, 12:11 PM:
quote:
It seems watching a movie at the theatre is the approved AMPAS method. That's great!
If that's the case, then why do they send out DVD screeners!
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-06-2006, 12:21 PM:
I liked that guy's comment "Nobody on a movie set stands there and thinks This is gonna look great on the DVD!"
I also liked the fake political ads. Jon Stewart I can take or leave but he was OK. The opening with clips of former hosts declining to do it again was funny.
Reese Witherspoon is awesome.
It's a shame that Don Knotts etc. won't get recognized until next year, but hopefully they'll get their moment because they deserve it.
Once again, they snubbed a core Star Trek actor: James Doohan died in 2005, and I don't think he got any mention. Bah. DeForest Kelley was overlooked when he died in 1999.
Posted by Jason Winn (Member # 3568) on 03-06-2006, 12:58 PM:
I only watched about the first hour, then it got boring, so I changed it. So, I guess I missed the last seven hours. I thought the opening with all the former hosts was pretty funny and Ben Stiller's green screen skit was pretty funny. Other than that, the show was
! I didn't care about any of the movies that were nominated. They overlooked the best movie of 2005, Alone in the Dark! That movie should've won every single oscar! (In case you didn't realize, I'm being sarcastic.)
When I win an oscar, I'm gonna thank the unsung heroes of the movie industry, the projectionists. Now, all they gotta do is come up with a new category for me. Maybe best supporting lazy-ass. That oscar has my name all over it.
By the way, the rap group that won Best Original Song was the Three 6 Mafia. I listen to a lot of underground rap music, so I know all about the triple-6. I wasn't really surprised when I heard they won. Remember a few years ago when Eminem won Best Original Song? That was shocking!
Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 03-06-2006, 01:11 PM:
I don't watch awards shows, but was happy to see that Philip Seymour Hoffman won Best Actor. He absolutely deserved that award. I was also happy to see that W&G won Best Animated Feature.
GN&GL was still my favorite release of 2005, and I am sorry that it didn't win anything.
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 03-06-2006, 01:26 PM:
The stage set was horrid.
Jon Stewart is no Billy Crystal.
The acceptance speech should be limited to an absolute max of 5 seconds. We don't need the long winded yammering. I too wore out my mute button last night.
The music playing in the back ground was indeed annoying.
By the way George Clooney, yes Hollywood is out of touch with reality, and no that is not a good thing.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-06-2006, 01:31 PM:
quote: Michael Coate
I wonder how many people are now going to rush out to their video store and rent the Cronenberg "Crash" by mistake and then wonder what the big deal was.
If only they were so lucky!
I think it was Elvis Costello who said that if he ever won a Grammy his acceptance speech would have to be "Now I know I suck." I think the same applies to the Oscars.
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 03-06-2006, 01:35 PM:
So, does anyone know how the technical aspect of the clips was handled? One assumes it was impractical for them to be run on film -- were they from consumer-quality DVDs, or some better source?
--jhawk
Posted by Scott Jentsch (Member # 1681) on 03-06-2006, 01:39 PM:
quote: William Hooper
Anybody seen pictures of the set?
It was supposed to be based on classic movie theatre interiors.
I was very impressed with the set. It took some time to figure out if the columns and other treatments were real or CGI, but then figured the stage would be pretty bland without them. I'd be proud to have a theater that had a similar theme.
The overlay messaging they did on the "marquee" above the stage was well-done.
I didn't notice any sound problems with the HD feed, and actually thought that the sound was well-done. Unfortunately, I just deleted the recording of the HDTiVo this morning, so I can't go back and check.
Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 03-06-2006, 02:03 PM:
I'm assuming all clips were run from D5HD or better server sources. The clip rolls themselves, both SD and HD, were built using multiple Avid Symphony Nitris systems at Chainsaw Post in LA.
Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 03-06-2006, 02:38 PM:
Albeit in a category with only two other nominees, I was pleased to see Curse of the Were-Rabbit win best animated feature. With the past year's tripe it should have gone for best picture
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 03-06-2006, 03:16 PM:
quote: Brad Allen
The stage set was horrid.
I disagree. I thought it looked pretty cool, especially the curved electronic marquee above the stage. It was obviously a custom built LED-based display with a really tight pitch on pixel spacing. Most full color LED-based video displays will have a 15mm to 20mm pitch between pixel centers. That one probably had something closer to 10mm pitch, if even that. Some companies like Daktronics and Barco can build such displays to order. It's also possible this might have been a demonstration piece built to nail down some other much larger sales, like displays for football stadiums.
