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Posted by Kurt Zupin (Member # 2751) on 06-16-2006, 06:25 AM:
 
Another member and myself have a website where past employees and current ones can post and meet and talk about stuff, much like Film-tech forums. Anyway a ex employee who is now working at another theater posted this and we have had a discussion on it. I would like some of the leading people in the industry to post on this, what do you think.

quote:
So, those of you who know me should be well aware by now that I'm somewhat of an arrogant prick. And what else would an arrogant prick do besides rub in everyone's faces how much better his job is compared to everyone elses.

I've just recently been promoted to projection (or "Prodge," as we cleverly call it) at the DELETED

Let me just walk you through my typical day at work.
I show up in my uniform (which consists on khakis and a maroon polo shirt), punch in, and then I usually waste about 15 minutes on the clock bullshitting at the concession stand with the other employees. Once I've had enough chatter, I walk to the elevator and take it to the projection booth. I check my proj. schedule and go start the movies that need starting. And then I usually sit at the projectionist desk and read a book, or listen to Guns N' Roses until the next movie starts. There's always atleast a 15 minute lull inbetween every film, which is more than enough time for me to smoke atleast 2 cigarettes down at the loading dock. The theatre is a three-floor theatre. Box office on the first. Theatres 1-7 on the second floor and 8-12 on the third. So that means we have 2 projection booths. We have a small perk for us projectionists on the third floor projection booth. Satellite TV. So if I get bored of reading or run out of cigarettes, you can typically find me on 3M watching That 70's Show or reruns of MacGuyver. You want to know what the kicker of this whole gig is? I get paid more to do less. Paradox? I think so. Am I complaining? Certainly not.

I just thought y'all should know about my fortune and glory.

After some back and forth between some of us, he came back and said this,

quote:
What they pay us for is to make sure there is no error before the movies start. We make sure that everything is perfect before that green light goes on and the film begins to roll. We make sure that there is no need to patrol the projection booth like an anal retentive bastard. We get it right the first time. This is the way it has been run since the place has opened, and that's the way it'll continue to run until the day the theater closes it's doors forever.
I would just like some opinions on this, if you wouldn't mind. Thank you in advance, if you would like to know more of what he said, let me know and I will repost it.

[ 06-16-2006, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]
 
Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-16-2006, 07:00 AM:
 
It could be worse. At least he's professional enough to go the loading bay when he wants to smoke, rather than puff away in the booth...
 
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 06-16-2006, 07:36 AM:
 
It sounds like he received his training from Carmike!
 
Posted by Jamie Glossop (Member # 2180) on 06-16-2006, 08:46 AM:
 
Sounds like the jobs just not for him,
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 06-16-2006, 11:02 AM:
 
I have the mental image of a brain wrap happening on one of the third floor projectors. Meanwhile, the "prodge" is out on the loading dock puffing away on cigarettes...oblivious.

Anyway, that fellow should enjoy his job while he still has it.

Video projection is going to eliminate a lot of the tasks that require dedicated projectionists in some theaters. No more film prints to build up, tear down, move from one platter to another, etc. The design on some of these systems is such that the movies, trailers, commercials, scheduling will all be downloaded via satellite. It's possible for these systems to run with little if any manual intervention at all. You'll still need at least one or two people on the property to take care of any emergencies in case they occur, but its likely the staffers doing that will be managers. The "prodge" will probably get the boot.
 
Posted by Paul Goulet (Member # 297) on 06-16-2006, 11:45 AM:
 
quote: Bobby Henderson
The design on some of these systems is such that the movies, trailers, commercials, scheduling will all be downloaded via satellite.
quote:
We have a small perk for us projectionists on the third floor projection booth. Satellite TV.
He probably thinks he will still have his job because in the Prodge booth he has Satellite TV [Big Grin]

I say print out his comments he made on the board and forward them to his new employer so they know how much he loves his job!
 
Posted by John Walsh (Member # 168) on 06-16-2006, 11:52 AM:
 
Since he doesn't mention anything like maintaince, I assume he's just a threader, not a projectionist. He probably thinks he's doing a better job than he actually is (".. It doesn't matter about being in frame; that's what this knob is for!") I also bet his pay rate is low. I agree with Bobby: enjoy it for the short time you'll have it.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 06-16-2006, 12:42 PM:
 
Kurt - you might want to change your thread title to something less vague, lest the moderators come down on your head.

As for the "prodge" - I agree, print out those comments and mail them to his supervisor. He's not an asset to the industry. (Just an "ass.")
 
Posted by Kurt Zupin (Member # 2751) on 06-16-2006, 01:06 PM:
 
Thanks for the heads up Mike.

This kid when he worked for us was a 3rd class projectionist, and hes no better now.

This is what he had to say after we voiced our opinion on the matter

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Well... this is what I have to say in my defense:

The theatre is NOT the old deleted. Everything in the booth is completely self-automated.

They DO NOT:
-Randomly brainwrap
-Fall out of focus
-Chew film
-Electrocute the help

They are designed to not be babysat. If something is wrong, it won't allow itself to start; if something goes wrong during mid-play... it shuts itself off. And even if I was dealing with the same projectors from the Caddy 5 (which I am not), there is only one projectionist on staff per shift. It'd be really hard to have one man babysit 12 projectors separated by 2 floors. Even if one of them did start to malfuction, there'd be no telling which one it would be until after I was notified that something was wrong. If we had three projectionists on staff for each shift (one to start all the movies, and two to act as patrolman for each floor) there's still no guarantee that they could catch a malfunction before it started to damage a print. It's a crap shoot, really.

What they pay us for is to make sure there is no error before the movies start. We make sure that everything is perfect before that green light goes on and the film begins to roll. We make sure that there is no need to patrol the projection booth like an anal retentive bastard. We get it right the first time. This is the way it has been run since the place has opened, and that's the way it'll continue to run until the day the theatre closes it's doors forever.

Believe it or not, I actually posed this question while I was being trained and Kurtis and I were having a cigarette after starting a movie.

"Kurtis, don't we need to stay in the projection booth?" I asked him, looking up at him with curious, blue eyes.

"Why?" he replied.

"Well, you know... in case something goes wrong?"

"Did it start okay?" he questioned me.

"Yeah."

"Well, then it'll end okay. That's the way the machines are designed." he stated with sheer confidence.

He takes a long drag off of his cigarette.

"But..." I inquire.

He interjects. "I've been doing this for 15 years. This is how it works here. We're not paid to be nannys. Enjoy your cigarette. It's part of your job now." he says with a smirk.

I smile with a big, toothy grin and I slowly fall into Kurtis' arms and get lost in his sparking green eyes.



[ 06-16-2006, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]
 
Posted by Christopher Meredith (Member # 3767) on 06-16-2006, 01:20 PM:
 
Yeah, that's all well and good until a splice breaks or a roller stops rolling. All modern equipment is "designed" to not be babysat. That doesn't mean it will end fine if it starts fine.

The one nice thing about Regal is the 4-step disciplinary process. It makes it so much easier to get thread monkeys like this out the door and ineligible for rehire.

It never ceases to amaze me how much work I am able to find to do in the booth when others are oblivious. I don't have to spend my shifts fixing brain wraps or getting pictures back on the screen for angry customers but I am still constantly busy. There's always something to clean, lubricate, adjust, tweak, tighten, fix, etc, etc, etc. As equipment gets older, it will require more looking after. Kinda hard to do that when you're glued to the TV or filling your lungs with tar out on the dock.
 
Posted by Tommie Evans (Member # 2674) on 06-16-2006, 01:40 PM:
 
quote:
there is only one projectionist on staff per shift. It'd be really hard to have one man babysit 12 projectors separated by 2 floors. Even if one of them did start to malfuction, there'd be no telling which one it would be until after I was notified that something was wrong.
Yeah! And when (not if) you run a film off a roller there'd be no telling which one it would be until after you were notified by customers on the next run! [Roll Eyes] [evil] [Eek!]
 
Posted by Andrew McCrea (Member # 674) on 06-16-2006, 05:05 PM:
 
What is Regal's 4-step disciplinary process?
 
Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 06-16-2006, 05:10 PM:
 
"I smile with a big, toothy grin and I slowly fall into Kurtis' arms and get lost in his sparking green eyes."

WTF?

"As the Platter Turns"? The new soap opera on cable?
 
Posted by Paul Goulet (Member # 297) on 06-16-2006, 05:52 PM:
 
quote: Dennis Benjamin
"I smile with a big, toothy grin and I slowly fall into Kurtis' arms and get lost in his sparking green eyes."