Daktronics is finishing two huge displays for the Miami Dolphins stadium, one of which will be the Guiness World Record holder for largest video display in the world. The 137' X 50' unit will feature 2112 X 736 RGB LED clusters/pixels, with more than 4.6 million LEDs used in the display. Very very expensive. Not just the unit either. The monthly electric bill will be awesome too.
Posted by Joseph L. Kleiman (Member # 3097) on 03-06-2006, 03:21 PM:
All of the projectors used were DLP from Barco and DPI. If I'm not mistaken, the main screen was a 2K DLP Cinema projector.
I especially enjoyed the tribute to films in their original scopes.
But when do they start drowning out the acceptance speech for Best Picture with music? Come on - the show's over!
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 03-06-2006, 03:37 PM:
quote: William Hooper
It was supposed to be based on classic movie theatre interiors.
It was based on designs that famed theatre architect S. Charles Lee used in many designs & remodels for Fox West Coast Theatres. It was nicknamed the Skouras style after the Fox West Coast Theatre's president.
Academy
Posted by John Pytlak (Member # 331) on 03-06-2006, 03:39 PM:
quote:
But when do they start drowning out the acceptance speech for Best Picture with music? Come on - the show's over!
It had the misfortune to be just a few minutes before the half-hour (11:30 pm Eastern Time).
Rochester NY is celebrating Philip Seymour Hoffman's award
-- he grew up in Fairport NY, just a few miles from my house. His Mom is a Family Court judge in Rochester.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-06-2006, 04:59 PM:
DLP technology sucks ass because of the lag. It is not fit for any venue.
quote:
I liked that guy's comment "Nobody on a movie set stands there and thinks This is gonna look great on the DVD!"
I don't know about that. They have tons of people running around the sets with camcorders for the "extras" that nobody cares about on the DVD.
quote: Scott Jentsch
I didn't notice any sound problems with the HD feed
Did you just listen to your TV speakers or did you watch in in Dolby Digital?
Posted by Brett G. Sherris (Member # 3543) on 03-06-2006, 05:55 PM:
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
The reason all actors who had died this year were not recognized in the tribute was due to the fact that the presentation honored only those who passed away in 2005. Don Knotts, Darren McGavin & Dennis Weaver will be remembered next year along with the other members of the AMPAS who pass away in 2006.
If they only were listing show biz folk who died in 2005, why was Christopher Penn listed? He died in January 2006.
Posted by Christopher Seo (Member # 7) on 03-06-2006, 06:03 PM:
I had contemplated suicide if "Crash" won any awards, but... I suppose when you get down to it I just don't care enough about the Oscars.
I heard something about Ben Stiller appearing in a green full-body-hugging suit and saying something like, "Thanks to the magic of special effects, everyone at home sees only my floating head," when in fact he just looked like Ben Stiller in a green suit. Was that intentional-- a joke?
Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 03-06-2006, 06:53 PM:
The Ben Stiller bit was a joke.
Posted by Christopher Seo (Member # 7) on 03-06-2006, 07:10 PM:
Cool, thanks David.
If it had been a mistake, it would have been a pretty major one, and of course everyone here would be talking about it.
Posted by Brad Allen (Member # 470) on 03-07-2006, 12:29 AM:
Watched in DD here, and no sound problems.
Posted by Mike Schindler (Member # 1309) on 03-07-2006, 12:32 AM:
One award which was very well deserved was Robert Altman's. That guy knows how to make movies.
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 03-07-2006, 12:38 AM:
quote: Brad Allen
Watched in DD here, and no sound problems.
Must have been my local station, then. How do they do multichannel sound over the air? Do they send it to the affiliates uncompressed then it is up to the affiliate to compress it into AC3? I demand answers and I demand them NOW... or in a few minutes... or whenever is a good time.
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 03-07-2006, 12:44 AM:
I'm afraid, Joe, the answer is "Yes, all of the above."
There is a lot of variation and confusion and conversion back to analog to add the bugs (because digital bug-adding equipment is expensive for some reason).
This is from memory from discussions with an acquaintance who follows this a bit too closely, so I might be misremembering. Grain of salt.
--jhawk
Posted by Scott Jentsch (Member # 1681) on 03-07-2006, 11:41 AM:
quote: Joe Redifer
Did you just listen to your TV speakers or did you watch in in Dolby Digital?
No TV speakers for me. I had it playing on my home theater system in all of its HD/AC3 goodness. The feed was direct from my local OTA station here in Milwaukee, no cable/satellite retransmission for me!
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 03-07-2006, 12:28 PM:
I had no problems with the HD Dolby Digital sound. Watched it OTA on ABC owned WABC out of NYC. The only thing I did noticed was that some of the commercials were too loud out of the center channel.
What bugs me is that most commercials in HD are letterboxed into a 4x3 frame. Since they were clearly filmed for 16x9, why don't they just run them that way.
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