WTF?

Please tell me this is a female we are talking about... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kurt Zupin (Member # 2751) on 06-16-2006, 06:12 PM:
 
No this is a Man...well a boy I guess, not sure his sexual prefrence is his and his alone. I was saying WTF as well, he thinks hes a writer so I guess he feels when he is telling people of a conversation he has to add stuff like that, whatever.
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 06-16-2006, 06:13 PM:
 
Please tell me that ONLY assholes and jerks post smart-ass info for locations instead of actual cities as per the rules...
 
Posted by Paul Goulet (Member # 297) on 06-16-2006, 06:16 PM:
 
quote: Phil Hill
Please tell me that ONLY assholes and jerks post smart-ass info for locations instead of actual cities as per the rules...
You are correct sir, except in this case, you are an exception [Smile]
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 06-16-2006, 06:21 PM:
 
So Paul, which are you? I vote jerk! [Wink] [Razz]

You REALLY should get with the program and follow the "rules" instead of feeling you are above the rest of us...
 
Posted by Justin Gorka (Member # 3727) on 06-16-2006, 06:22 PM:
 
Sounds like some of the prodge's our company has assimilated!
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-16-2006, 06:41 PM:
 
Paul Goulet, feel free to email me regarding your location in order to be reinstated.
 
Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 06-16-2006, 06:50 PM:
 
quote: Phil Hill
Please tell me that ONLY assholes and jerks post smart-ass info for locations instead of actual cities as per the rules...
Hehe, sorry, I will be in China all of next month, I guess I should change my location. I didn't know there were rules!!!

Rick
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 06-16-2006, 06:53 PM:
 
Well Rick.. goodie for you... I guess YOU should expect a lockout/email from Brad as well since you also think you're better than the rest of us low-lifes... [Wink]

By the way aren't you special? I personally could give a shit less where you travel... been there done that ***ALL*** over the world! [beer] [Razz]

I get really tired of people that feel they MUST post some smart-ass answer to their location.
 
Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 06-16-2006, 06:57 PM:
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 06-16-2006, 06:59 PM:
 
Rick, still buds? [Smile]
 
Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 06-16-2006, 07:10 PM:
 
Phil, Always! [beer]

Rick
 
Posted by Steve Scott (Member # 630) on 06-17-2006, 03:44 PM:
 
Any theater with complacent staff will eventually feel their bottom line hit. The longer a projector goes uncleaned between shows, the more dirt will spread & the value of their "moviegoing experience" (besides the equipment they're gunking up) will greatly degrade.

Guys like this one are why I'm opposed the booth having any extra luxuries, regardless of configuration. These types only look at the place as a job & they try to find every way to make the job cater to their laziness. So you say you'll never catch a film problem until it's happened? [bs] to that! Put minimal effort into attempting to notice details within the place that is kind enough to pay your ass to "watch over" the hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment they've put into the people they're trying to keep as customers & see what it gets you. I guess when you're not clever enough to fix a two-minute wrap, then you've got no use trying to identify an hour-long wrap.

Some people have the heart to see you're working with art, people's visions & your patrons' paid experiences. The people who take pride & happiness out of doing the whole job for their patrons are what ensures you never talk about the theater "closing its doors forever" A presentation minded theater is much less likely to even joke about such a thing happening. As a person who's come into a recklessly "patrolled" megaplex booth before, I can say my pride was only magnified in knowing that we turned around so many peoples' experiences there that we heard from them daily on how nice the experience was.

Good management & respect for your artform. At least you have a job where you're ideally working with real art every day. Send that guy to a gas station.

I could easily agree with Mark, that's the attitude I know of Carmike people being trained into.
 
Posted by Jennifer Pan (Member # 2035) on 06-17-2006, 05:35 PM:
 
Oh dear, this boy sounds like an amazingly attractive fellow. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tommie Evans (Member # 2674) on 06-18-2006, 04:11 PM:
 
Producing a movie from nothing $150m and 1,300 people
Building a cinema to exhibit the movie $75million 850 people.

so $225 million dollars and 2150 peoples effort all boils down to: Showing the movie with perfect picture and sound

-$priceless$- 1 person

[Razz] [evil] pain is temporary - film is forever [Smile] [Cool]
 




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